2020 Rallying Thread (WRC, ERC and national rally)
Discussion
I thought this rally would be a bit lame but I really enjoyed today. Very cool seeing WRC cars on the Monza banking and driving the "wrong way" through Ascari chicane in dreadful weather.
Hoping Elfyn keeps its on the Mountain roads and stays in touch with Ogier. This will go down as a bit of an asterisk season but they all had the same opportunity.
Hoping Elfyn keeps its on the Mountain roads and stays in touch with Ogier. This will go down as a bit of an asterisk season but they all had the same opportunity.
Edited by weyland yutani on Friday 4th December 23:47
k!!Allyc85 said:
Ogier nearly went off despite being slowed. Stage 12 has been cancelled.
The cancellation of the next stage (due to weather) was a double whammy for Evans. Meant that Ogier could avoid the only other tricky stage and also those that had the right tyres (Lappi) didn't have the chance to use them. That really could have influenced the leaderboard and title race. Real shame.M5-911 said:
Scandinavians haven't seen a WRC title since 2003, who would have thought that.
Anyone from anywhere in the world not who isn't called Sebastien hasn't seen a WRC title since then! Edit. Ignore that, I forgot Ogier didn't win last year
Edited by DanielSan on Sunday 6th December 14:55
Really disappointed for Evans - didn't put a foot wrong, and went off in tricky conditions; and then showed his class by slowing Ogier down, when he didn't have to.
Ogier didn't have a faultless run either; he went off twice on Friday morning - but as usual got away with it. He really is a classless, and undeserving 'champion'. I bet he doesn't think it's worthless now, does he?
Ogier didn't have a faultless run either; he went off twice on Friday morning - but as usual got away with it. He really is a classless, and undeserving 'champion'. I bet he doesn't think it's worthless now, does he?
ArnageWRC said:
Really disappointed for Evans - didn't put a foot wrong, and went off in tricky conditions; and then showed his class by slowing Ogier down, when he didn't have to.
Ogier didn't have a faultless run either; he went off twice on Friday morning - but as usual got away with it. He really is a classless, and undeserving 'champion'. I bet he doesn't think it's worthless now, does he?
Ogier classless and undeserving... LolOgier didn't have a faultless run either; he went off twice on Friday morning - but as usual got away with it. He really is a classless, and undeserving 'champion'. I bet he doesn't think it's worthless now, does he?
Champions get away with mistakes because they generally don't make big mistakes like other would do under pressure.
7 titles, 3 differents manufacturer... Indeed classless.
Take your bitterness somewhere else.
By the way, Evans didn't slow down Ogier, it was his co-driver...
Gutted for the Evans, especially Gwyndaf, a true gent who I have fond memories of watching in the BRC in the days gone by
Btw you are taking his quote of out context, this rally was completely different to Mexico.
ArnageWRC said:
Ogier didn't have a faultless run either; he went off twice on Friday morning - but as usual got away with it. He really is a classless, and undeserving 'champion'. I bet he doesn't think it's worthless now, does he?
Look we are all disappointed but that post above is nothing short of distasteful, garbage and stinks of a bad loser, its good to see that Elfyn has tones more class than you have.Btw you are taking his quote of out context, this rally was completely different to Mexico.
I thought Seb said that Elfyn would have been a deserving champion, even before the weekend started?
It was gutting to see the title sliding away like it did. I switched on late to that stage, and the first thing I saw was his onboard camera showing the car in the trees. I basically stared at the screen, trying not to believe it was him! It has been one hell of season though, I always had him down as a team player like Sordo, and never a championship contender. He can be proud of what he has achieved.
Some good videos here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZGp1tYfmNE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCelU-uClbE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWOaFRwCu0Q
It was gutting to see the title sliding away like it did. I switched on late to that stage, and the first thing I saw was his onboard camera showing the car in the trees. I basically stared at the screen, trying not to believe it was him! It has been one hell of season though, I always had him down as a team player like Sordo, and never a championship contender. He can be proud of what he has achieved.
Some good videos here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZGp1tYfmNE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCelU-uClbE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWOaFRwCu0Q
greeny12 said:
Excellent vids - as always more engaging than the official coverage!
Agreed! Why is this? I've found all the "modern era" TV programmes almost unwatchable, they never capture the excitement or story of the event. Even the longer form daily shows on RedBull TV. They manage to barely scrape the surface of 3 days of rally footage and drama (unless its a big crash) and instead publish some trite One Show-style magazine programme.Yet I can watch the amateur footage for hours.
The live service was a bit of a letdown for me. Connection issues on some rallies and the coverage in general was poor.
It really boils my piss when we're forced to watch a car slowly crawl to a stop and see the drivers fidget with their helmets, masks, fixing their hair, sponsors hats before grumpily answering dull questions when the driver behind is tearing it through the stage.
Their only pundit is a former driver I've never heard of and the main commentator sounds like she's hosting a coffee morning, far too nice. I'd rather listen to Crofty aggravate my tinnitus.
It really boils my piss when we're forced to watch a car slowly crawl to a stop and see the drivers fidget with their helmets, masks, fixing their hair, sponsors hats before grumpily answering dull questions when the driver behind is tearing it through the stage.
Their only pundit is a former driver I've never heard of and the main commentator sounds like she's hosting a coffee morning, far too nice. I'd rather listen to Crofty aggravate my tinnitus.
giveitfish said:
Agreed! Why is this? I've found all the "modern era" TV programmes almost unwatchable, they never capture the excitement or story of the event. Even the longer form daily shows on RedBull TV. They manage to barely scrape the surface of 3 days of rally footage and drama (unless its a big crash) and instead publish some trite One Show-style magazine programme.
Yet I can watch the amateur footage for hours.
A big factor for me is the immediacy of having the guy filming right beside the road, at ground level. Of course it's expensive to have fixed TV-quality cameramen, so if you look at "normal" stages (i.e. not superspecials) there may be one or two cameras on the roadside and everything else is helicopter or onboard. The heli shots just kill the feeling of speed, while the onboards tend to get overused so even they feel a bit boring after a while. The only time you get a true idea of the sheer speed these guys are going at - and the talent they deploy - is when you watch the YouTube vids like the ones linked above.Yet I can watch the amateur footage for hours.
I agree with the other poster that the end-stage doorstepping interviews are such a waste of time, especially with the current crop of drivers who are tight-lipped to say the least.
I still think there should be a way to incorporate the keen amateurs' footage in a proper end-of-day highlights show, but in the meantime thank goodness for them and the work they do!
Really enjoyed the rally.
I haven't kept up with much of this years WRC but really liked this round. It would have been fantastic if there had been fans allowed.
Imagine Ogier arriving to the finish control with thousands of fans surrounding him to celebrate the world title instead of the usual where the driver finishes some stage in the middle of nowhere with only a few marshals and photographers.
I think the rally showed up some of the drivers, a lot seemed to be relying the power of the cars to save them from their mistakes and the cars seem to be very forgiving. However, the extremely slippery conditions caught out lots of them as they couldn't use the power to save themselves, that's why I think the likes of the WRC2 cars were able to keep up.
Pity about Evans, it would have been nice to see someone new in this year as well!
I haven't kept up with much of this years WRC but really liked this round. It would have been fantastic if there had been fans allowed.
Imagine Ogier arriving to the finish control with thousands of fans surrounding him to celebrate the world title instead of the usual where the driver finishes some stage in the middle of nowhere with only a few marshals and photographers.
I think the rally showed up some of the drivers, a lot seemed to be relying the power of the cars to save them from their mistakes and the cars seem to be very forgiving. However, the extremely slippery conditions caught out lots of them as they couldn't use the power to save themselves, that's why I think the likes of the WRC2 cars were able to keep up.
Pity about Evans, it would have been nice to see someone new in this year as well!
Rally Sweden cancelled and Monte having to adjust the itinerary to fit in with the curfew in France. It's going to be another tough season for organisers in the Wrc!!
On a positive note, have another brilliant video..
https://youtu.be/quiZYKbA6XM
On a positive note, have another brilliant video..
https://youtu.be/quiZYKbA6XM
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