2022 Rallying Thread (WRC, ERC and national rally)

2022 Rallying Thread (WRC, ERC and national rally)

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boxedin

1,220 posts

107 months

Friday 2nd September
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Does anyone know if the Stage Information / Routes for the Cambrian Rally next month is available anywhere?

The web site is empty for me:
https://cambrianrally.co.uk/spectators/stage-infor...

All I can find is a PDF showing a single stage route aimed at residents - all 25 of them ;-) https://cambrianrally.co.uk/content/downloads/PR-L...

Thanks.

thepawbroon

927 posts

165 months

Friday 2nd September
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boxedin said:
Does anyone know if the Stage Information / Routes for the Cambrian Rally next month is available anywhere?

The web site is empty for me:
https://cambrianrally.co.uk/spectators/stage-infor...

All I can find is a PDF showing a single stage route aimed at residents - all 25 of them ;-) https://cambrianrally.co.uk/content/downloads/PR-L...

Thanks.
The stage names are in here, I'm sure spectator info will come a week or so ahead of the event.

A Friday night closed road stage looks great!


https://www.ewrc-results.com/timetable/73465-visit...



ArnageWRC

1,692 posts

140 months

Friday 2nd September
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The Cambrian Rally organisers are one of many events that use the Sportity app to upload info, including spectator info closer to the event. It's worth downloading it, and you'll get notifications of any updates.

boxedin

1,220 posts

107 months

Saturday 3rd September
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Thanks. I'll try the Sportify app and keep an eye on the website.

ArnageWRC

1,692 posts

140 months

Sunday 4th September
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A decent weekend of rallying in the UK;

BTRDA Woodpecker Stages Rally in Ludlow, followed by the BRC Rali Ceredigion.

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3,285 posts

101 months

Sunday 4th September
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ArnageWRC said:
A decent weekend of rallying in the UK;

BTRDA Woodpecker Stages Rally in Ludlow, followed by the BRC Rali Ceredigion.
From what I have been hearing Rali Ceredigion has had a high attrition rate.

Hoping to catch up with some of the footage later on tonight.

ArnageWRC

1,692 posts

140 months

Monday 5th September
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Followed it on the BRC, the event's & Special Stage Facebook pages; it looked like a great event. Well organised, town centre stages to start the event, a few night stages. And on tough, but narrow roads - very little room for mistakes.....

One hopes the event can grow, it has all the ingredients to do so.

https://terseries.com/en/media/video/1/

Edited by ArnageWRC on Monday 5th September 10:35

thepawbroon

927 posts

165 months

Tuesday 6th September
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ArnageWRC said:
Followed it on the BRC, the event's & Special Stage Facebook pages; it looked like a great event. Well organised, town centre stages to start the event, a few night stages. And on tough, but narrow roads - very little room for mistakes.....

One hopes the event can grow, it has all the ingredients to do so.

https://terseries.com/en/media/video/1/

Edited by ArnageWRC on Monday 5th September 10:35
That is roughly what I said when I visited in 2019 - "A European Championship event in waiting". To be completely honest, it has the best chance out of all the rallies in GB to reach that level.

LukeBrown66

2,822 posts

27 months

Tuesday 6th September
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Do you not think though that with a more international event the orgs might have to jump through a few more hoops which might make things a little more tricky, possibly clearly, but tricky still, WRC and ERC are a very different level in terms of GFIA safety to now.

thepawbroon

927 posts

165 months

Tuesday 6th September
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LukeBrown66 said:
Do you not think though that with a more international event the orgs might have to jump through a few more hoops which might make things a little more tricky, possibly clearly, but tricky still, WRC and ERC are a very different level in terms of GFIA safety to now.
From an organisational point of view, the 2022 event covered all the FIA International requirements and ran to combined International and MSUK National permits. It was also the first rally in UK to reach FIA Environmental Accreditation. It has 2 FIA appointed Stewards and an FIA observer. I think it'll already be at suitable International standards for Safety and Organisation.

From what I can see of the existing ERC rounds, the main differences seem to be event length and maybe a schedule tweak to assist live TV coverage. So the "promotion side" might have to change a little.

The ERC has been stagnant for a while, but as you know has recently come under the WRC promotor's remit. So I would imagine some changes are afoot. The Rali Ceredigion certainly seemed to attract plenty of local sponsorship, including the county council. Personally, I can see them (the council) supporting a move to extend the event and cover perhaps a larger area, there's no shortage of suitable roads!

I'm very interested to see how this pans out.

ArnageWRC

1,692 posts

140 months

Tuesday 6th September
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Agree - it's got ERC all over it; just needs a full Saturday, and there's plenty of roads to use. Add in the Friday night town stage. Just needs extra funding for the step up. However, if that doesn't happen, it's a great, challenging BRC event.

LukeBrown66

2,822 posts

27 months

Tuesday 6th September
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I guess the stumbling block might then be hosting costs, I doubt they would be massively high for an ERC event, but I dont know, Ypres obviously went from ERC for years to WRC, as did Estonia I think, but maybe that extra can be found from the council and sponsors, an event like this would bring in visitors and local economy would benefit, but it might cost a fair bit more I would guess to be a part of a series.

fttm

2,958 posts

116 months

Thursday 8th September
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Question I 've been meaning to ask for a long time , just had an onboard YT clip pop up of Andrew Nesbitt during his Cuisine De France glory days in the Subaru , can anybody on here decipher the notes from James O'Brian ? 22s/24s wtf does that all mean , seams a very complicated system ? Drove and co-drove for years but I'm at a loss lol

Dynion Araf Uchaf

3,542 posts

204 months

Thursday 8th September
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fttm said:
Question I 've been meaning to ask for a long time , just had an onboard YT clip pop up of Andrew Nesbitt during his Cuisine De France glory days in the Subaru , can anybody on here decipher the notes from James O'Brian ? 22s/24s wtf does that all mean , seams a very complicated system ? Drove and co-drove for years but I'm at a loss lol
link would help

LukeBrown66

2,822 posts

27 months

Thursday 8th September
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I think it was something to do with the fact that Nesbitt had a hearing issue and this was a way around that to make certain notes clearer, it was obviously not a problem for the crew as they were pretty dominant at the time!

And the onboards are hilarious "STOP""

Polly Grigora

10,455 posts

90 months

Thursday 8th September
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Edited by Polly Grigora on Thursday 8th September 11:45

mfmman

1,506 posts

164 months

Thursday 8th September
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LukeBrown66 said:
I think it was something to do with the fact that Nesbitt had a hearing issue and this was a way around that to make certain notes clearer, it was obviously not a problem for the crew as they were pretty dominant at the time!

And the onboards are hilarious "STOP""
Andrew Nesbitt was lightning fast.

A guy I used to know did the Rally of the Lakes in the late 80s in what was a new at the time Group N Sierra Cosworth. At a stage start Mr Nesbitt was behind him in a Pinto engined Mk2. He came up and asked 'We are going pretty well. When we catch you, you will pull over won't you?" Cheeky Sod, thought my mate 'when we catch you', let's see. About four miles into the stage, he could see some telltale headlights in his mirror laugh They went past over a humpback bridge eek



acer12

892 posts

155 months

Thursday 8th September
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Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
link would help
good watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB0FrlQvRoI

LukeBrown66

2,822 posts

27 months

Thursday 8th September
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I could tell you a similar story about a friend of mines cousin who was a bit of a whizz in the Dukeries forests in a Sunbeam so had a relatively high seeding, it was when I think Peugeot challenge was about and Burns was being a bit of an upstart, full of himself (with good reason in the end but back then pah) asked this friend to be aware he might catch him, my mates friend had great delight beating him on just about every stage to a second in class and top 2o finish!!

ArnageWRC

1,692 posts

140 months

Saturday 10th September
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Acropolis Rally, and after a promising first day, it's starting to unravel for M-Sport - and Rovanpera has got issues.