Nascar - Road Courses - Brilliant
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Did anyone see the Nascar Race at Watkins Glen the other Night? - Brilliant.
The commentators thought so too. They should run on these track alot more, than the deathly dull Ovals (I tried watching these this year - recorded in the early morning but after 5 or 6 on fast forward gave up as they were as dull as F1 (if that is possible)).
Huge V8 Engined very similiar cars on road course are just the Nuts - V8 Supercars Awesome too.
REAL RACING. Some of the Nascar driver are Brilliant drivers and are wasted over there - but they get paid so well!
Gordon, Stewart, Harvick, Ernhart Jr, etc, etc, etc.
The commentators thought so too. They should run on these track alot more, than the deathly dull Ovals (I tried watching these this year - recorded in the early morning but after 5 or 6 on fast forward gave up as they were as dull as F1 (if that is possible)).
Huge V8 Engined very similiar cars on road course are just the Nuts - V8 Supercars Awesome too.
REAL RACING. Some of the Nascar driver are Brilliant drivers and are wasted over there - but they get paid so well!
Gordon, Stewart, Harvick, Ernhart Jr, etc, etc, etc.
jellison said:
Did anyone see the Nascar Race at Watkins Glen the other Night? - Brilliant.
Ovals (I tried watching these this year - recorded in the early morning but after 5 or 6 on fast forward gave up as they were as dull as F1).
Yep it was a good race, though I thought it was good because, erm, of the "mix" of abilities of the drivers, as much as anything.Ovals (I tried watching these this year - recorded in the early morning but after 5 or 6 on fast forward gave up as they were as dull as F1).
Give the Ovals another try, I recommend Bristol. The "super-speedways" or "restrictor-plate races" as they call them over there are admittedly an aquired taste, but the short track driving is amazing. It's like the M25 at 160 Miles an Hour, with a lot of money at stake.
Me, I'm utterly grateful that Setanta are televising both Busch and Cup races in th UK, after a few early hic-coughs this year.
. Will be interesting to see what effect the new banking has.
another vote for Bristol I have been to Charlotte, Darlington but I keep going back! 160,000 thousand fans being deafened by 43 cars charging round a 1/2 mile oval every time I go I am deaf for about 3 days afterwards! save your money and go enjoy Bristol you will not be disapointed
Steve
Steve
Bristol - If you can a ticket! Been trying for ages even with connection!
Hottest ticket in NASCAR - even more so than Daytona frontstretch.
Give me Talladega any day anyway.
Sort tracks can be too much stop start - superspeedways not always clean either - the 'big one' always around the corner!
But three wide coming off the banking!!!
Four or five years ago we had a 500 mile race 43 cars no yellows - awesome!!!!
10th anniversary trip in October - can't wait!
Hottest ticket in NASCAR - even more so than Daytona frontstretch.
Give me Talladega any day anyway.
Sort tracks can be too much stop start - superspeedways not always clean either - the 'big one' always around the corner!
But three wide coming off the banking!!!
Four or five years ago we had a 500 mile race 43 cars no yellows - awesome!!!!
10th anniversary trip in October - can't wait!
wicked, been to Texas , Phoenix . Daytona and Homestead Miami, want to go to Bristol and see some pushing and shoving.Most of these guys can drive just about any thing round an oval or road course and yep why race f1 when they earn just about the same money as those guys and each week nearly a different driver wins.Come on Matt Kenseth and Carl Edwards Jack Roush needs another championship for Ford!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Agree that road courses make a change but nothing beats the ovals it's where the racin' comes from. Been attending the sport for years and Bristol is the best, have been to the spring and August races a few times. Don't forget Martinsville it runs Bristol a close second.Good to see the sport getting a mention on here. What number you guys follow?
No. 8 rules ( until end of this year anyway ).
No. 8 rules ( until end of this year anyway ).
You can add my name on the list! I bloody love NASCAR!
Apart from liberal use of full course yellows what's there to dislike about NASCAR on road courses? They're a petrolhead's dream!
Big noisey V8s, not much grip (compared to GTs), no fancy electronics or in-car adjustments - its pure driver skill. The in-car-pedal-cam is the highlight for any NASCAR road race!
Anyone here catch the Busch race in Montreal/Circuit Gilles Villeneuve the other week? Crazy race or what!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC0XBfly_qc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQiH_ZZBC7M
Apart from liberal use of full course yellows what's there to dislike about NASCAR on road courses? They're a petrolhead's dream!
Big noisey V8s, not much grip (compared to GTs), no fancy electronics or in-car adjustments - its pure driver skill. The in-car-pedal-cam is the highlight for any NASCAR road race!
Anyone here catch the Busch race in Montreal/Circuit Gilles Villeneuve the other week? Crazy race or what!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC0XBfly_qc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQiH_ZZBC7M
jellison said:
The main event races is enough for me - ya will give short ovals another try - imagine them at Rockingham (the UK ONE!).
Gordon should have been in F1 years ago - but the racing to so sh*t - he made the right choice.
At the time that he tested, quite impressively, with Williams, they said that they would not pursue signing him because they could not afford him.Gordon should have been in F1 years ago - but the racing to so sh*t - he made the right choice.
flemke said:
jellison said:
The main event races is enough for me - ya will give short ovals another try - imagine them at Rockingham (the UK ONE!).
Gordon should have been in F1 years ago - but the racing to so sh*t - he made the right choice.
At the time that he tested, quite impressively, with Williams, they said that they would not pursue signing him because they could not afford him.Gordon should have been in F1 years ago - but the racing to so sh*t - he made the right choice.
Kimi and Alonso next........
wow - some action !
when are the yanks going to learn that it's all about road racing - hell I'd watch it every week if they ran on road circuits !
when are the yanks going to learn that it's all about road racing - hell I'd watch it every week if they ran on road circuits !
entropy said:
You can add my name on the list! I bloody love NASCAR!
Apart from liberal use of full course yellows what's there to dislike about NASCAR on road courses? They're a petrolhead's dream!
Big noisey V8s, not much grip (compared to GTs), no fancy electronics or in-car adjustments - its pure driver skill. The in-car-pedal-cam is the highlight for any NASCAR road race!
Anyone here catch the Busch race in Montreal/Circuit Gilles Villeneuve the other week? Crazy race or what!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC0XBfly_qc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQiH_ZZBC7M
Apart from liberal use of full course yellows what's there to dislike about NASCAR on road courses? They're a petrolhead's dream!
Big noisey V8s, not much grip (compared to GTs), no fancy electronics or in-car adjustments - its pure driver skill. The in-car-pedal-cam is the highlight for any NASCAR road race!
Anyone here catch the Busch race in Montreal/Circuit Gilles Villeneuve the other week? Crazy race or what!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC0XBfly_qc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQiH_ZZBC7M
Edited by woof on Tuesday 21st August 11:04
Last race at Riverside, 1988 (12 parts):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzV8vy-1yRc
Dan Gurney had a monopoly at Riverside, here's the 1963 win:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV8Tc9h9Vc0
There were all sorts of stories at the time. Gordon said he would've made the move to F1 under similar circumstances if it was ten years ago.
He's established himself in NASCAR and its where the money is in American motorsports - AJ Allmendinger is wasting himself in NASCAR (under Red Bull Toyota) and Scott Speed looks like he'll be in NASCAR as well.
All in all, its still a shame it never went any further.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzV8vy-1yRc
Dan Gurney had a monopoly at Riverside, here's the 1963 win:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV8Tc9h9Vc0
flemke said:
jellison said:
The main event races is enough for me - ya will give short ovals another try - imagine them at Rockingham (the UK ONE!).
Gordon should have been in F1 years ago - but the racing to so sh*t - he made the right choice.
At the time that he tested, quite impressively, with Williams, they said that they would not pursue signing him because they could not afford him.Gordon should have been in F1 years ago - but the racing to so sh*t - he made the right choice.
He's established himself in NASCAR and its where the money is in American motorsports - AJ Allmendinger is wasting himself in NASCAR (under Red Bull Toyota) and Scott Speed looks like he'll be in NASCAR as well.
All in all, its still a shame it never went any further.
jellison said:
The main event races is enough for me - ya will give short ovals another try - imagine them at Rockingham (the UK ONE!).
Did you come to Rockingham this last weekend?The ASCAR's did two races back to back IN THE SUNSHINE!!!!
The day was ruined in the end by some self important Fiesta racers who thought that they should have been allowed to race when the road course was dangerously wet, and their actions also prevented the final PickUpTruck race from going ahead on the oval.
Next round - 14/15 September - "Motorfest"
And YES - we need some real NASCAR over here in Blighty! Be that on the Oval at the Rock, or on Brands GP circuit (though the pits are not up to NASCAR standard (too narrow)) - then bring it on!
thunderbelmont said:
jellison said:
imagine them at Rockingham (the UK ONE!).
Did you come to Rockingham this last weekend?The ASCAR's did two races back to back IN THE SUNSHINE!!!!
The day was ruined in the end by some self important Fiesta racers who thought that they should have been allowed to race when the road course was dangerously wet, and their actions also prevented the final PickUpTruck race from going ahead on the oval.
And YES - we need some real NASCAR over here in Blighty! Be that on the Oval at the Rock, or on Brands GP circuit (though the pits are not up to NASCAR standard (too narrow)) - then bring it on!
What did these Fiesta burks get up to then?
During the Mill Street Motors Ford Saloons, the heavens opened - big time!
Lakes on the track at Tarzan, river running through PifPaf, and other standing water on the infield track.
They started the Fiesta's green flag lap, but red flagged it before they got to Tarzan, so they could pull them back into the paddock.
Some of the Fiesta drivers took it upon themselves to blockade the tunnel exiting the inner paddock, and then legged it through the inner paddock, through the cold & hot pitlane, over the pit wall, and onto the start straight (a LIVE circuit) where they set about hurling abuse at Ian Chalmers the Starter/Flag man (talk about shooting the messenger!)
Various officials - including the CofC, and Iain Brown of the BRSCC, came down to sort out the protest.
After the Pickups had to be cancelled, some of their drivers made their way to the "protest", but were headed off by Sonny Howard - the man behind Pickup Truck Racing, before it could escalate.
The upshot of it all, their protest lasted until after 5pm, which meant that the final race had to be cancelled, as well as the Dees.co.uk Fiesta race.
The BRSCC have issued a statement that the Pickup racers will be compensated for the loss of their race, the Fiesta drivers that protested on a LIVE track have been reported to the MSA for sanction. The Fiesta drivers that did not protest will have a portion of their entry fee returned.
Pickup Truck Racing Ltd lost money because they had paid for TV coverage of the race, including a NASCAR style wall mounted camera on the exit of Turn 3, and multiple car cameras.
It'll be interesting if Autosport put anything in this week's mag. They don't normally bother with anything other than a two line report.
Lakes on the track at Tarzan, river running through PifPaf, and other standing water on the infield track.
They started the Fiesta's green flag lap, but red flagged it before they got to Tarzan, so they could pull them back into the paddock.
Some of the Fiesta drivers took it upon themselves to blockade the tunnel exiting the inner paddock, and then legged it through the inner paddock, through the cold & hot pitlane, over the pit wall, and onto the start straight (a LIVE circuit) where they set about hurling abuse at Ian Chalmers the Starter/Flag man (talk about shooting the messenger!)
Various officials - including the CofC, and Iain Brown of the BRSCC, came down to sort out the protest.
After the Pickups had to be cancelled, some of their drivers made their way to the "protest", but were headed off by Sonny Howard - the man behind Pickup Truck Racing, before it could escalate.
The upshot of it all, their protest lasted until after 5pm, which meant that the final race had to be cancelled, as well as the Dees.co.uk Fiesta race.
The BRSCC have issued a statement that the Pickup racers will be compensated for the loss of their race, the Fiesta drivers that protested on a LIVE track have been reported to the MSA for sanction. The Fiesta drivers that did not protest will have a portion of their entry fee returned.
Pickup Truck Racing Ltd lost money because they had paid for TV coverage of the race, including a NASCAR style wall mounted camera on the exit of Turn 3, and multiple car cameras.
It'll be interesting if Autosport put anything in this week's mag. They don't normally bother with anything other than a two line report.
Blimey.
Mind I can almost see where they are coming from having can red flags in pissing conditions, but laps later than the heavy rain (with us cruising round and spinning off in inches of water) just so that we have done more than 1/2 distance and they do not have to give any portion of the entry fee back.
Mind this does sound EXTREME and the sound like Cretins to take it that far.
http://teamdangerous.com/carspec.html BLOODY HELL!!
Mind I can almost see where they are coming from having can red flags in pissing conditions, but laps later than the heavy rain (with us cruising round and spinning off in inches of water) just so that we have done more than 1/2 distance and they do not have to give any portion of the entry fee back.
Mind this does sound EXTREME and the sound like Cretins to take it that far.
http://teamdangerous.com/carspec.html BLOODY HELL!!
Edited by jellison on Wednesday 22 August 09:44
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