Nurburgring 24hr 2023

Nurburgring 24hr 2023

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Digga

40,352 posts

284 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Great shame for Manthey that they had to retire #911. Amazing luck that Estre’s puncture, just moments after he’d been overtaking, side by side through Teirgarten, did not cause a more serious accident.

I wonder what went on there. They retired the car because they were unable to figure out the cause of problems. I remember Lamborghini being plagued with punctures a few years back and wonder if this is anything to do with BoP changes forced on them?

I may be reading more into this than was fact, but the Porsche teams seem more than a bit unspent with how this worked out for them.

Have to say though, some epic racing with the other teams though, A mate had some driver coaching from Pittard at the DN day at the start of the month. Talking to him at that point, he’d not fully finalised his seat for the 24hr. Impressive.

Wayoftheflower

1,328 posts

236 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Interesting if comparatively quiet race with 18hours down so far.

The speed difference between the fastest and slowest classes really makes N24 the unique challenge it is, which should be celebrated and encouraged.

My introduction to N24 was via the documentary series "Mal's Big Green Hell" describing the Aussie's entry into the 2006 race back when the crowds were even madder and the entry list over 200!

The balance of keeping the corporates happy without losing the soul of an event is a tricky one but to me N24 is at it's best when it's encouraging respect between faster drivers and inovation by the teams.

That flywheel hybrid 911 got so close 2010, Glickenhaus has made a huge effort over the years. I want more of that.

Sandpit Steve

10,104 posts

75 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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The yellow and red Mercs are somehow only a couple of seconds apart, after 18 hours! Do we know what happened to the green one, #3? (Edit: just seen a replay of him tripping over a slower car, and breaking his suspension).

Shame about #911, watched that going up and down the field for a few hours, hoping they could get back close to the front.

The lead #30 Ferrari looks very comfortable out there, although he did just lose concentration and hit a kerb hard.

Loads of punctures and tyre failures, and just as I write that, there’s a flaming tyre in the middle of the track!

Dacia Logan didn’t make it through the night, getting caught up in what looked like three cars at very different speeds all on the same piece of Tarmac, and the unsighted faster Porsche taking him out.


Edited by Sandpit Steve on Sunday 21st May 09:05

df76

3,639 posts

279 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Sandpit Steve said:
Dacia Logan didn’t make it through the night, getting caught up in what looked like three cars at very different speeds all on the same piece of Tarmac, and the unsighted faster Porsche taking him out.


Edited by Sandpit Steve on Sunday 21st May 09:05
Well, that was all fairly predictable.

LukeBrown66

4,479 posts

47 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Think the Logan is perhaps a little too slow for this race, it barely seems able to get round at times, fab that it is there, but it is minutes a lap slower than lots of other stuff. And it cant be that much fun spending the entire race with your indicator on looking in your mirrors, but hey this is what some people want!

I did spend an hour or so earlier watching 16 Audi on board, every lap like qualifying lap, walloping kerbs, maxxing revs, these are truly amazing machines to stand up to that for so long.

rallycross

12,813 posts

238 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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df76 said:
Well, that was all fairly predictable.
Thought this might happen in the dark that thing was just a liability with the speed difference

Digga

40,352 posts

284 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Sandpit Steve said:
The yellow and red Mercs are somehow only a couple of seconds apart, after 18 hours! Do we know what happened to the green one, #3? (Edit: just seen a replay of him tripping over a slower car, and breaking his suspension).
The lead Ferrari and the pursuing BMW M4, when you factor in that the lead will have a sonnet and longer pit stop, are barely 1m apart too. Superb racing.

rallycross

12,813 posts

238 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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df76 said:
Well, that was all fairly predictable.
Thought this might happen in the dark that thing was just a liability with the speed difference

Sandpit Steve

10,104 posts

75 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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So four hours to go, and there’s four cars on the lead lap, four cars one lap back, and five cars one more lap back. Brilliantly close, after such a long and arduous race.

First time in years following this race, thanks mainly to F1 having an unscheduled weekend off. Will definitely follow it next year. The coverage has been very good, free, and informative, with the whole circuit now covered in cameras and plenty of onboards. thumbup

thegreenhell

15,407 posts

220 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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If you crash in a race here do you have to pay for the barrier repairs like you do if you crash in TF?

ecsrobin

17,137 posts

166 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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df76 said:
Sandpit Steve said:
Dacia Logan didn’t make it through the night, getting caught up in what looked like three cars at very different speeds all on the same piece of Tarmac, and the unsighted faster Porsche taking him out.


Edited by Sandpit Steve on Sunday 21st May 09:05
Well, that was all fairly predictable.
Porsche driver has been fined by the stewards €3000 for causing an avoidable collision.

500TORQUES

4,603 posts

16 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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thegreenhell said:
If you crash in a race here do you have to pay for the barrier repairs like you do if you crash in TF?
No.

Digga

40,352 posts

284 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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911 Carrrera blown radiator in the Caracciola Karussel. Maxime Martin’s BMW M4 nearly spat out of the banking as it hit.

Only red & yellow flag is already in the corner.

500TORQUES

4,603 posts

16 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Digga said:
911 Carrrera blown radiator in the Caracciola Karussel. Maxime Martin’s BMW M4 nearly spat out of the banking as it hit.

Only red & yellow flag is already in the corner.
Took a risk there trying not to lose time.

Joeywinkle

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221 posts

20 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Looking like this could be a very tight finish between 1st and 2nd! All hinging on whether or not the Ferrari can avoid that extra stop over the BMW.

What a race it’s been so far, so glad the weather has held out.

Sandpit Steve

10,104 posts

75 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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62 mins to go, that Ferrari is going to the end, even if it has to drive half a lap slowly at the death.

500TORQUES

4,603 posts

16 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Fingers crossed they make it OK, the handling looks buggered with dead dampers.

Ultuous

2,248 posts

192 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Sandpit Steve said:
62 mins to go
Glad you pointed this out - have stuff to do after spending way too much of the weekend watching this cracking race, but managed to get myself 60 minutes behind on the YouTube feed! biggrin



Sandpit Steve

10,104 posts

75 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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There goes the event distance record. There’s going to be about eight cars over the old record. Two laps to go for the leaders.

boxedin

1,354 posts

127 months

Sunday 21st May 2023
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Hats off to Ferrari ( Oreca! ). Very impressive and they got the rub of the green with the puncture so near to the pits.

Between WEC and this, Ferrari are nailing it.