Legge crashes on F1 testing debut
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Racylady said:
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By the way, testing times - Vallelunga (day three):
1. Juan Caceres Minardi-Cosworth 1min 21.019secs
2. Katherine Legge Minardi-Cosworth 1min 21.176secs
3. Chanoch Nissany Minardi-Cosworth 1min 24.65secs
Not bad considering Nissany is the regular test driver.
Whilst I appreciate Katherine's skill at the wheel of an Atlantic, having raced one myself, I think that we can rest assured that she is not 3 seconds faster than Chanoch.
I dare say that the likes of Schumacher and co. would be unable to lap anywhere near 3 seconds faster than Chanock, assuming equal equipment and conditions.
trackcar said:
if she was going 10 seconds a lap slower I'd say she was a liability ..
maybe she was touching up her lippy?
You know, comments like that don't help anyone. I think good on 'er for getting the test in the first place - something a lot of other drivers (and I make no distinction between male and female here) have done.
I know Katherine and she's a bloody good driver - she's proved this by going out to America and winning races in a very competitive championship. Yeah, so she crashed it. So what? Like no one else has ever done this. I'm sure she was pushing it from the word go - otherwise, what's the point?
This girl has got balls bigger than most blokes I know and I think she deserves a bit of respect.
seems to me you've completely missed the point .. Bedford Rascal sums it up perfectly though. She's in F1, the pinnacle, she stuffed it .. F1 isn't a charity.
For sure she's got big balls, presumably also a big bank balance to buy her seat like everyone else in the lower orders of F1.
talented? undoubtedly! worth giving a break? for sure! to be ridiculed for stuffing it on lap 2? indeedy ! just like a bloke would had it happened to a bloke.
Wimmin ..
Dude you are way off the mark. Katherine is genuinely quick and got the test on ability to drive not pay. She made a mistake like we all can and sadly she makes the headlines here because its easy to take the piss than give respect.
hammerwerfer said:
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By the way, testing times - Vallelunga (day three):
1. Juan Caceres Minardi-Cosworth 1min 21.019secs
2. Katherine Legge Minardi-Cosworth 1min 21.176secs
3. Chanoch Nissany Minardi-Cosworth 1min 24.65secs
Not bad considering Nissany is the regular test driver.
Whilst I appreciate Katherine's skill at the wheel of an Atlantic, having raced one myself, I think that we can rest assured that she is not 3 seconds faster than Chanoch.
I dare say that the likes of Schumacher and co. would be unable to lap anywhere near 3 seconds faster than Chanock, assuming equal equipment and conditions.
am I mis reading this e-mail?
Caceres went 3.61 seconds faster than him so why couldn't Katherine? Schumacher or any half decent driver go three seconds faster than Chanock?
Personally I say good on her for getting there in the first place, LAuda was a pay driver for March and looker pretty normal when he first got to F1 so why does every "Superstar" have to have fantastic first tests? Jos Verstappen and Jan Magnussen had Incredibly good first tests, hardly set the grid on fire though did they? (Though Jos certainly tried in the pit lane!)
SPRITERACER said:
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By the way, testing times - Vallelunga (day three):
1. Juan Caceres Minardi-Cosworth 1min 21.019secs
2. Katherine Legge Minardi-Cosworth 1min 21.176secs
3. Chanoch Nissany Minardi-Cosworth 1min 24.65secs
Not bad considering Nissany is the regular test driver.
Whilst I appreciate Katherine's skill at the wheel of an Atlantic, having raced one myself, I think that we can rest assured that she is not 3 seconds faster than Chanoch.
I dare say that the likes of Schumacher and co. would be unable to lap anywhere near 3 seconds faster than Chanock, assuming equal equipment and conditions.
am I mis reading this e-mail?
Caceres went 3.61 seconds faster than him so why couldn't Katherine? Schumacher or any half decent driver go three seconds faster than Chanock?
I think the point being made is that Chanock must've had a problem, maybe rain?
iaint said:
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By the way, testing times - Vallelunga (day three):
1. Juan Caceres Minardi-Cosworth 1min 21.019secs
2. Katherine Legge Minardi-Cosworth 1min 21.176secs
3. Chanoch Nissany Minardi-Cosworth 1min 24.65secs
Not bad considering Nissany is the regular test driver.
Whilst I appreciate Katherine's skill at the wheel of an Atlantic, having raced one myself, I think that we can rest assured that she is not 3 seconds faster than Chanoch.
I dare say that the likes of Schumacher and co. would be unable to lap anywhere near 3 seconds faster than Chanock, assuming equal equipment and conditions.
am I mis reading this e-mail?
Caceres went 3.61 seconds faster than him so why couldn't Katherine? Schumacher or any half decent driver go three seconds faster than Chanock?
I think the point being made is that Chanock must've had a problem, maybe rain?
Nope, looks like he was just doing his normal "pay to test driver old bloke wants to drive an f1 car" job really, and good on him for it! Just wondered why no other driver could lap three seconds a lap faster than him, he has hardly set the racing world alight
Erm, so all of a sudden an off in a race car has automatically become thr drivers fault? Race cars suddenly never break? Does anyone here actually know why she went off on lap 2? I've read the reason, just wonder if anyone else has bothered to find out or has just posted out of total ignorance?
I don't know what to make of the comments made here. Are any of you guys serious, or just taking the piss? Loads of drivers test F1 cars each year, virtually none of them get a mention here, yet as soon as a girl steps into one we're up to two pages. Amazing.
Nowt like the armchair warrior, is there?
I don't know what to make of the comments made here. Are any of you guys serious, or just taking the piss? Loads of drivers test F1 cars each year, virtually none of them get a mention here, yet as soon as a girl steps into one we're up to two pages. Amazing.
Nowt like the armchair warrior, is there?
I would just like to point out that my intentions of posting the link in the first place were more to draw attention to her progress than to laugh at her inadequacies (perceived or otherwise).
It is brilliant to see another female moving up in motorsport, especially a Brit and I wish her every success.
I would also like to point out something no-one seems to have touched on, what with the focus being so strong on gender. She was driving a Minardi, so it's a miracle she managed to keep it on the road at all
It is brilliant to see another female moving up in motorsport, especially a Brit and I wish her every success.
I would also like to point out something no-one seems to have touched on, what with the focus being so strong on gender. She was driving a Minardi, so it's a miracle she managed to keep it on the road at all
Not quite sure how one thought the title "Legge crashes on F1 testing debut" was going to project a positive upon the whole thing but still...
Frankly this thread is typical of our British attitude to anyone doing anything of sporting merit - we seem to love it for 5 minutes when someone gets a break then can't wait to piss on their bonfire.
Its a great pity and without doubt if just half the knockers had as much commitment then at least the critism could be taken on board - the fact that most are office jotter blotters means it winds the do'ers up.
Frankly this thread is typical of our British attitude to anyone doing anything of sporting merit - we seem to love it for 5 minutes when someone gets a break then can't wait to piss on their bonfire.
Its a great pity and without doubt if just half the knockers had as much commitment then at least the critism could be taken on board - the fact that most are office jotter blotters means it winds the do'ers up.
I'll drink to that! Frik said:
Not quite sure how one thought the title "Legge crashes on F1 testing debut" was going to project a positive upon the whole thing but still...
Did they also have the sub heading "women drivers eh
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2 Smokin Barrels said:That was to promote discussion
Not quite sure how one thought the title "Legge crashes on F1 testing debut" was going to project a positive upon the whole thing but still...
Did they also have the sub heading "women drivers eh
Result!
SPRITERACER said:
Whilst I appreciate Katherine's skill at the wheel of an Atlantic, having raced one myself, I think that we can rest assured that she is not 3 seconds faster than Chanoch.
I dare say that the likes of Schumacher and co. would be unable to lap anywhere near 3 seconds faster than Chanock, assuming equal equipment and conditions.
am I mis reading this e-mail?
Caceres went 3.61 seconds faster than him so why couldn't Katherine? Schumacher or any half decent driver go three seconds faster than Chanock?
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I would assume, often a dangerous thing to do, that a test driver would be able to lap at a decent pace.
The fact that two drivers got the car around the track three seconds faster either shows that he is ineffectual as a test driver, or indeed was not up to speed.
Three seconds is a long time, and surely if Cannock was getting anything near the potential out of the car, even Shumi or Alonso would have found it well nigh impossible to go three seconds faster.
I'm not knocking anyone here.
hammerwerfer said:
I would assume, often a dangerous thing to do, that a test driver would be able to lap at a decent pace.
The fact that two drivers got the car around the track three seconds faster either shows that he is ineffectual as a test driver, or indeed was not up to speed.
Three seconds is a long time, and surely if Cannock was getting anything near the potential out of the car, even Shumi or Alonso would have found it well nigh impossible to go three seconds faster.
I'm not knocking anyone here.
This is a strange because Nissany (or Stirling Mossad, as is his nickname) is not a true 'test driver' in the sense of say, Franck Montagny at Renault.
Nissany is about 44 years old, and has been racing since about 2002. He made a lot of money as a businessman, and his role of a 'tester' could more accurately be described as someone who is fulfulling his dream. The money he brought to Minardi last year was literally the difference between them completing the season, or going bust, but he is not to be taken as the benchmark driver in the Minardi, not by any means. That's not knocking him, the guy has my ultimate respect for at least keeping the team afloat via his $$$,$$$,$$$'s, but if any of the other drivers being tested were slower than Nissany I think there would have been serious questions asked!!!
Just my 2p worth...
i think many peoples opinion of this event is two fold. firstly, she did very well racing in the states this year and got the F1 test. Whether it was deserved or not is now irrelevant as the event has happened. Secondly, there are a lot of other drivers out there who deserve the same chance. Danny Watts and Alvaro Parente are two of of a list of twenty i could name.
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