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Did anyone else hear the pit to car radio from renault to Fisi. Went along the lines of 'Giancarlo, Alonso is running 2 seconds a lap faster than you on the same fuel load and tyres. This is unacceptable, sort it out'
DOesn't bode well for Fisi, seems he's destined never to fulfil the potential he once appeared to have.
Rather an Alesi-type figure, Commentators rave about him, like JPM, but he never quite pulls it out. (actually for us brits rather like JB too!!)
The fact that Fisi got his bollocking over an open radio net and live on ITV1 must be hugely embarassing...
DOesn't bode well for Fisi, seems he's destined never to fulfil the potential he once appeared to have.
Rather an Alesi-type figure, Commentators rave about him, like JPM, but he never quite pulls it out. (actually for us brits rather like JB too!!)
The fact that Fisi got his bollocking over an open radio net and live on ITV1 must be hugely embarassing...
Marki, you're right! I spent a lot of time in my youth hanging around the Lola factory in Huntingdon, and all the people there, as i'm sure they do elsewhere, refer to drivers as 'the soft bit in the middle'. General opinion being that they are egos in helmets, often responsible for messing things up, and if the cars could run without drivers they all be much happier!
Perhaps Coulthard was told to get past Speed after we'd earlier seen Liuzzi storm past M SChumi down a straight, think that RBR/Toro Rosso might be concerned about having their v10s futher limited....
Apparently Scott Speed was none too polite to Coulthard in the driver's briefing after the race, he's been fined $5000 for abusing another driver!
Apparently Scott Speed was none too polite to Coulthard in the driver's briefing after the race, he's been fined $5000 for abusing another driver!
When I worked in the States. We were informed by the Championship organisers that spectators could rent radios to listen to team radios, with a list of teams and their frequencies. We were told that swearing on radio was a fineable offence. Thankfully The Yanks don't understand the word Wa*ker.
beda said:
The fact that Fisi got his bollocking over an open radio net and live on ITV1 must be hugely embarassing...
That was very unfortunate. I think they overlooked the fact that Fisi did a good job of driving around their own dodgy clutch problems by starting from the pit lane and finishing 5th. Credit where it's due, please Renault.
jacobyte said:
beda said:
The fact that Fisi got his bollocking over an open radio net and live on ITV1 must be hugely embarassing...
That was very unfortunate. I think they overlooked the fact that Fisi did a good job of driving around their own dodgy clutch problems by starting from the pit lane and finishing 5th. Credit where it's due, please Renault.
...and the fact that he won the last race...
Lets not forget the drivers are getting paid a huge sum of money to do there job. If you were paid that much and didn't perform I'm sure you would get a roasting as well!! The only way they can communicate to the drivers is on the open frequency and in the heat of the race the last thing the engineer will be thinking about is the hole world listening in.
The fact is 2 seconds a lap is huge in F1 terms. Alonso is just able to totally out perform his fellow drivers at times especially if the car is not perfect. The same happened with trulli, A race did not go buy with out Allen shouting at him down the radio due to comparative lack of pace.
The two car crew's are also very competitive so if there driver is a lot slower than the other it reflects on the job the have done with the car!
>> Edited by ngr on Monday 3rd April 09:15
The fact is 2 seconds a lap is huge in F1 terms. Alonso is just able to totally out perform his fellow drivers at times especially if the car is not perfect. The same happened with trulli, A race did not go buy with out Allen shouting at him down the radio due to comparative lack of pace.
The two car crew's are also very competitive so if there driver is a lot slower than the other it reflects on the job the have done with the car!
>> Edited by ngr on Monday 3rd April 09:15
Marki said:
Also the pit to car message to Coulthard(i think)reffering to the car he was close behind
" You MUST get past him YOU MUST GET PAST HIM"
Now i am sure David was aware of this fact
I thought at the time that this was some kind of coded message that Speed was going to be told to let him past, given that team orders are banned and inter team orders certainly are Speed finished ahead of him though, so I guess not
I was quite surprised that Schumacher didn't take the opportunity to try and cause trouble for another team when he was asked if the Torro Rossos had an unfair advantage after one dared overtake him while he was 5s a lap off the pace too... What a monumentally stupid question anyway, he wasn't much faster than Sato in a Super Aguri at that stage.
Jungles said:No, they shouldn't. He's a driver being paid (very well, I'm sure) to do a job at perform at the highest level of the racing ladder. When his team mate is cruising along two seconds a lap faster, he needs a kick up the arse. The best way to do that was to tell him to get a wriggle on. They did. So it was live on the TV as well? So what, if he hadn't have been tossing about he wouldn't have got the call.
Drivers, like any other top athletes, need prodding from their coaches/bosses to perform at their peak. But to do that over open radio was not good.
Fisi won Malaysia, so they should cut him some slack.
Funny how his car seemed to magically get faster in the closing stages of the race. Hasn't he done this before? didn't he set fastest lap of the race at a GP last year when he was tugging about during the rest of it? Or was that someone else?
d-man said:
I was quite surprised that Schumacher didn't take the opportunity to try and cause trouble for another team when he was asked if the Torro Rossos had an unfair advantage after one dared overtake him while he was 5s a lap off the pace too... What a monumentally stupid question anyway, he wasn't much faster than Sato in a Super Aguri at that stage.
I also noted this, I suspect had it been any other team he would have done. Torro Rosso / Red Bull give Ferrari (already the most powerful team in the paddock) even more power. Very clever move suppling engines to Torro Rosso, effectivly giving them the voting rights of all 3 teams!
There is even talk of Schumacher running a team when he retires from driving!
SKR said:
Torro Rosso / Red Bull give Ferrari (already the most powerful team in the paddock) even more power. Very clever move suppling engines to Torro Rosso, effectivly giving them the voting rights of all 3 teams!
Torro Rosso have Cosworth engines this year but I agree with your point
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