2022 Rallying Thread (WRC, ERC and national rally)

[GravelBen]

Seems like half the field are having issues!

[confucuis]

Greensmith out on that stage with something mechanical stopped 3 k into that stage.

Loubet crashed on a hairpin on the last few ks and lost 40+ to the leaders, said he has no breaks.

The Hyundai's all kept going at the end and didn't wait for the interviews, they all had some sort of issue with over heating of the battery

Been had a great time for starting first on the road, only 13 off Neuville who was fastest, he was faster than loubet before the off even though he started first on the road.


After all the joy of yesterday, it's all gone to ste for msport

[greeny12]

So... should Hyundai have swapped drivers to give Tanak maximum points catch-up on Rovanpera?

Or is Kalle so far ahead it wouldn't matter and so better to not rock the boat?

[ArnageWRC]

The title is still not decided, and whilst it's a long shot, you take every point possible; which means swapping positions. We've seen it on other occasions. It's a massive sign of weak management by Hyundai that they didn't do this - was it so they didn't upset Neuville?

Ferrari rightly takes flack for their continual 'cock ups' - this is right up there.

[GravelBen]

ArnageWRC said:

The title is still not decided, and whilst it's a long shot, you take every point possible; which means swapping positions. We've seen it on other occasions. It's a massive sign of weak management by Hyundai that they didn't do this - was it so they didn't upset Neuville?

I assume so, because they still used orders to stop Tanak and Neuville fighting for the win (which to be fair would have risked one or both of them throwing it away). But the decision for them to hold position instead of swapping seems to have been done to keep Neuville happy / maybe give him a confidence boost.

Personally I think the sooner Hyundai move on from their Neuville-centredness and give other drivers the same support, the better they will do.

[ArnageWRC]

Yes, he's had enough time to prove whether he's a champion - and always falls short. He's capable of fabulous drives, but also has drives when he does something stupid, and goes off. 2017 is a perfect example; in control of the first two events - and late mistakes cost him - and probably the title.

[confucuis]

Ya I think it was the wrong decision. Yes Tanak is unlikely to catch Rovenpera but you have to at least give him the best chance possible to do so!

Some of Tanaks driving this weekend was incredible to watch. So aggressive and fast. Probably fastest most exciting rallying I've ever seen.

Again, really enjoyed the WRC+ coverage, great to see all the stages live. Also really like the Dirtfish videos on Youtube, Colin Clarke is their onsite journalist which a daily round up of action and driver interviews (though they don't seem to want to mention Breen at all to my chagrin.)

[Polly Grigora]

Swapping drivers, what?

When is a sport no longer a sport?

[Beethree]

confucuis said:

Ya I think it was the wrong decision. Yes Tanak is unlikely to catch Rovenpera but you have to at least give him the best chance possible to do so!

Some of Tanaks driving this weekend was incredible to watch. So aggressive and fast. Probably fastest most exciting rallying I've ever seen.

Again, really enjoyed the WRC+ coverage, great to see all the stages live. Also really like the Dirtfish videos on Youtube, Colin Clarke is their onsite journalist which a daily round up of action and driver interviews (though they don't seem to want to mention Breen at all to my chagrin.)

I’ve found the Dirtfish coverage to be excellent this year, as someone who won’t pay for WRC+.
They’re ARA coverage has also been really good.

[Dynion Araf Uchaf]

Beethree said:

I’ve found the Dirtfish coverage to be excellent this year, as someone who won’t pay for WRC+.
They’re ARA coverage has also been really good.

is this the same Dirtfish coverage that is 99% talking heads. I.e. no actual action of the cars? And whilst CC is a rally enthusiasts his 'mouth full of spittle' delivery is starting to grate. (He sounds like a Scottish Sheriff JW Pepper in Live and let Die) munching on a Skoal Bandit.

[LukeBrown66]

I struggle with Mr Evans unfortunately, the man was not very kind to me in a previous life!!

I like what Dirtfish are doing, they seem to have some good access, but Clark is a bit opinionated to be a neutral!

But they do some good stuff all round, in many forms of pff road stuff and that has to be hoped to continue

[ArnageWRC]

Polly Grigora said:

Swapping drivers, what?

When is a sport no longer a sport?

It has happened plenty of times......you must be new around here.

[GravelBen]

Polly Grigora said:

Swapping drivers, what?

When is a sport no longer a sport?

WRC is a team sport, and most team sports involve letting another team member score at times to give the best result for the team... is football no longer a sport when a player passes the ball instead of kicking straight at the goal?

From a sporting perspective I see very little difference between team orders to hold position and not fight for the win (which is what they did) and team orders to swap the top two positions and not fight for the win (which would have given the best chance at the drivers title).

[Beethree]

confucuis said:

Ya I think it was the wrong decision. Yes Tanak is unlikely to catch Rovenpera but you have to at least give him the best chance possible to do so!

Some of Tanaks driving this weekend was incredible to watch. So aggressive and fast. Probably fastest most exciting rallying I've ever seen.

Again, really enjoyed the WRC+ coverage, great to see all the stages live. Also really like the Dirtfish videos on Youtube, Colin Clarke is their onsite journalist which a daily round up of action and driver interviews (though they don't seem to want to mention Breen at all to my chagrin.)

I’ve found the Dirtfish coverage to be excellent this year, as someone who won’t pay for WRC+.
They’re ARA coverage has also been really good.

[thepawbroon]

A new closed-public-road rally in South Yorkshire has been announced:

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=...

[_Yeti]

Is anybody planning on attending the Wye Dean rally in October? There's no official spectator parking this year. But I'd love to go and watch it. Does anybody know if other parking will be available?

[Beethree]

_Yeti said:

Is anybody planning on attending the Wye Dean rally in October? There's no official spectator parking this year. But I'd love to go and watch it. Does anybody know if other parking will be available?

As I’ve moved only down the road but it hasn’t been on since I’ve been here, I’m very keen to take my kids down.
I’m keeping an eye out on Facebook and within my local club to see what happens with spectating.

[ArnageWRC]

_Yeti said:

Is anybody planning on attending the Wye Dean rally in October? There's no official spectator parking this year. But I'd love to go and watch it. Does anybody know if other parking will be available?

https://www.wyedeanstages.co.uk/spectator-information

I'm not really sure what to say.....There will be a rally taking place, but no spectator information will be provided, but you can use the car parks you usually use, but instead of paying the organising club volunteers, you'll be paying the Forestry.

Marvellous.....

[Drumroll]

ArnageWRC said:

https://www.wyedeanstages.co.uk/spectator-informat...

I'm not really sure what to say.....There will be a rally taking place, but no spectator information will be provided, but you can use the car parks you usually use, but instead of paying the organising club volunteers, you'll be paying the Forestry.

Marvellous.....

Very strange, I don't understand what the club will achieve. Not making the stage information readily available, doesn't make much sense as people are likely to turn up at places you don't want them to.

[Beethree]

ArnageWRC said:

https://www.wyedeanstages.co.uk/spectator-informat...

I'm not really sure what to say.....There will be a rally taking place, but no spectator information will be provided, but you can use the car parks you usually use, but instead of paying the organising club volunteers, you'll be paying the Forestry.

Marvellous.....

Yup, from what I’ve heard Forestry have been somewhat difficult.