Win a championship without winning a race?

[Fetchez la vache]

With all this palaver about Louis, it got me wondering..

Has anyone ever won a F1 or Rally championship title without winning a single race?

Obviously unlikely, but statistically possible...

[The Londoner]

isn't that what Keke did?

[dougc]

Keke won the Swiss GP. Only win of the year...

[SimonY]

Denny Hulme 1967 F1 champion 0 wins, 2 2nds, 8 3rds

edit: this is a lie

Edited by SimonY on Tuesday 23 October 15:05

[Ianeire]

Richard Burns came very close to doing it.

[flemke]

SimonY said:

Denny Hulme 1967 F1 champion 0 wins, 2 2nds, 8 3rds

Denny won twice that year - Monaco and Germany.

[kevin ritson]

dougc said:

Keke won the Swiss GP. Only win of the year...

Although to be fair no driver won more than 2 races that year

[SimonY]

flemke said:

SimonY said:

Denny Hulme 1967 F1 champion 0 wins, 2 2nds, 8 3rds

Denny won twice that year - Monaco and Germany.

Sorry must get my internet plagiarism correct

[1]

Not sure about F1 or Rallying but Martin Byford won the Clio Cup Championship this year without winning a single race!

[flemke]

SimonY said:

flemke said:

SimonY said:

Denny Hulme 1967 F1 champion 0 wins, 2 2nds, 8 3rds

Denny won twice that year - Monaco and Germany.

Sorry must get my internet plagiarism correct

A while back I had the pleasure of spending time with Denny's widow, Greeta, and giving her a ride in the car that was named after her husband's teammate.
She was a very down-to-earth, genuine person. It was hard to believe that her husband had been a World Champion, when one thought about today's prima donnas and all their pretensions.

[lazyitus]

flemke said:

A while back I had the pleasure of spending time with Denny's widow, Greeta, and giving her a ride in the car that was named after her husband's teammate.
She was a very down-to-earth, genuine person. It was hard to believe that her husband had been a World Champion, when one thought about today's prima donnas and all their pretensions.

You are a genuine mystery, flemke.

I like it and I wish I knew more just out of sheer noseyness.

[flemke]

lazyitus said:

You are a genuine mystery, flemke.

I like it and I wish I knew more just out of sheer noseyness.

Nothing mysterious about it.
As a child, I was just dropped on my head.

[anonymous-user]

LOL

One of my friends was Denny's race mechanic back in the 60's, he was something rather special in the big CanAm cars in particular, perfectly matched car and driver combination there, F1 cars were far too weedy by comparison.

We have a couple of the early McLaren CanAm cars in our stable, cars with real character.

[flemke]

johnfelstead said:

One of my friends was Denny's race mechanic back in the 60's,...

Cary Taylor, by any chance?

[deevlash]

Ianeire said:

Richard Burns came very close to doing it.

hes the one I thought of

[anonymous-user]

No, it wasnt from his McLaren days. Fellow Kiwi too. Ian mainly worked for John Wyer at the time.

[flemke]

johnfelstead said:

No, it wasnt from his McLaren days. Fellow Kiwi too. Ian mainly worked for John Wyer at the time.

Cheers.

[custardtart]

Fetchez la vache said:

With all this palaver about Louis, it got me wondering..

Who's Louis, is Mr Armstrong still alive and well and working in a fish & chip shop in Southend?

[jonnylayze]

kevin ritson said:

dougc said:

Keke won the Swiss GP. Only win of the year...

Although to be fair no driver won more than 2 races that year

In 1958 Mike Hawthorn won only one Grand Prix (the French) to Stirling Moss' 4 (Argentina, Holland, Portugal, Morocco) and Tony Brooks' 3 (Germany, Belgium, Italy). Due to the peculiarities of the scoring system at that time and his greater consistency, Hawthorn took the title with Moss second (for the 4th year in a row...).

It is interesting that on the 3 circuits which presented the greatest driving challenge, Brooks - relatively unknown now - won each time.......

[stockhatcher]

Mark Lovell, British rally champ in 1986 without winning a rally.