Another reason F1's mangement are clearly mad
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RobbieMeister said:
OK, you've got your way, there are 15 teams, that's 9 more cars, 9 more drivers, 9 more transporters, 100+ more mechanics and about 500 more hangers on.
Where are you going to put them?
Ditto
Some teams at Monaco have to work from a multistory carpark, most proper circuits have extra pit garages anyway to cope with the larger number of competitors in national F3, GP2, various touring cars and many other classes. Whilst others can very easily provide extra garaging (think of the long run in or run out of the pits at places like Suzuka) Spa has double the necessary pit boxes if you inlcude the ones down the hill to Eau Rouge.
It'd be easier to cater for the extra cars, the great circuits of the 1970-1990's managed it.
groomi said:I don't think that Barrichello would say this evening that Super Aguri are irrelevant, as he contemplates how Ide's inadvertently blocking him put him 16th on the grid, whilst his teammate is on pole.
Then look at MF1 and Super Aguri, don't really need another six like that swaning about at the back.
Why not? At the moment Super Aguri are so far behind everyone that they are irrelevent.
flemke said:Rubens has been off the pace all season so far... it's down to more that just been blocked through a couple of corners!
Then look at MF1 and Super Aguri, don't really need another six like that swaning about at the back.
Why not? At the moment Super Aguri are so far behind everyone that they are irrelevent.
RobbieMeister said:Irrelevant... any small new team coming into the pit lane will not have a Ferrari / McLaren / Williams / Renault size ego... they will just be happy to be there rubbing shoulders whilst they try to get established.
My mum managed with no bathroom and an outside toilet for years but it doesn't mean it would be acceptable today.
Whatever, time will tell as to how it all turns out.
Plus, as already pointed out, most circuits can cater for more cars already.... and it's only due to the extreme cost of F1 in the last decade that the field has been decimated down to the current low number of entrants.
fozzi said:Quite so. I'm not suggesting that, if it weren't for Ide, RB would be 2nd on the grid tomorrow.
Rubens has been off the pace all season so far... it's down to more that just been blocked through a couple of corners!
I was simply observing that even the least competitive backmarkers can be relevant to the outcome.
flemke said:Fair enough, can't argue with that... and let's face it, things would be pretty boring if only potential race winners were allowed on the circuit.
Rubens has been off the pace all season so far... it's down to more that just been blocked through a couple of corners!
I was simply observing that even the least competitive backmarkers can be relevant to the outcome.
is it not the fact that there are lots of good teams out there who could run an F!1 team really well but costs prohibit them from doing so. i'm sure tahts a reason why F3000 died. Many of the GP2 teams are accomplished teams who could do a good job in F1 but perhaps prefer to survive rather than burn out.
number 7 said:
I think the dropping of the $48M bond requirement has brought out the speculators. What's a place in the queue worth, or even, if you are lucky enough, an actual entry? And does F1 really want a repeat of the Prost & Arrows fiascos? Makes the whole thing look unprofessional IMHO.
7.
Hallelujah, finally someone comes out with the correct answer. Rest assured that Max will draft or have already (knowing him) drafted a set of regulations designed to weed out the Simteks from the STRs, the Pacifics from the MF1s and the Andrea Modas from the...actually they never did count did they?
For starters, they'll have to have a base from which to run their team from. That's why Stoddie kept Ledbury and why McLaren have held onto Woking. As DR is finding out, it isn't easy to persuade your neighbours that a new F1 facility in their back garden is fine and dandy. If Renault want to exit - they are well prepared to do so, as I have said elsewhere on this forum.
IIRC Max seems to think that an F1 team ought to be competitive on a budget of at least US$50m per annum - so they'll have to show him that they have funding in place for, say 5 years, to that tune...
Finally, let's be honest here, Shnaider is not stupid - his purchase of Jordan will have been motivated by what was going to happen in 2008 and as a result, he'll be able to sell his team and turn a nice profit - a race circuit on his doorstep, a decent windtunnel not far away - he'll have to beat the buyers away with a stick!
flemke said:
he'll have to beat the buyers away with a stick!
ooh a Russian story - could I tell you one or two of those!....as it happens, he could well end up flogging MF1 to an old mate
number 7 said:
I think the dropping of the $48M bond requirement has brought out the speculators. What's a place in the queue worth, or even, if you are lucky enough, an actual entry? And does F1 really want a repeat of the Prost & Arrows fiascos? Makes the whole thing look unprofessional IMHO.
7.
I reckon the other teams that have applied for entry are either as you say mere speculators or maybe= just token entrys who are submitting entrys simply to have a say in the formation of the new regulations and have no intention of racing therfore ensuring that a certain couple of gentlemen get there way in the way that the rules and regs are shaped.
I'll give you a clue who those 2 chaps may be. Well one of them is rather short and the other used to be a lawyer.
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