2024: BTCC chat & discussion
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Jake Hill has started a channel and is doing some good videos here he is in David Leslie ex Honda accord car at a very wet brands hatch for a test drive - turn the volume up sounds amazing ….
https://youtu.be/yPq-HSEZ8OU?si=pB5C6X4iHlXJjkLn
https://youtu.be/yPq-HSEZ8OU?si=pB5C6X4iHlXJjkLn
Scaleybrat said:
Thanks for posting - sound of that engine! Brings back memories of sitting at Knockhill with cars coming straight at you whilst sat at Jim Clark.
It’s an awesome engine sound.Which corner is Jim Clark? I’ve only seen touring cars once at knock hill (450 mile drive ) and Tarquini rolled his Alfa right where I was standing was a violent crash ….
rallycross said:
Scaleybrat said:
Thanks for posting - sound of that engine! Brings back memories of sitting at Knockhill with cars coming straight at you whilst sat at Jim Clark.
It’s an awesome engine sound.Which corner is Jim Clark? I’ve only seen touring cars once at knock hill (450 mile drive ) and Tarquini rolled his Alfa right where I was standing was a violent crash ….
Clark’s is turn 7, the first corner you arrive at after going through the chicane.
GlobalRacer said:
Can't see an issue with the engines to be honest. You either use the standard TOCA engine or an engine from the manufacturer. Forcing them to use the engine that came with the actual model being used would create issues as not all the cars actually come with a 2 litre engine.
If they don’t come with the correct engine, use a car/manufacturer that provides oneIt’s a complete farce the series runs engines that have nothing to do with the shell of the manufacturer it sits in
It’s supposed to be a touring car series, not Modified or Special saloons
freedman said:
If they don’t come with the correct engine, use a car/manufacturer that provides one
It’s a complete farce the series runs engines that have nothing to do with the shell of the manufacturer it sits in
It’s supposed to be a touring car series, not Modified or Special saloons
So the "solution" is to make teams build new cars at huge expense purely to fit an engine rule that does nothing for the sport as far as I can see?It’s a complete farce the series runs engines that have nothing to do with the shell of the manufacturer it sits in
It’s supposed to be a touring car series, not Modified or Special saloons
What is the issue with the way things are now? Are people really not watching because some of the cars use a standard engine or an engine from a different model?
GlobalRacer said:
So the "solution" is to make teams build new cars at huge expense purely to fit an engine rule that does nothing for the sport as far as I can see?
What is the issue with the way things are now? Are people really not watching because some of the cars use a standard engine or an engine from a different model?
The solution is to revert the rules to how they used to beWhat is the issue with the way things are now? Are people really not watching because some of the cars use a standard engine or an engine from a different model?
If you have a Ford, it needs to be running a Ford Engine, or a BMW etc
It’s not complicated, and how touring cars should be
freedman said:
The solution is to revert the rules to how they used to be
If you have a Ford, it needs to be running a Ford Engine, or a BMW etc
It’s not complicated, and how touring cars should be
So you're saying the TOCA engine should be abandoned then? If you don't use that engine (and most don't) then you already have to run an engine from the manufacturer so Ford in a Ford and BMW in a BMW etc. The TOCA engine is Ford based these days.If you have a Ford, it needs to be running a Ford Engine, or a BMW etc
It’s not complicated, and how touring cars should be
Still don't get what a change like that would do for the sport other than put costs up.
I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that if you see a Honda Civic racing or a BMW it has a Honda or a BMW engine in it. Otherwise like I said they might as well grab random bodyshell A and stick random engine B in it. If I'm a BMW fan I'd like to see a BMW racing, not a BMW bodyshell with a generic Toca engine in. Doesn't have to be 2 litres, in fact I'm surprised it still is, but anyway.
How fun would a fully reversed grid be with bonus points for most overtakes?! Halstead would be on pole nearly every race 3...
How fun would a fully reversed grid be with bonus points for most overtakes?! Halstead would be on pole nearly every race 3...
The Wookie said:
cuprabob said:
You would end up with teams choreographing overtakes between team mates to increment the number of overtakes to try and get more points.
Not sure you'd get many of them to play nice enough for thatBy the way, are you in a Porsche again this season?
cuprabob said:
If team mates were running 1,2 didn't they sometimes swap position to get the extra point for leading the race? I appreciate coming through the pack it might not be as easy
By the way, are you in a Porsche again this season?
That’s the one team where i would expect them to play nice to be fair By the way, are you in a Porsche again this season?
I am indeed! First test was promising but I’m still too fat at the moment and not sure I’ll have enough time outside of work to put a dent in it! I’m just in it to enjoy it now though, so as long as I’ve got a chance at some class pots im happy
The Wookie said:
That’s the one team where i would expect them to play nice to be fair
I am indeed! First test was promising but I’m still too fat at the moment and not sure I’ll have enough time outside of work to put a dent in it! I’m just in it to enjoy it now though, so as long as I’ve got a chance at some class pots im happy
Which series do you compete in?I am indeed! First test was promising but I’m still too fat at the moment and not sure I’ll have enough time outside of work to put a dent in it! I’m just in it to enjoy it now though, so as long as I’ve got a chance at some class pots im happy
Edit: Porsche Carrera Cup - matters have become serious and expensive.
Edited by bigothunter on Monday 18th March 22:45
Kart16 said:
freedman said:
The solution is to revert the rules to how they used to be
If you have a Ford, it needs to be running a Ford Engine, or a BMW etc
It’s not complicated, and how touring cars should be
Good luck getting funding from the manufacturers nowadays. If you have a Ford, it needs to be running a Ford Engine, or a BMW etc
It’s not complicated, and how touring cars should be
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