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mat205125 said:
Robmarriott said:
Can we count hillclimb stuff?
We should do!Hill Climb is the birth place of motorsport, and what we know as time attack today
Time Attack
On a circuit, other cars on track, run off areas, multiple laps
hillclimb
On a course, no other cars, one chance, zero runoff, much bigger balls
Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 8th August 21:50
pablo said:
Hill climbing and time attack are totally different? You may think it’s the same thing but I can assure you it is not.
Time Attack
On a circuit, other cars on track, run off areas, multiple laps
hillclimb
On a course, no other cars, one chance, zero runoff, much bigger balls
God forbid someone posts something on the internet, without being immediately met by the attack of the pedantic semantics !!Time Attack
On a circuit, other cars on track, run off areas, multiple laps
hillclimb
On a course, no other cars, one chance, zero runoff, much bigger balls
Edited by pablo on Monday 8th August 21:50
mat205125 said:
pablo said:
Hill climbing and time attack are totally different? You may think it’s the same thing but I can assure you it is not.
Time Attack
On a circuit, other cars on track, run off areas, multiple laps
hillclimb
On a course, no other cars, one chance, zero runoff, much bigger balls
God forbid someone posts something on the internet, without being immediately met by the attack of the pedantic semantics !!Time Attack
On a circuit, other cars on track, run off areas, multiple laps
hillclimb
On a course, no other cars, one chance, zero runoff, much bigger balls
Edited by pablo on Monday 8th August 21:50
coppice said:
mat205125 said:
pablo said:
Hill climbing and time attack are totally different? You may think it’s the same thing but I can assure you it is not.
Time Attack
On a circuit, other cars on track, run off areas, multiple laps
hillclimb
On a course, no other cars, one chance, zero runoff, much bigger balls
God forbid someone posts something on the internet, without being immediately met by the attack of the pedantic semantics !!Time Attack
On a circuit, other cars on track, run off areas, multiple laps
hillclimb
On a course, no other cars, one chance, zero runoff, much bigger balls
Edited by pablo on Monday 8th August 21:50
Both against the clock, rather than battling for positions
Both with the best time across a number of runs deciding the victor
Both in cars
Both on planet earth, using round wheels
Semantics of standing starts, run-offs, testicle dimensions etc is simply a deliberately obtuse and pedantic response to a throw away comment.
Semantics matter though, with the criteria you have used you could say hillclimbing is the root of all time trial events when they are more independent rather than descended from.
I was expecting you to tell me that Time Attack originated from modders/ tuners taking their racing off the Togue mountain roads onto the race track (not saying that is the history, no idea)
I was expecting you to tell me that Time Attack originated from modders/ tuners taking their racing off the Togue mountain roads onto the race track (not saying that is the history, no idea)
Time Attack , speed hillclimbs and sprints are separate disciplines , with some commonalities .But the terms are not interchangeable . Time Attack , as it s racy name hints , is a modern interloper . I have seen it only once and won't rush back as it seemed to be largely powered by its own hype . I saw a small field of largely unremarkable cars , mainly JDM jobs , whose look was more Fast and Furious than Adrian Newey . Driving varied from very competent to utterly clueless and despite the hysterical claims about 800 and 900bhp the very fastest cars lapped a little faster than BTCC cars with less than 50 % of the claimed TA power . Big crowd , perhaps attracted by Guy Martin?
There are very few true Time Attack cars in this country, the biggest event worldwide is WTAC in Australia, this attracts the very best cars like Under Suzuki and the like, those cars are amazing, but are literally one of a kind specials of the kind you would not find anywhere else. But as a piece of engineering they are spectacular and what man can do in a car with very few rules, when you consider they have to I think use treaded tyres still!!
It basically comes from Tsukuba and the time attack series there that was every year or so I think in cold time of the year for better engine power!, where various people including guys like HKS kept trying to beat lap records at Tsukuba, Suzuki developed an S15 from basic to crazy in that time, but the cars that broke records have gone into legend in Japan, various HKS Lancers and the like, it was great engineering and a showcase for their wares.
I like the idea, it is an interesting concept
But it has absolutely nothing to do with hillclimbing whatsoever.
It basically comes from Tsukuba and the time attack series there that was every year or so I think in cold time of the year for better engine power!, where various people including guys like HKS kept trying to beat lap records at Tsukuba, Suzuki developed an S15 from basic to crazy in that time, but the cars that broke records have gone into legend in Japan, various HKS Lancers and the like, it was great engineering and a showcase for their wares.
I like the idea, it is an interesting concept
But it has absolutely nothing to do with hillclimbing whatsoever.
I'm considering spectating at Shelsley Walsh this weekend for the British Hillclimbing Championship as I have never been to a hill climb event before. Is there a likelihood of bonkers race cars participating?
Another thing about hillclimbing: is there a competitive event held on public roads? I've heard of the Shere Hillclimbing but that's non-competitive. Sorry to go off topic!
Another thing about hillclimbing: is there a competitive event held on public roads? I've heard of the Shere Hillclimbing but that's non-competitive. Sorry to go off topic!
entropy said:
I'm considering spectating at Shelsley Walsh this weekend for the British Hillclimbing Championship as I have never been to a hill climb event before. Is there a likelihood of bonkers race cars participating?
Another thing about hillclimbing: is there a competitive event held on public roads? I've heard of the Shere Hillclimbing but that's non-competitive. Sorry to go off topic!
I don’t know of any road based ones in the U.K. IOM May still do them? Another thing about hillclimbing: is there a competitive event held on public roads? I've heard of the Shere Hillclimbing but that's non-competitive. Sorry to go off topic!
They are popular on the continent though, have a search on YouTube for European hillclimb championship or hillclimb monsters.
I’d always fancied the idea of one up Cheddar Gorge
gazza285 said:
Zad said:
.AFAIK, a Merlin is a Meteor with an appropriate supercharger.
Looking at the history of the Meteor it is the other way round, it is a Merlin without the supercharger, many Meteors were built using engines recovered from crashed or damaged aircraft.entropy said:
I'm considering spectating at Shelsley Walsh this weekend for the British Hillclimbing Championship as I have never been to a hill climb event before. Is there a likelihood of bonkers race cars participating?
Another thing about hillclimbing: is there a competitive event held on public roads? I've heard of the Shere Hillclimbing but that's non-competitive. Sorry to go off topic!
Yes, the bonkers race cars will be at Shelsley at the weekend Another thing about hillclimbing: is there a competitive event held on public roads? I've heard of the Shere Hillclimbing but that's non-competitive. Sorry to go off topic!
, the fastest cars in British Motorsport, that go round corners.Yes, there are a number of closed road hillclimbs in the UK, the Manx Classic is probably the best known, uses sections of the TT course, 3 different hills in 3 days. There are others, Waterside Bay and the Wolfsrone Hillclimb in Yorkshire spring to mind.
mat205125 said:
coppice said:
mat205125 said:
pablo said:
Hill climbing and time attack are totally different? You may think it’s the same thing but I can assure you it is not.
Time Attack
On a circuit, other cars on track, run off areas, multiple laps
hillclimb
On a course, no other cars, one chance, zero runoff, much bigger balls
God forbid someone posts something on the internet, without being immediately met by the attack of the pedantic semantics !!Time Attack
On a circuit, other cars on track, run off areas, multiple laps
hillclimb
On a course, no other cars, one chance, zero runoff, much bigger balls
Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 8th August 21:50
Both against the clock, rather than battling for position
Both with the best time across a number of runs deciding the victor
Both in cars
Both on planet earth, using round wheels
Semantics of standing starts, run-offs, testicle dimensions etc is simply a deliberately obtuse and pedantic response to a throw away comment.
entropy said:
I'm considering spectating at Shelsley Walsh this weekend for the British Hillclimbing Championship as I have never been to a hill climb event before. Is there a likelihood of bonkers race cars participating?
Another thing about hillclimbing: is there a competitive event held on public roads? I've heard of the Shere Hillclimbing but that's non-competitive. Sorry to go off topic!
You will get up close (far closer than any race circuit ) to single seaters with 600 bhp or more, lots of aero , big slicks and breathtaking performance which leaves any tin top or supercar looking feeble. Enjoy. Another thing about hillclimbing: is there a competitive event held on public roads? I've heard of the Shere Hillclimbing but that's non-competitive. Sorry to go off topic!
Max_Torque said:
P5BNij said:
Lovely video short by Stefan Marjoram here:
https://vimeo.com/113158655
The juxtaposition between the slow, quiet, contamplative restoration process and the first engine fire is, well, watch it to see!
But also there was something that looked very similar to the car you pictured, could it be the same?
Was an incredible evening, i recorded the start up procedure and noise for the record holder, it was imense!
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