2023: BTCC chat & discussion

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matt5964 said:

Will be there on Sunday with Laser tools,

much prefer driving the gp , think that should give a couple extras overtaking opportunities

Are you Jake Hill?

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ninepoint2 said:

Current Standings

1 Dan CAMMISH 88
2 Tom INGRAM 83
3 Ash SUTTON 78
4 Colin TURKINGTON 70
5 Jake HILL 58

This years champion is in that group, not sure anyone else is in with a chance TBH

I think I've got to agree with that.

I wonder if the NAPA cars will have their turbo boost dialled back to give other teams a chance this weekend at Snet?

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Timetable for the weekend @ Snetterton:

Saturday, May 20

09.15 – 09.50 Free Practice Kwik Fit British Touring Car Championship
10.10 – 10.40 Qualifying The Hagerty Radical Cup UK
10.50 – 11.20 Qualifying Porsche Sprint Challenge Great Britain
11.30 – 12.00 Qualifying The Vertu Motors MINI CHALLENGE
12.10 – 12.45 Free Practice Kwik Fit British Touring Car Championship
13.00 – 13.20 Qualifying ROKiT F4 British Championship

14.20 Race The Hagerty Radical Cup UK
15.05 Race Porsche Sprint Challenge Great Britain
15.40 – 16.10 Qualifying Kwik Fit British Touring Car Championship
16.25 Race The Vertu Motors MINI CHALLENGE
17.00 Race ROKiT F4 British Championship

Sunday, May 21

09.15 The Hagerty Radical Cup UK
10.00 Porsche Sprint Challenge Great Britain
10.35 The Vertu Motors MINI CHALLENGE

11.25 Race 1: Kwik Fit British Touring Car Championship

12.05 ROKiT F4 British Championship 20 mins
12.45 – 13.15 Pit Lane Walkabout / Autograph Session
13.35 The Hagerty Radical Cup UK

14.35 Race 2: Kwik Fit British Touring Car Championship

15.15 Porsche Sprint Challenge Great Britain
15.50 The Vertu Motors MINI CHALLENGE
16.25 ROKiT F4 British Championship

17.15 Race 3: Kwik Fit British Touring Car Championship

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And now another Red Flag. I hope the teams do manage to get a qualifying session.

Dan Cammish won't be happy as he's lost his only lap time because he caused the Red Flag.

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Another very messy qualifying session. But it proves one thing — the top teams are truly professional and they shine through, no matter what.

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TheBinarySheep said:

Are the BMW's pants?

I don't think so, they seem to be the most consistent performers after the NAPA Focuses, plenty of podiums at Snetterton for the BMWs and that's in spite of the boost advantage that the NAPA cars have.

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Mr MXT said:

What was the reason for Dan Cams ride height failure in race 3? Had he sustained damage somewhere? Real shame after a great charge.

Good question.

If the car had sustained damage, it would fail the ride height test on that corner (or side).

But to fail all round the whole car looks suspiciously like bad set-up.

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TheBinarySheep said:

I've only been watching for a few year, but why do the NAPA cars have more boost?

Smollet said:

Do they have more boost or just a superior chassis?

The boost figures are published at the start of the season. The NAPA cars were given more boost than the other teams.

This boost level was to be reviewed after the Snetterton rounds.

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Thruxton this weekend.

Last year Josh Cook claimed victory in Race 1. He's obviously been very disappointed with his car so far this year, but it all seemed to come good at Snetterton, so let's see what he produces in his favourite circuit this time.

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Qualifying for Thruxton:

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MB140 said:

Christ just keep it on the track.

As easy as that then?

I think that after the "lively" pre-race drivers' meeting this morning and the rather large numbers of track times that were removed from qualifying today, means that it it not as easy as "keeping it on the track".

Tim Harvey is clearly frustrated, as noted with his commentary today, and he has said before about the new track limits rules: “It's policed by somebody with eyes watching, and they only will police it at certain corners, not at every corner. Now, if it’s a rule it should apply universally to every corner at every track, and be policed in a way that can be accurate and consistent. And it’s not. So it’s not a rule that is fit for purpose.”

Racers like to race, and of course they are going to use as much of the track as they possibly can. But if you're right on the edge of these "track limits" and the tyres hit a bit of dirt or gravel and shuffle slightly, is that really the driver's fault?

As with the rule on the start grid if the car is out of position by a few centimetres (and this could not in a million years affect the race), and with track limits, the punishment does not fit the crime.

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MB140 said:

Well he has adjusted the boost the bmw get off the start from this weekend onwards. Seems to have worked well for bmw.

That was introduced at Thruxton.

Just got back from Oulton. What a weekend for Jake Hill and LTR!

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acer12 said:

Bring back Wookie. Hard to get behind our new competitor poster with his recent driving style, got another warning from the bosses for taking out and ruining another drivers race this weekend. Seems like the driving style taught at team dynamics is hard to shake off.

Really would be useful to know what the fk you are talking about?

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trackdemon said:

Anyone know what happened? Found it odd there seemed to be no mention (although tbf I didn't watch every last minute of it!) and I've not seen any news elsewhere. Just seemed a bit odd considering his profile in the sport...

What do you think happened?

(Bobby Thompson.)

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Milkyway said:

Team Hard.... news on the street, Rob Huff is Racing.

You'll have to have a word with your "street" mates:

Huff was never going to be racing in BTCC this weekend as he is racing in TCR World Tour.

https://www.btcc.net/2023/08/25/team-hard-cupra-to...

Edited by Sebring440 on Friday 25th August 20:38

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Milkyway said:

‘Huggy Bear’ has let me down... he was jetting off to Venezuela after Knockhill.

Ah, that explains it of course.

Pity he wasn't heading to Argentina.

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Milkyway said:

Team Hard: Only five cars.
( riddle solved... & each team now having had a driver change)
https://www.touringcartimes.com/2023/08/25/team-ha...

Edited by Milkyway on Friday 25th August 22:18

Riddle solved?

The Touring Car Times article is written from the BTCC press release that I quoted earlier.

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DanielSan said:

Not sure how true it is but to use the other layout would also require using the new put building and apparently Silverstone charge more to use that....

Apparently?

That layout was to be used in 2020 as Silverstone was on the original BTCC calendar twice that year. But then something happened.

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GlobalRacer said:

Hill's "pass" was diabolical. I'm gobsmacked they let that stand. You can't overtake with the car completely off the circuit like that.

Jake Hill's onboard footage showed how Cook squeezed him as he was alongside which the TV footage didn't show as the camera angles switched.

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Dynion Araf Uchaf said:

and Matt Neal has his hands full with Rimstock.

What? You mean the Rimstock that the Neals sold in 2016?

The Rimstock that went into administration in July?

I didn't realise that Matt Neal was still involved.

Thanks for the update.