Schumacher Vs Mansell?

[rubystone]

williamp said:

rubystone said: aeropilot said: Maybe the most in total, but taken as a percentage of poles against GP's, which is a far better indication IMHO, Senna ranks only 4th behind Fangio, Clark and Ascari. There's no right or wrong answer is there - Fangio is renowned for being lucky or well informed in his choice of racing car. Senna is known as a one lap specialist and Clark benefitted from the DFV and Chapmans' engineering skills...plus he died early in his career. Point of order, m'lud: Clark never won a championship with a DFV: races, yes but Hulme won in 67, (the first race with the DFV) and Clark was killed in 68. His tema mate won in 68 with the DFV. And Clark was champion 3 times. He didnt die early in his career. Fangio is renowned for thoswe skills above, yes. But also for being very quick- in the same car, Moss could'nt beat him very often, and Moss was 20+ years younger Will

Read the guy's posting again my friend - we're talking about pole positions, not GP victories, world championships or which racing driver had the bigest knob

Clark won 2 championships, didn't he? 1963 and 1965 IIRC - i.e. in quick succession...and would have gone on to win in 1968 and potentially 1970 had he stayed with Lotus (...and survived!)

[Eric Mc]

And, as I said, he came VERY close to winning the title in 1962. He also could have won the title in 1964. But for a few relatively minor technical problems, he could have been World Champion in 1962, 1963, 1964 and 1965. Don't forget that Clark missed the Monaco GP in 1965 so that he could take part in the 1965 Indy 500 (which he won).

1966 was never going to be a Lotus year as they had no definitive engine for the new 3 litre F1 formula. 1967 was better but the DFV was unreliable. If Hockenheim hadn't claimed him, I have no doubt he would have walked the 1968 season.

[FourWheelDrift]

And Clark still managed to win at Watkins Glen in 1966 running the heavy and unreliable BRM H16 engined Lotud 43.

[Eric Mc]

The only time the H16 ever won a race. BRM never made it work properly.

[D_Mike]

If you look at Clarks results, when he finished it was generally 1st or 2nd. If he didn't finish in those positions he generally didn't finish the race (through mechanical failiure).

[rallysanf]

Well maybe Schui will get bored of the young wipper-snappers in F1 and fancy a crack at some of the old boys. Prost, Schui, Mansell, ect all on the same track, same cars could be good.

Forgetting the stats for mo, the best driver argument is always hard, different generations, cars, some are dead, makes it hard. From the original post, my heart says Nige, but my head says Schui. Based on recent Germany, England battles (i'm only 30, parents weren't born in the war, I wasn't thought of in '66), I would have to say Schui's on good ground,,that said we do seem to win the important ones though