Autosport show 2024
Discussion
Kev_Mk3 said:
Looks deserted, like they have had to deliberately space the cars out so it doesn't look so empty.We used to go every year as my brother used to race, but I haven't been for nearly 15 years. Back then the Demon Tweeks stand was massive and there were interesting cars everywhere, usually with attractive models draped all over them.
The live action arena was always good, I can still smell the stench of tyre and clutch smoke as we left.
I stopped going as it was the same thing every year, but in hindsight it was amazing back then compared to this video.
Wow that video is bleak. I remember going in the 90’s and early 2000’s and it was bursting with modern racing cars and personalities. There were memorabilia retailers everywhere and it was crowded. I thought about going this year as I haven’t been for about 15 years. I’m glad I didn’t.
As I said earlier, a post here said people were at the show and admitted to trying to take it in a new area, more drifty modified stuff.
that pushes a lot of traditional motorsport people away as the crowd is less them.
I see the logic in trying to find new interest, but it kind of stinks to me of "we cant make any money out of this lot, let's try and tap into a new revenue stream"
Instead of reading the reviews and places like here about pricing, the boring show aspect, stall space, pathetic joke parking fees.
For me a new arena, a fresh start and somewhere where you can get proper smaller stalls back because they WILL come of you make it worthwhile, and the only way is cheaper space and cheaper prices for fans, then you will get real footfall, all they have done for the past 1- years is cream as much as they can out of a dwindling crowd.
The issue is if a show is a success the hosts realise and charge more and more, then the promoter needs to do so and it becomes an ever shrinking circle. because of the usual thing, blind, pathetic greed, and eventually no-one wins.
that pushes a lot of traditional motorsport people away as the crowd is less them.
I see the logic in trying to find new interest, but it kind of stinks to me of "we cant make any money out of this lot, let's try and tap into a new revenue stream"
Instead of reading the reviews and places like here about pricing, the boring show aspect, stall space, pathetic joke parking fees.
For me a new arena, a fresh start and somewhere where you can get proper smaller stalls back because they WILL come of you make it worthwhile, and the only way is cheaper space and cheaper prices for fans, then you will get real footfall, all they have done for the past 1- years is cream as much as they can out of a dwindling crowd.
The issue is if a show is a success the hosts realise and charge more and more, then the promoter needs to do so and it becomes an ever shrinking circle. because of the usual thing, blind, pathetic greed, and eventually no-one wins.
The only a change comes is if people stop attending, stop the stupid over paying.
These companies have social media people who will say anything positive to you to make sure you go (because they know how easily manipulated people are on socials) and say nothing about criticism, but take it on board.
The only way you affect change is to act by not going, and sadly enough people are bored after Xmas that it always gets a crowd.
So it will just carry on being a rather damp squib.
These companies have social media people who will say anything positive to you to make sure you go (because they know how easily manipulated people are on socials) and say nothing about criticism, but take it on board.
The only way you affect change is to act by not going, and sadly enough people are bored after Xmas that it always gets a crowd.
So it will just carry on being a rather damp squib.
61GT said:
I thought that Thursday and Friday have always been designated trade days?
They were but they always let MSA (MSUK now) licence holders attend those days. Now they don't and you have to be in a connected business. I tried to get a ticket via my business but, as there's no motorsport connection, I was refused.GlobalRacer said:
They were but they always let MSA (MSUK now) licence holders attend those days. Now they don't and you have to be in a connected business. I tried to get a ticket via my business but, as there's no motorsport connection, I was refused.
We aren’t in the trade, as such, just licence holders, and got tickets for Thursday without issuefreedman said:
We aren’t in the trade, as such, just licence holders, and got tickets for Thursday without issue
Interesting. They always explicitly said on the ticket booking page that license holders were allowed on trade days but this year they didn't and when I phoned to query it they said it was for motorsport related business people only on those two days. Just another example of how poorly run it is I guess.GlobalRacer said:
Interesting. They always explicitly said on the ticket booking page that license holders were allowed on trade days but this year they didn't and when I phoned to query it they said it was for motorsport related business people only on those two days. Just another example of how poorly run it is I guess.
There was even a drop down on the ticket application page asking for your licence numberflatlandsman said:
As I said earlier, a post here said people were at the show and admitted to trying to take it in a new area, more drifty modified stuff.
that pushes a lot of traditional motorsport people away as the crowd is less them.
I see the logic in trying to find new interest, but it kind of stinks to me of "we cant make any money out of this lot, let's try and tap into a new revenue stream"
Instead of reading the reviews and places like here about pricing, the boring show aspect, stall space, pathetic joke parking fees.
For me a new arena, a fresh start and somewhere where you can get proper smaller stalls back because they WILL come of you make it worthwhile, and the only way is cheaper space and cheaper prices for fans, then you will get real footfall, all they have done for the past 1- years is cream as much as they can out of a dwindling crowd.
The issue is if a show is a success the hosts realise and charge more and more, then the promoter needs to do so and it becomes an ever shrinking circle. because of the usual thing, blind, pathetic greed, and eventually no-one wins.
Why would normal motorsport be pushed out by drifting for example?that pushes a lot of traditional motorsport people away as the crowd is less them.
I see the logic in trying to find new interest, but it kind of stinks to me of "we cant make any money out of this lot, let's try and tap into a new revenue stream"
Instead of reading the reviews and places like here about pricing, the boring show aspect, stall space, pathetic joke parking fees.
For me a new arena, a fresh start and somewhere where you can get proper smaller stalls back because they WILL come of you make it worthwhile, and the only way is cheaper space and cheaper prices for fans, then you will get real footfall, all they have done for the past 1- years is cream as much as they can out of a dwindling crowd.
The issue is if a show is a success the hosts realise and charge more and more, then the promoter needs to do so and it becomes an ever shrinking circle. because of the usual thing, blind, pathetic greed, and eventually no-one wins.
I don't think a new arena is the answer either, the NEC is easier for every one to get to people moan about the cost of parking, well if its held at Earls Court there wouldn't be any cost for parking because there isn't any.
I am not sure what the answer is, I didn't go this year after going for about the last fifteen or so years.
To be brutal with you, you and people like you are the reason it stays there, you keep going despite it being smaller and smaller every year! They rely on that. I am being harsh but this is the reality for so much modern stuff, more and more money from less and less people. The last two shows have been panned pretty much, yet it will be 40 quid next year 19 quid to park and less stuff than this year AGAIN. That has been the trend for over 15 years.
NEC is a great venue, but read a few other comments, awful people to deal with for people who want to display, floor space is 4 or 5 times the price of any other show, even at the same sodding venue, it is just a massive, colossal cash grab by the people running it.
That is why they do not cover parking as they probably get some take from it.
I hope fora reset, but I cannot see another venue, there are some great places but probably further away,
NEC is a great venue, but read a few other comments, awful people to deal with for people who want to display, floor space is 4 or 5 times the price of any other show, even at the same sodding venue, it is just a massive, colossal cash grab by the people running it.
That is why they do not cover parking as they probably get some take from it.
I hope fora reset, but I cannot see another venue, there are some great places but probably further away,
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