If Silverstone really want the 24 hour to work.....
Discussion
Permission to speak sir?
All of this arguing to and fro about the BRDC/SCL vs Camping vs JT vs other codswallop is getting rather fraught. Now, after a G&T or three, looking at this most logically, and of currently unbiassed (I won't be at the 24hrs unless I can find another 9-10K) opinion....
Mr Tucker pays Silverstone Circuits Ltd (a company wholly owned by the BRDC who ARE Silverstone) a rental fee for the use of the facility, excluding the BRDC Club House (and most of the toilets!).
People paying to come in through the gate pay money which goes to.... Silverstone Circuits Ltd, not to Mr James Tucker.
Logic states that persons wishing to come to Silverstone in their droves will swell the coffers of Messrs SCL to the point where they are able to rent more bomber-jacketed gentlemen & laydeees from Events Management to keep the pissheads from trampling Mrs Smith's prize begonias, and ensure that no impromptu raves occur.
They could designate easy to police zones for one's bivouac erection, keeping it all on the infield - say in the area between Copse & Maggots.
In this way we're all happy. The happy campers in their droves have come in to help swell SCL's bank balance, which means they can spend more than £25M on new toilet paper and a palace for Mr & Mrs Ecclestone, and perhaps one new pair of trousers each for Mr Hill and the associated board of the BRDC from Matalan.
A thorougly win-win situation.
All it needs is that strange word in UK Motorsport - P R O M O T I O N.
And that doesn't mean a two line ad in Autosport. I mean the media of the great unwashed. Full page ads in the Daily Rag, advert's on the box (no, not on Motors TV, or a 4am on Channel 5).
I feel that the race should be a Silverstone, and to my feeling it should be a joint venture between Mr Tucker and the BRDC. James has started the ball rolling again, and rolling it most certainly is.
You know I speak the truth.
Now, where's that 10K...
Rob.
All of this arguing to and fro about the BRDC/SCL vs Camping vs JT vs other codswallop is getting rather fraught. Now, after a G&T or three, looking at this most logically, and of currently unbiassed (I won't be at the 24hrs unless I can find another 9-10K) opinion....
Mr Tucker pays Silverstone Circuits Ltd (a company wholly owned by the BRDC who ARE Silverstone) a rental fee for the use of the facility, excluding the BRDC Club House (and most of the toilets!).
People paying to come in through the gate pay money which goes to.... Silverstone Circuits Ltd, not to Mr James Tucker.
Logic states that persons wishing to come to Silverstone in their droves will swell the coffers of Messrs SCL to the point where they are able to rent more bomber-jacketed gentlemen & laydeees from Events Management to keep the pissheads from trampling Mrs Smith's prize begonias, and ensure that no impromptu raves occur.
They could designate easy to police zones for one's bivouac erection, keeping it all on the infield - say in the area between Copse & Maggots.
In this way we're all happy. The happy campers in their droves have come in to help swell SCL's bank balance, which means they can spend more than £25M on new toilet paper and a palace for Mr & Mrs Ecclestone, and perhaps one new pair of trousers each for Mr Hill and the associated board of the BRDC from Matalan.
A thorougly win-win situation.
All it needs is that strange word in UK Motorsport - P R O M O T I O N.
And that doesn't mean a two line ad in Autosport. I mean the media of the great unwashed. Full page ads in the Daily Rag, advert's on the box (no, not on Motors TV, or a 4am on Channel 5).
I feel that the race should be a Silverstone, and to my feeling it should be a joint venture between Mr Tucker and the BRDC. James has started the ball rolling again, and rolling it most certainly is.
You know I speak the truth.
Now, where's that 10K...
Rob.
Isn`t it funny, from the simplest of minds come the wisest of words. Do you know I don`t even think it would take a fortune in advertising. A few minutes spent hitting the various marques on here and the owner`s clubs and hey presto, job`s a good `un.
Now back to my jacuzzi......
Would it be rude to operate a strictly topless gate policy on the entry to said jacuzzi?
For safety`s sake we would also have to have a driver present in the tub at all times (the seat rates have just gone through the roof !!).
Form an orderly queue gents.
Photographic rights are with PaulJC, the teams official jacuzzi snapper.
Henry
Now back to my jacuzzi......
Would it be rude to operate a strictly topless gate policy on the entry to said jacuzzi?
For safety`s sake we would also have to have a driver present in the tub at all times (the seat rates have just gone through the roof !!).
Form an orderly queue gents.
Photographic rights are with PaulJC, the teams official jacuzzi snapper.
Henry
why does the famous 24 hours get big numbers attending? Simple ask the public I did and a majority of them said its the cars, Sports cars that are a whole lot quicker than what we have in the britcar series. Its just not quick enough or interesting enough for spectators. But as we all know its a different story in the pit lane.
Pawsher said:
why does the famous 24 hours get big numbers attending? Simple ask the public I did and a majority of them said its the cars, Sports cars that are a whole lot quicker than what we have in the britcar series. Its just not quick enough or interesting enough for spectators. But as we all know its a different story in the pit lane.
Nope, not entirely. People go to Le Mans and the Nurburgring because it's a five-day party and piss up. People like the cars, sure, but they go for the atmosphere. Spectator numbers are a self-perpetuating problem. The more people are there, the better the atmosphere, so the more come the following year. It should be promoted as a great three-day party, with car racing. However I don't think JT has the ability to do it - or the cash. Perhaps a link up with the drifting people might be good? Anything to get people through the gate who'll enjoy themselves. As it is, the race is only of interest to drivers' families and real, hardcore enthusiasts (dare I say anoraks, because I'm one when I'm not actively involved), while the casual spectator has nothing to entice them through the gate.
The car issue is only minor. There are some quick and impressive cars out there, but the 102db noise limit ruins the atmosphere massively - we could barely hear our car last year.
The other issue is the commentary, in my opinion. Brian Jones, bless him and all he's done over the years, is hopeless at endurance racing. He barely knows any of the cars or the drivers and seemed to be watching a different race last year. Hindy was brilliant, as you'd expect, but he can't do the whole thing on his own. We need Graham Goodwin in the box with him and a few more in the pit lane.
I could go on for a while, but I'll stop there.
Izzy - not my words but team orders. Apparently some of the drivers (not myself of course) find it hard to perform in the Jacuzzi with a female snapper. From my own perspective I`d welcome the female input which may allow us to market the team to a female audience (actually having looked again at some of the drivers we may struggle a bit there) or indeed look to get the pink pound on board (I`m sure Mr Rance will take a hit for the troops on that one).
Alternatively grab a waterproof camera and hop in !
Training going well, body looking good - in a Rhys Ifans (Spike from Notting Hill) voice.
Henry
Alternatively grab a waterproof camera and hop in !
Training going well, body looking good - in a Rhys Ifans (Spike from Notting Hill) voice.
HenryAhonen said:
Pawsher said:
The other issue is the commentary, in my opinion. Brian Jones, bless him and all he's done over the years, is hopeless at endurance racing. He barely knows any of the cars or the drivers and seemed to be watching a different race last year. Hindy was brilliant, as you'd expect, but he can't do the whole thing on his own. We need Graham Goodwin in the box with him and a few more in the pit lane.
How can we go about doing this? Not sure if I'm helping any drivers this year so I don't mind ghosting the pitlane in pursuit of a story.Ahonen said:
Nope, not entirely. People go to Le Mans and the Nurburgring because it's a five-day party and piss up. People like the cars, sure, but they go for the atmosphere.
Spectator numbers are a self-perpetuating problem. The more people are there, the better the atmosphere, so the more come the following year. It should be promoted as a great three-day party, with car racing. However I don't think JT has the ability to do it - or the cash. Perhaps a link up with the drifting people might be good? Anything to get people through the gate who'll enjoy themselves. As it is, the race is only of interest to drivers' families and real, hardcore enthusiasts (dare I say anoraks, because I'm one when I'm not actively involved), while the casual spectator has nothing to entice them through the gate.
The car issue is only minor. There are some quick and impressive cars out there, but the 102db noise limit ruins the atmosphere massively - we could barely hear our car last year.
The other issue is the commentary, in my opinion. Brian Jones, bless him and all he's done over the years, is hopeless at endurance racing. He barely knows any of the cars or the drivers and seemed to be watching a different race last year. Hindy was brilliant, as you'd expect, but he can't do the whole thing on his own. We need Graham Goodwin in the box with him and a few more in the pit lane.
I could go on for a while, but I'll stop there.
I think you`re spot on with the party atmosphere which is why infield camping (or very accessible outfield camping) is essential.Spectator numbers are a self-perpetuating problem. The more people are there, the better the atmosphere, so the more come the following year. It should be promoted as a great three-day party, with car racing. However I don't think JT has the ability to do it - or the cash. Perhaps a link up with the drifting people might be good? Anything to get people through the gate who'll enjoy themselves. As it is, the race is only of interest to drivers' families and real, hardcore enthusiasts (dare I say anoraks, because I'm one when I'm not actively involved), while the casual spectator has nothing to entice them through the gate.
The car issue is only minor. There are some quick and impressive cars out there, but the 102db noise limit ruins the atmosphere massively - we could barely hear our car last year.
The other issue is the commentary, in my opinion. Brian Jones, bless him and all he's done over the years, is hopeless at endurance racing. He barely knows any of the cars or the drivers and seemed to be watching a different race last year. Hindy was brilliant, as you'd expect, but he can't do the whole thing on his own. We need Graham Goodwin in the box with him and a few more in the pit lane.
I could go on for a while, but I'll stop there.
As for the commentary I`ve always thought it has been very good, sure when you`re in the thick of it you know some of what they are saying is bollox, but you only need to pop your head in the commentary box to have a chat with them. Certainly it lets the spectators (who don`t have access to an MST screen) know what`s going on. The problem is can they hear it. At night the tannoy is turned off for noise regs. This year James has told me the commentary is being broadcast on radio and that is fantastic news as spectators can wander round with their earphones on and keep up with the action. It also allows them to be kept informed of any entertainment that`s being laid on.
Henry
Henry-F said:
This year James has told me the commentary is being broadcast on radio and that is fantastic news as spectators can wander round with their earphones on and keep up with the action. It also allows them to be kept informed of any entertainment that`s being laid on.
It was broadcast on radio last year too It was essential to keep up with things when the cars disappeared into the fog for 4 hours
I had to park the car outside in 2005 and it wasn't much fun trailing back & forth to get stuff / grab an hour's sleep etc. Last year, thanks to a friend on the inside i got the car inside the circuit. It made the whole race much more enjoyable as i managed to move around the circuit a bit more.
They could do with sorting out the webpage for the 24hour race as well...
Its not easy to woo a sponsor when
http://eerc.co.uk/cms/e107_plugins/calendar_menu/e...
gives you no information at all...
and if you google the britcar 24 you get this...
http://www.eerc.co.uk/24hrsite/
which is last years site
Its not easy to woo a sponsor when
http://eerc.co.uk/cms/e107_plugins/calendar_menu/e...
gives you no information at all...
and if you google the britcar 24 you get this...
http://www.eerc.co.uk/24hrsite/
which is last years site
Henry, The B.R.D.C. own Silverstone Circuit, if you owned it you would be classed as a millionaire, right, Beleive me its all about the other Who Ray Henrys controlling their respectable ( and protecting it ) space, about 700 acres of it , I know from several years experience. Money "no object" watch that space, Harley biker , "mind that bike "..... Knibbo.
MonkeyHanger said:
Henry-F said:
I had to park the car outside in 2005 and it wasn't much fun trailing back & forth to get stuff / grab an hour's sleep etc. Last year, thanks to a friend on the inside i got the car inside the circuit. It made the whole race much more enjoyable as i managed to move around the circuit a bit more.
. There is no official campsite inside the track, but quite a few close by.I think we're all used to having it too easy (me included!)
Fancy breakfast on Dunlop before taking a tour from Birmingham to Silverstone...........
http://www.driversknow.co.uk/tour24/
Tickets available at Dunlop on the saturday morning.
It's the Brumball!
http://www.driversknow.co.uk/tour24/
Tickets available at Dunlop on the saturday morning.
It's the Brumball!
There is a camping field opposite the circuit entrance ! however surely if its such a big issue join Silverstone!s Marshalls, do some work (perhaps) free lectric and water, loos too, at the inside ajacent to Abbey, prob: solved, you may still have to get past the Sstone hiracy!!! Of course camaflarge is always a risky option unless you do B.R.G.and use a Cooper Bristol shape tent, silly answer, but makes a nice change to this boreing topic. my call sign at Sstone..Diesel 1. who knows me then ?.
Just to put an alternative angle on things; if you are Mr & Mrs J Public, living within striking distance of Northants, perhaps mildly interested in motorsport but with no particular allegiance, and have enough money for one meeting in September, are you more likely to go to:
http://www.silverstone.co.uk/php/rm_britCar.php
or
http://www.silverstone.co.uk/php/rm_leMansSeries.p...
or
http://www.motorfest.co.uk/index.htm
One of these I learned about from the local press several weeks ago in an article that mentioned that they were hoping to attract 40k spectators. The same event offers camping, bands, and late bars. Is there a potential lesson here?
http://www.silverstone.co.uk/php/rm_britCar.php
or
http://www.silverstone.co.uk/php/rm_leMansSeries.p...
or
http://www.motorfest.co.uk/index.htm
One of these I learned about from the local press several weeks ago in an article that mentioned that they were hoping to attract 40k spectators. The same event offers camping, bands, and late bars. Is there a potential lesson here?
Edited by renkadima on Tuesday 14th August 11:48
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