Brazilian GP 2007 - spoilers
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flemke said:
5 per cent said:
McLaren will be running third at best next year if they lose Alonso and after they take all the Ferrari IP out of the car. Just as they were in the year before they got Alonso.
Why am I reminded of Saddam Hussein's official spokesman, who insisted that the Iraqi army was defeating the Allies whilst, in the background, American tanks were rolling into Baghdad?Or "Ignorance is Bliss"
mikey_p said:
s.m.h. said:
Marki said:
5.0 said:
McLaren will be running third at best next year if they lose Alonso
What a cock FFS its the guys first year in F1, as long as the Mc is capable of winning next year, that kid will do well.
trackdemon said:
mikey_p said:
s.m.h. said:
Marki said:
5.0 said:
McLaren will be running third at best next year if they lose Alonso
What a cock FFS its the guys first year in F1, as long as the Mc is capable of winning next year, that kid will do well.
Hamilton for King of England. Or even better, Spain
mikey_p said:
flemke said:
5 per cent said:
McLaren will be running third at best next year if they lose Alonso and after they take all the Ferrari IP out of the car. Just as they were in the year before they got Alonso.
Why am I reminded of Saddam Hussein's official spokesman, who insisted that the Iraqi army was defeating the Allies whilst, in the background, American tanks were rolling into Baghdad?Or "Ignorance is Bliss"
......good ol BBflemke said:
5 per cent said:
McLaren will be running third at best next year if they lose Alonso and after they take all the Ferrari IP out of the car. Just as they were in the year before they got Alonso.
Why am I reminded of Saddam Hussein's official spokesman, who insisted that the Iraqi army was defeating the Allies whilst, in the background, American tanks were rolling into Baghdad?
flemke said:
Why aren't we hearing an even greater chorus of complaints about Nico Rosberg, Nelsinho Piquet, Marco Andretti, Graham Rahal, Greg Mansell and Henry Surtees, all of whose dads were both rich and very well connected to the levers of power within motorsport?
Don't forget Johnny Herbert's parents setting up their stall at all the races and selling items of clothing to help fund their son. Always good for an interesting chat and a bit of a laugh. Lovely people. They were very nice to me and I never bought any of their gear. You can't help wondering what he might have achieved - not that he failed of course - if he hadn't had that accident. He out-qualified a certin M Scumacher once with ease. Mind you, Ferrari never let him do that again. They kept all of MSchey's data away from him but Johnny's was scoured by Schey.Thing is though, think about the british drivers for a minute. Since the whe,.late seventies? karting has been very popular in the uk, and there have been hordes of wealthy youngsters who have made a start in karting, hordes of them, thousands and thousands possibly.
But - James Hunt, his family didn't support his motor racing and so he had little funds. Mansell - had no money. Hill - had no money, couldn't do karting. Herbert, Had little money. Button. He never had the motorhomes that his mates would turn up at the kart tracks in, and dad always had his hands dirty. Hamilton - no money at all.
So, there have been thousands of kids who have been given great opportunities to get to the top of motorsport, but none of them made it. DC is the only one i can think of in modern times. Its not fair to say of Hamilton that had other kids been given the opportunity, thousands of other kids had the opportunity from the moment they were born.
Hamilton had nothing, i mean, lets not beat about the bush, he was even the wrong colour. All he had was his personality and his dad, that's all.
But - James Hunt, his family didn't support his motor racing and so he had little funds. Mansell - had no money. Hill - had no money, couldn't do karting. Herbert, Had little money. Button. He never had the motorhomes that his mates would turn up at the kart tracks in, and dad always had his hands dirty. Hamilton - no money at all.
So, there have been thousands of kids who have been given great opportunities to get to the top of motorsport, but none of them made it. DC is the only one i can think of in modern times. Its not fair to say of Hamilton that had other kids been given the opportunity, thousands of other kids had the opportunity from the moment they were born.
Hamilton had nothing, i mean, lets not beat about the bush, he was even the wrong colour. All he had was his personality and his dad, that's all.
Derek Smith said:
flemke said:
Why aren't we hearing an even greater chorus of complaints about Nico Rosberg, Nelsinho Piquet, Marco Andretti, Graham Rahal, Greg Mansell and Henry Surtees, all of whose dads were both rich and very well connected to the levers of power within motorsport?
Don't forget Johnny Herbert's parents setting up their stall at all the races and selling items of clothing to help fund their son. Always good for an interesting chat and a bit of a laugh. Lovely people. They were very nice to me and I never bought any of their gear. You can't help wondering what he might have achieved - not that he failed of course - if he hadn't had that accident. He out-qualified a certin M Scumacher once with ease. Mind you, Ferrari never let him do that again. They kept all of MSchey's data away from him but Johnny's was scoured by Schey.Heebeegeetee said:
Hamilton had nothing, i mean, lets not beat about the bush, he was even the wrong colour. All he had was his personality and his dad, that's all.
That's slightly overdramatising though isn't it. He hardly had to scrape his way up from the gutter. He had what looked like a nice family home, a good upbringing, and he had all the kit that was needed to go racing, even for the year or two before he got picked up by the Zip young guns and McMerc. Yes, his Dad scrimped and saved to pay for it all, but it still got bought. And his progress since karting has hardly been the Mansell-esque story of re-mortgaging his tiny flat in Birmingham just to pay for an F3 drive.I'm not taking anything away from his achievement, but I think it's stretching the truth rather too much to suggest he's endured a modern day "Jimi Hendrix" experience.
Edited by Stuismyname on Tuesday 23 October 12:20
Stuismyname said:
Derek Smith said:
flemke said:
Why aren't we hearing an even greater chorus of complaints about Nico Rosberg, Nelsinho Piquet, Marco Andretti, Graham Rahal, Greg Mansell and Henry Surtees, all of whose dads were both rich and very well connected to the levers of power within motorsport?
Don't forget Johnny Herbert's parents setting up their stall at all the races and selling items of clothing to help fund their son. Always good for an interesting chat and a bit of a laugh. Lovely people. They were very nice to me and I never bought any of their gear. You can't help wondering what he might have achieved - not that he failed of course - if he hadn't had that accident. He out-qualified a certin M Scumacher once with ease. Mind you, Ferrari never let him do that again. They kept all of MSchey's data away from him but Johnny's was scoured by Schey.Edited by Strangely Brown on Tuesday 23 October 12:17
Heebeegeetee said:
Hamilton had nothing, i mean, lets not beat about the bush, he was even the wrong colour. All he had was his personality and his dad, that's all.
Peter Griffin off Family Guy said:
So my advice to you is to have lots of kids, cos that way there is more chance that one of them will make it in Hollywooood! Then who pays the bills? That's right, Hollywood kiiiid
Damn I need to preview my quotes before I press submitEdited by Conian on Tuesday 23 October 12:19
Marki said:
Heebeegeetee said:
Hamilton had nothing, i mean, lets not beat about the bush, he was even the wrong colour. All he had was his personality and his dad, that's all.
Dont forget bags of talent Stuismyname said:
Heebeegeetee said:
Hamilton had nothing, i mean, lets not beat about the bush, he was even the wrong colour. All he had was his personality and his dad, that's all.
That's slightly overdramatising though isn't it. He hardly had to scrape his way up from the gutter. He had what looked like a nice family home, a good upbringing, and he had all the kit that was needed to go racing, even for the year or two before he got picked up by the Zip young guns and McMerc. Yes, his Dad scrimped and saved to pay for it all, but it still got bought. And his progress since karting has hardly been the Mansell-esque story of re-mortgaging his tiny flat in Birmingham just to pay for an F3 drive.And the hamiltons had a crappy awning. Now, you know that motorhome that Clarke and May are currently running around in in california on the telly at the mo? Thats what the kids that hamilton (and button, in fairness) was competing against used to turn up in. Only bigger.
Nope, i'm sorry, but Anthony Hamilton used to have get up at half past ten at night half an hour before he went to bed, work 29 hours down mill AND pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and you try and tell the young folk of that today. They won't believe you!
flemke said:
5 per cent said:
McLaren will be running third at best next year if they lose Alonso and after they take all the Ferrari IP out of the car. Just as they were in the year before they got Alonso.
Why am I reminded of Saddam Hussein's official spokesman, who insisted that the Iraqi army was defeating the Allies whilst, in the background, American tanks were rolling into Baghdad?
"I tell you, we are in control. The invading infidels are being slaughtered"........and cue the M1 battle tanks in the back ground.
Highlight reel:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zbmENT4D0k
Sorry for thread diversion!
Leithen said:
thewave said:
There's a bigger picture to look at than just your own personal satisfaction at supporting the best.
I could not disagree more. On so may different levels. Blindly supporting your national sportsmen regardless of their abilities or performance simply entrenches mediocrity.I'll support who the hell I like - almost entirely down to my opinion of their talent, sportsmanship and shoeware sponsor. Well maybe not so much the shoes...
"Alongside the best TV ratings that the F1 has had for seven years, Lewis Hamilton can also take the credit for an upturn in the UK motorsport industry’s fortune this year, according to the Motorsport Industry Association.
Despite not quite converting his impressive run of results into a championship title, the CEO of the MIA, Chris Aylett, hailed Hamilton’s ability to catch “the imagination of a new generation of young people throughout the UK.”
He added “Whilst track-day activity has grown over the past few years, we have been seeking more competitors to take up the real sport of motor racing – and Lewis Hamilton is just what we have been waiting for.”
With the added pressure from green campaigners threatening the sport we know and love, we salute Lewis too, for being the media-friendly excuse for burning copious amounts of super unleaded all in the name of sport."
So thank you Mr Hamilton, for helping Motorsport in the UK.
Heebeegeetee said:
Marki said:
Heebeegeetee said:
Hamilton had nothing, i mean, lets not beat about the bush, he was even the wrong colour. All he had was his personality and his dad, that's all.
Dont forget bags of talent Stuismyname said:
Heebeegeetee said:
Hamilton had nothing, i mean, lets not beat about the bush, he was even the wrong colour. All he had was his personality and his dad, that's all.
That's slightly overdramatising though isn't it. He hardly had to scrape his way up from the gutter. He had what looked like a nice family home, a good upbringing, and he had all the kit that was needed to go racing, even for the year or two before he got picked up by the Zip young guns and McMerc. Yes, his Dad scrimped and saved to pay for it all, but it still got bought. And his progress since karting has hardly been the Mansell-esque story of re-mortgaging his tiny flat in Birmingham just to pay for an F3 drive.And the hamiltons had a crappy awning. Now, you know that motorhome that Clarke and May are currently running around in in california on the telly at the mo? Thats what the kids that hamilton (and button, in fairness) was competing against used to turn up in. Only bigger.
As I recall, Button's set-up was far less impressive in his earlier / national karting days. I remember a relatively modest, privateer, tow-a-van hitched to a 4x4 when he was racing Super One.
Also, Mansell's flat was hardly "very nice" - his then nextdoor neighbours are friends of my family; they don't recall it being very plush, and I don't suspect Hall Green was back then either.
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