Restart on 29 March?

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Dynion Araf Uchaf

4,454 posts

223 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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LucyP said:
You can travel and stay over for work. If you are at a circuit working as an official or a marshal, then it's work.
Great, but who would they be Marshall’s for? There are very few competitors who could classify a club race meet as work. All dressed up nowhere to go springs to mind

Nampahc Niloc

910 posts

78 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
LucyP said:
You can travel and stay over for work. If you are at a circuit working as an official or a marshal, then it's work.
Great, but who would they be Marshall’s for? There are very few competitors who could classify a club race meet as work. All dressed up nowhere to go springs to mind
The support teams could also travel, as they will be working.

So we will have a lot of marshals around the circuit and a paddock full of support teams.

Edited by Nampahc Niloc on Wednesday 24th February 15:20

Skylinecrazy

13,986 posts

194 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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You can camp I believe. Only reason hotels aren’t allowed is due to multiple people in hotel lobby’s etc.

Nampahc Niloc

910 posts

78 months

Wednesday 24th February 2021
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Skylinecrazy said:
You can camp I believe. Only reason hotels aren’t allowed is due to multiple people in hotel lobby’s etc.
Holiday Lets won’t reopen until 12th April, so it isn’t anything to do with public areas. Not sure about camping though.

LucyP

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1,699 posts

59 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
Great, but who would they be Marshall’s for? There are very few competitors who could classify a club race meet as work. All dressed up nowhere to go springs to mind
I suggest you speak to BARC and MSVR. They will tell you that they, and everyone wants to get going. Club racing will start on 29 March, behind closed doors. The race doesn't have to be work for the competitors. Organised sport is allowed from 29 March and a race meeting is organised sport, so the competitors can attend. It is work for marshals, officials and medics, and they can (and will attend) too.

mcdjl

5,446 posts

195 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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LucyP said:
I suggest you speak to BARC and MSVR. They will tell you that they, and everyone wants to get going. Club racing will start on 29 March, behind closed doors. The race doesn't have to be work for the competitors. Organised sport is allowed from 29 March and a race meeting is organised sport, so the competitors can attend. It is work for marshals, officials and medics, and they can (and will attend) too.
The only reason i won't be marshalling is seeing friends and family. Ironic really seeing as mixing (in the loosest sense) with people from all over will be allowed but visiting people won't be.

Dynion Araf Uchaf

4,454 posts

223 months

Thursday 25th February 2021
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LucyP said:
Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
Great, but who would they be Marshall’s for? There are very few competitors who could classify a club race meet as work. All dressed up nowhere to go springs to mind
I suggest you speak to BARC and MSVR. They will tell you that they, and everyone wants to get going. Club racing will start on 29 March, behind closed doors. The race doesn't have to be work for the competitors. Organised sport is allowed from 29 March and a race meeting is organised sport, so the competitors can attend. It is work for marshals, officials and medics, and they can (and will attend) too.
You appear to be missing the point(again). Specifically with the 750 race meet at Cadwell most competitors will have to travel some distance to get there, meaning that in normal circumstances they would wish to stay over night. However this is only legally possible if they stay over in self contained accommodation. So approx 80 or so competitors within the 750mc have this option. At the moment I can’t compete at cadwell as it is way to far for me to travel to on the day. I won’t be sleeping in a tent because too cold and also not specifically allowed. I won’t be the only one in this situation. If the race were at Silverstone I’d have no problem. So yes Marshals etc can attend, some competitors may be able to attend if they have a motor home and some will live close enough to commute on the day. But as most of the racing community are south east based I think Cadwell may well not be viable and certainly not profitable if it goes ahead and the MSV are happy to allow people to camp when the guidance is at least unclear

Drabbesttunic

1,251 posts

40 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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mcdjl said:
The only reason i won't be marshalling is seeing friends and family. Ironic really seeing as mixing (in the loosest sense) with people from all over will be allowed but visiting people won't be.
I understand where you're coming from, my old dear has the same stance regarding church and why should she go when she can't see family, she hasn't been because of this but I see it as cutting off your nose to spite your face as she loves church but is doing it off principle.

mcdjl

5,446 posts

195 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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Drabbesttunic said:
I understand where you're coming from, my old dear has the same stance regarding church and why should she go when she can't see family, she hasn't been because of this but I see it as cutting off your nose to spite your face as she loves church but is doing it off principle.
If the government says I can do it, I'm doing it. I might be stretching what they say I can do anyway.
I meant that seeing friends/ family will be first priority, not Motorsport. Though seeing as I'll be allowed to play cars long before I can drive the 150 miles to see my parents thats less of an issue than it might be.

Drabbesttunic

1,251 posts

40 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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mcdjl said:
Drabbesttunic said:
I understand where you're coming from, my old dear has the same stance regarding church and why should she go when she can't see family, she hasn't been because of this but I see it as cutting off your nose to spite your face as she loves church but is doing it off principle.
If the government says I can do it, I'm doing it. I might be stretching what they say I can do anyway.
I meant that seeing friends/ family will be first priority, not Motorsport. Though seeing as I'll be allowed to play cars long before I can drive the 150 miles to see my parents thats less of an issue than it might be.
Gotcha, I didnt mean it disrespectfully, just for us to start doing the things we love and that keep us sane!

LucyP

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1,699 posts

59 months

Sunday 28th February 2021
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Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
You appear to be missing the point(again). Specifically with the 750 race meet at Cadwell most competitors will have to travel some distance to get there, meaning that in normal circumstances they would wish to stay over night. However this is only legally possible if they stay over in self contained accommodation. So approx 80 or so competitors within the 750mc have this option. At the moment I can’t compete at cadwell as it is way to far for me to travel to on the day. I won’t be sleeping in a tent because too cold and also not specifically allowed. I won’t be the only one in this situation. If the race were at Silverstone I’d have no problem. So yes Marshals etc can attend, some competitors may be able to attend if they have a motor home and some will live close enough to commute on the day. But as most of the racing community are south east based I think Cadwell may well not be viable and certainly not profitable if it goes ahead and the MSV are happy to allow people to camp when the guidance is at least unclear
I think you have proved my point! It will be going ahead! Look on the 750MC site for the entry forms! You cannot do Cadwell, but you can do Silverstone, which are the first 2 on the calendar. Both weekends will be going ahead, because some people can do one or both of them, just like you!

Nampahc Niloc

910 posts

78 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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LucyP said:
Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
You appear to be missing the point(again). Specifically with the 750 race meet at Cadwell most competitors will have to travel some distance to get there, meaning that in normal circumstances they would wish to stay over night. However this is only legally possible if they stay over in self contained accommodation. So approx 80 or so competitors within the 750mc have this option. At the moment I can’t compete at cadwell as it is way to far for me to travel to on the day. I won’t be sleeping in a tent because too cold and also not specifically allowed. I won’t be the only one in this situation. If the race were at Silverstone I’d have no problem. So yes Marshals etc can attend, some competitors may be able to attend if they have a motor home and some will live close enough to commute on the day. But as most of the racing community are south east based I think Cadwell may well not be viable and certainly not profitable if it goes ahead and the MSV are happy to allow people to camp when the guidance is at least unclear
I think you have proved my point! It will be going ahead! Look on the 750MC site for the entry forms! You cannot do Cadwell, but you can do Silverstone, which are the first 2 on the calendar. Both weekends will be going ahead, because some people can do one or both of them, just like you!
They’ll only go ahead if enough people can attend. “Some people” is not enough for a viable weekend. The BRSCC, for example, have made a holding statement while they investigate the viability of their early rounds.

Skylinecrazy

13,986 posts

194 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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HSCC have just confirmed that camping is allied at their Snetterton meeting from the 17th April. I doubt many will adhere to ‘don’t drive too far’ ..

I’m with a car at Harewood on the 12th April, we are going from the West Midlands. If you’re competing at an event it may as well be exempt..

df76

3,630 posts

278 months

Monday 1st March 2021
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Castle Combe has confirmed that the HRDC has pulled out of their Easter meeting. Will run double headers of their "local" series instead to fill the gaps. Sounds pretty sensible given the circumstance.

I suspect that Caterham are struggling to see how it's possible to run their two day BRSCC meeting at Cadwell the following weekend. It's under review.

WickerBill

905 posts

48 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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LucyP said:
The 29 March restart is behind closed doors. The issue is when spectators will be allowed, and it isn't whether Corona knows the difference between an "attraction" and and "event", it's how the Government defines them. I think Alton Towers and Chester Zoo are "attractions" and race meetings at Silverstone and Cadwell Park are "events". As another person has said, since MSVR have removed tickets from sale prior to 17 May, they clearly agree with my interpretation.
Well there we have it, you were wrong. MSV just announced spectators from mid April. So clearly they agree with my interpretation not yours.

Hope that humble pie tastes nice?! :-D

andy97

4,703 posts

222 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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BRSCC have cancelled all their meetings in April whilst BARC has cancelled Croft on 10 April.
So far CSCC is due to go ahead at Oulton Park on 10 April but no spectators.

Drumroll

3,756 posts

120 months

Friday 5th March 2021
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The 2 rallies at Cadwell at the begining of April have also been cancelled.

Yazza54

18,508 posts

181 months

Sunday 7th March 2021
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Still waiting on details of what's happening with our opening 750mc round at sillystone. If there's no camping/overnighters then it'll stop many from attending. It would also be nice to have an opportunity to actually test the car.....

Nampahc Niloc

910 posts

78 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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LucyP said:
I think you have proved my point! It will be going ahead! Look on the 750MC site for the entry forms! You cannot do Cadwell, but you can do Silverstone, which are the first 2 on the calendar. Both weekends will be going ahead, because some people can do one or both of them, just like you!
Just received the following by email:

750MC said:
After extensive discussion the 750 Motor Club and Silverstone Circuit have taken the decision to postpone the Club’s opening race meeting, moving the event by three weeks from the 3rd/4th April to the 24th/25th of April.

The Club and circuit have made this decision together after careful consideration of all the relevant information and guidance, which combined with Motorsport UK’s decision to restrict clubs to single day permits meant running a satisfactory two-day event as originally planned would be extremely difficult.
You really should learn the difference between your opinion and proof.

mcdjl

5,446 posts

195 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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Nampahc Niloc said:
LucyP said:
I think you have proved my point! It will be going ahead! Look on the 750MC site for the entry forms! You cannot do Cadwell, but you can do Silverstone, which are the first 2 on the calendar. Both weekends will be going ahead, because some people can do one or both of them, just like you!
Just received the following by email:

750MC said:
After extensive discussion the 750 Motor Club and Silverstone Circuit have taken the decision to postpone the Club’s opening race meeting, moving the event by three weeks from the 3rd/4th April to the 24th/25th of April.

The Club and circuit have made this decision together after careful consideration of all the relevant information and guidance, which combined with Motorsport UK’s decision to restrict clubs to single day permits meant running a satisfactory two-day event as originally planned would be extremely difficult.
You really should learn the difference between your opinion and proof.
Easter Sat/Sun is (was) a brave move for an attempted first race weekend given people will want to do family stuff. However Donnington seem to be aiming for fri/sat (MSVR) and mon (750MC) meets so its clearly a very mixed situation.