Hamilton's Tyres - Certainly not legal tread depth!! ;-)

[ELAN+2]

Regional said:

Would someone like to explain to me how this is rigged?
Does Bernie have a red telephone that he uses to call the team managers to demand that they tell their drivers to do certain things?
I can just imagine him sitting there stroking a cat with a bejewelled hand shouting down his red phone "just one more lap Ron, one more lap"

I couldn't believe my eyes by the way, and almost found it funny when one of the ITV commentators said "he has a bit of paper on his tyres" - that'll be canvas Sir.

try this....Phone goes, "RD, speaking"

MAX:"Ron It's Max, If I dont get my nail biting finish in Brazil, you wont race next year"

RON: "like how are you going to do that?"

MAX: "Got carbon fibre on the car....like the Ferrari?....."

RON: " How the hell do you think I'm going to get the lad to throw it?"

MAX:" Fluff the pit stop, wrong tyres,not enough fuel, loose wheel nut....you know the procedure..."

RON: ""

on the radio....."lewis we're not sure about the weather, hang on for a couple more laps my boy"

and the rest as they saw is history


All a figment of my cynical mind, of course"

[molestrangler]

I think someone is pulling our plonkers @cos I cannot believe that happened.

[Barn]

i agree with Elan+2. Theres no way mclaren could be that stupid in such a vitally important race for both them and Hamilton. Your telling me they didnt no something was seriously wrong for lewis to be 5secs a lap down?! absolute b*llocks, its a fix. the tyres were down to the canvas, everyone could see that with their bear eyes, let alone all the computerised monitors etc that the team can look at on the car!! I'm just so annoyed at the politics in the sport, and so gutted for lewis!

Edited by Barn on Monday 8th October 12:41

[Conian]

Regional said:

I couldn't believe my eyes by the way, and almost found it funny when one of the ITV commentators said "he has a bit of paper on his tyres" - that'll be canvas Sir.

In all fairness to the dog awful sub standard ITV pundits... they did say something like..

"Is that some paper on the tire or is he through to the canvas? Yes he's through to the canavs..."

Just slow, not completely useless.
I know I can't believe it either

[Casino]

Conian said:

Regional said:

I couldn't believe my eyes by the way, and almost found it funny when one of the ITV commentators said "he has a bit of paper on his tyres" - that'll be canvas Sir.

In all fairness to the dog awful sub standard ITV pundits... they did say something like..

"Is that some paper on the tire or is he through to the canvas? Yes he's through to the canavs..."

Just slow, not completely useless.
I know I can't believe it either

At least they managed to draw the line at asking if he was using soft rear tyres(the white line). Got to say, HTV coverage(Hamilton TV) before the race started was just the limit. Lord help us if he wins next week.

Hamilton made no attempt at that corner, just like Shumi qualifying Monaco last year.
Somethings up someones decided ALL championships have to go down to the final race ...or dare I say ..the canvas.

F1 used to be sport. Its now meerly entertainment.

[timbob]

Casino said:

Hamilton made no attempt at that corner, just like Shumi qualifying Monaco last year.
Somethings up someones decided ALL championships have to go down to the final race ...or dare I say ..the canvas.

He made no steering effort at that corner, mainly as the back end of the car was coming around. Schumi last year blatantly steered straight and stopped next to the wall. Hamilton appeared to give the merest smidgen of a turn in, and the back came out... He instinctively straightened up to counter it, and ended up in the gravel.

But, fair play to the guy, he admitted that it was his mistake - knowing that his tyres were shot, he could have just pottered round that corner...he was going a bit quick!

[SuperKartRacer]

timbob said:

Casino said:

Hamilton made no attempt at that corner, just like Shumi qualifying Monaco last year.
Somethings up someones decided ALL championships have to go down to the final race ...or dare I say ..the canvas.

He made no steering effort at that corner, mainly as the back end of the car was coming around.

It's called understeer mate, no grip...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1LX8FVk1FY

[Digga]

ELAN+2 said:

Regional said:

Would someone like to explain to me how this is rigged?

try this....Phone goes, "RD, speaking"

MAX:"Ron It's Max, If I dont get my nail biting finish in Brazil, you wont race next year"

RON: "like how are you going to do that?"

MAX: "Got carbon fibre on the car....like the Ferrari?....."

RON: " How the hell do you think I'm going to get the lad to throw it?"

MAX:" Fluff the pit stop, wrong tyres,not enough fuel, loose wheel nut....you know the procedure..."

RON: ""

on the radio....."lewis we're not sure about the weather, hang on for a couple more laps my boy"

and the rest as they saw is history


All a figment of my cynical mind, of course"

And then a similar call to Williams:

MAX: Kubica is runnning well
BMW: Yes - we're hoping he can hold the place and score a win!

MAX: How's your budget for 2008; fancy $xx,xxx,xxx extra?
BMW: Er, yep.

MAX: Switch Kubica's engine to 'limp home' mode, quick.
BMW: Righto.

I thought I might have been the only one to be 'highly surprised' that McLaren would risk running bald tyres on a damp track, especially when there'd been a few wrecks (Sutils car smashed into bits in the pit lane entrance for one) to put enough doubt about punctures and blow-outs into mind...

Edited by Digga on Monday 8th October 19:19

[flemke]

Digga said:

And then a similar call to Williams:

MAX: Kubica is runnning well
Williams: Yes - we're hoping he can hold the place and score a win!

Doesn't Kubica drive for BMW?

[Digga]

flemke said:

Digga said:

And then a similar call to Williams:

MAX: Kubica is runnning well
Williams: Yes - we're hoping he can hold the place and score a win!

Doesn't Kubica drive for BMW?

Quite right. Sorry - but you get my drift on this one don't you?

The race just seemed to be one bizarre 'coincidence' after another.

[RedexRob]

Well spotted , BMW and Williams had their acrimonious divorce a couple of years back , that said and I sincerely hope I,m wrong , I think we may have seen Lewis just lose the drivers championship right there , how stupid was that decision to keep him out , as they said in the papers , a bit more experience and he would have made that decision for them and radioed in "I,m COMING IN NOW ,new tyres please" not waited for the decision.

Edited by RedexRob on Monday 8th October 19:32

[Clevers]

Regional said:

Would someone like to explain to me how this is rigged?
Does Bernie have a red telephone that he uses to call the team managers to demand that they tell their drivers to do certain things?
I can just imagine him sitting there stroking a cat with a bejewelled hand shouting down his red phone "just one more lap Ron, one more lap"

Simple explanation. Bernie Ecclestone is extremely rich and powerful and can influence the outcome of events. Just like the way he influenced New Labour and Tony Blair on cigarette advertising in F1 with his £1M donation to their party. Who benefits most from a 3 way showdown for the title involving 3 drivers of different nationalities ? The TV revenues will be huge and what better way of bringing your audience back next year.


I couldn't believe my eyes by the way, and almost found it funny when one of the ITV commentators said "he has a bit of paper on his tyres" - that'll be canvas Sir.

[RedexRob]

and an afterthought , I see the FIA have not taken any action in respect of Ferrari,s defiance : starting on the wrong tyres to the race officials instruction in Japan , good job they weren,t the Silver cars making that mistake ?