Nurburgring 24hr 2023
Discussion
krallicious said:
Local taxi service.
As had been said, the dates for 2024 are set. I’m staying around 20 km from Nürnberg and the taxi was around 50€ one way. We have been splitting the cost between 2 and it has worked out a lot cheaper that a hotel near the circuit. We did book fairly late though.
That's a bargain for a 400km taxi ride from Nürnberg to the Nürburgring As had been said, the dates for 2024 are set. I’m staying around 20 km from Nürnberg and the taxi was around 50€ one way. We have been splitting the cost between 2 and it has worked out a lot cheaper that a hotel near the circuit. We did book fairly late though.
DangerDoom said:
Those of you with experience... how do the grandstand tickets work?
Have looked around and can't seem to find pricing.
Never ever bothered, the stands down the back of the GP track are free as is the big grass bank, to be honest bar the grid walk and the support races don't even bother with the GP track, rest of the track there are no grandstands, just get a rucksack some proper walking shoes and get out there and walk the track. plenty of routes, always worth getting up at 5 am to see the sunrise from bilstein bridge ( not this year though as overcast) Have looked around and can't seem to find pricing.
I'd say don't bother
Not sure I'd agree with the views here:
https://www.autosport.com/gt/news/engel-calls-for-...
As impressive as the top tier GT cars are, I'd rather see more "familar" TCR and saloon & hatch cars in the race.
https://www.autosport.com/gt/news/engel-calls-for-...
As impressive as the top tier GT cars are, I'd rather see more "familar" TCR and saloon & hatch cars in the race.
mat205125 said:
Not sure I'd agree with the views here:
https://www.autosport.com/gt/news/engel-calls-for-...
As impressive as the top tier GT cars are, I'd rather see more "familar" TCR and saloon & hatch cars in the race.
I think there has been a drop in experience required to get a 24 hr seat, replaced by that magic talent alternative .... money. https://www.autosport.com/gt/news/engel-calls-for-...
As impressive as the top tier GT cars are, I'd rather see more "familar" TCR and saloon & hatch cars in the race.
There should be a clearer structure and cv requirement to do a 24hr on the nordschliefe, Maybe we should see the RCN get an after dark round as well,
I agree i love the normal cars and underdogs, the cheer for the Dacia and the manta this year was huge. i mean its only 25yrs since an e36 320d won the race. GT cars have had a huge impact of course but the fans do love that story to get behind.
its a tough one to make work. But i'll be there next may same as normal, never tire of the event. Really helps me smash my step count too.
ecsrobin said:
The Dacia team seem to imply the GT3 driver that crashed into them was a young driver who had only done 2 NLS races.
Makes no difference this was an accident waiting to happen traffic in the dark - get two or three quick cars battling and then find the mobile chicane at one of the tricky parts of the track then guess what ? A huge accident .freedman said:
LukeBrown66 said:
It is up to him to try and lap them, typical GT3 superstar stuff, the moment you take that chance away the race becomes nothing.
Most of the GT3 incidents with slower cars seemed to be the fault of the faster cars from what I sawI have to disagree with the comments Engel made, the GT4 appeared to be following the normalish line for a car of that performance through the the Stefan Bellof-S slightly right on entry then moving slightly left. They do move left slightly late but not unduly so. Engel IMHO just misread the actions of driver and assumed they where going to stay right and let him past.
Classic fast car, fast driver misreading the positioning and intent of the slower car, fairly typical stuff of mixed class racing.
However from video he just went for gap that wasn't there expecting the Dacia to either vanish or run massively wide leaving him a clear line.
The slow cars aren't the problem here its the fast cars and drivers misreading how they are going to behave and generally wiping the slower car out plus of course themselves.
Classic fast car, fast driver misreading the positioning and intent of the slower car, fairly typical stuff of mixed class racing.
ecsrobin said:
The Dacia team seem to imply the GT3 driver that crashed into them was a young driver who had only done 2 NLS races.
Complex one the GT3 driver Laurin Heinrich was on début in the N24. However he is a FIA "gold" driver, reigning champion in Carrera cup Germany and finished 3rd in Supercup. He's one step down in the Porsche ladder from a full factory contract by being a "contracted driver". So not a slow driver or someone new to circuit driving. Calling him inexperienced doesn't IMHO fit. However from video he just went for gap that wasn't there expecting the Dacia to either vanish or run massively wide leaving him a clear line.
The slow cars aren't the problem here its the fast cars and drivers misreading how they are going to behave and generally wiping the slower car out plus of course themselves.
I get why the top guys are moaning, they want it all to themselves with less speed difference, but thee are guys that race GT3 cars pretty much solely, try WEC or ELMS, OK not on tracks like this, but the same thing is always an issue.
If you meddle with the 24 you ruin it really, this year was fairly good nowhere near as many stoppages. Suck it up Maro you were at that level once
If you meddle with the 24 you ruin it really, this year was fairly good nowhere near as many stoppages. Suck it up Maro you were at that level once
Brent Hoffmeister said:
500TORQUES said:
thegreenhell said:
If you crash in a race here do you have to pay for the barrier repairs like you do if you crash in TF?
No.The entry fee covers any potential costs for damage to the circuit during the event.
"The entry fees include a pro rata contribution (lost subsidy) for the repair of guard rail and track damages, as well as energy costs, supply and disposal costs (except for further waste and special waste " see Article 10.1 Part 3 Organizational Regulations). "
500TORQUES said:
Brent Hoffmeister said:
500TORQUES said:
thegreenhell said:
If you crash in a race here do you have to pay for the barrier repairs like you do if you crash in TF?
No.The entry fee covers any potential costs for damage to the circuit during the event.
"The entry fees include a pro rata contribution (lost subsidy) for the repair of guard rail and track damages, as well as energy costs, supply and disposal costs (except for further waste and special waste " see Article 10.1 Part 3 Organizational Regulations). "
Brent Hoffmeister said:
I stand corrected. Comment was made in good faith based on the marshals briefing but without reference to the regulations.
Some of the older regs i have show a charge used to be made, it's likely you need to still inform race control for insurance reasons and so they can log any pattern to see if the costs are being covered enough for that class of car. Entry fees vary by class.500TORQUES said:
Brent Hoffmeister said:
I stand corrected. Comment was made in good faith based on the marshals briefing but without reference to the regulations.
Some of the older regs i have show a charge used to be made, it's likely you need to still inform race control for insurance reasons and so they can log any pattern to see if the costs are being covered enough for that class of car. Entry fees vary by class.
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