Teams killing F1
Discussion
I will be honest I am a Ferrari fan and I know they are as bad as any other team but don't you think teams are killing F1 with going to court every 5 minutes.
It will not be long and the lawyers will be the one winning the championship, maybe that's a good way to cut emissions "F1 IN COURT"
I think when people look back on the 2007 season it will not be who won or lost but all the crap with the courts.
It will not be long and the lawyers will be the one winning the championship, maybe that's a good way to cut emissions "F1 IN COURT"
I think when people look back on the 2007 season it will not be who won or lost but all the crap with the courts.
To me I dont think the courts will be what is remembered in te long run, I agree for the next 2 or 3 years they wil be the talking poiont of this season, but in 10 or 15 years time, when Kimi and Lewis have both retired and its just a record in the history books I am not sure too many people will remember that Mclaren(would have) scored more championship points, that FA hindered LH in Hungary or that Kimi had a bad early season but won through consistancy and Mclarens mistakes in the second half.
To be fair, and I do have to agree that Ferrari have done more than their fair share of shouting and whinging, but so have other teams, Spyker and Williams about SAR and STR and their 'non' customer chassis from parent teams, Mclaren appealing against the stewards decisions at Brazil.
Maybe Ferrari should look at how Mclaren dealt with the illegality of te Ferrari at the first race, found out about it, and then submitted their own design in order to clarify that the design used was illegal, when they could ave pointed the finger and proved it.
Maybe Ferrari should look at how Mclaren dealt with the illegality of te Ferrari at the first race, found out about it, and then submitted their own design in order to clarify that the design used was illegal, when they could ave pointed the finger and proved it.
npope said:
But someone needs to put a stop to it or every race will be decided after it has finished, every driver will be worried there race postion will be taken away. I understand money si everything but they also need to keep the fans happy.
It's not a decision any one team can take unilaterally though. If they did they would just go backwards. I think the solution needs to come from applying penalties consistently rather than from the teams letting indiscretions be dropped (or excessively penalised).There are usually ulterior motives for doing stuff, for example McLaren appealing the fuel temp decision. They have something to gain & nothing to lose from appealing, but their reason given was to get a precident set so every team knows where the line will be drawn in future. If the Stewards don't penalise a breach of the rules then pretty soon everyone does it until someone goes too far & a clear line is drawn. By appealing McLaren are trying to get the line drawn now rather than taking the more risky approach of pushing the rule further & further until they (or another team) are eventually penalised, but the reason why they are doing it at all is because it's in their interests (ie if LH's Brazil position improves). Ditto with Williams vs Prodrive. Williams aren't challenging Red Bull or Honda because the benefit doesn't justify the cost, but with Prodrive it does.
Team owners have sat around for too long getting rich from sponsors, TV revenues and motor manufacturers who believe F1 sells models from the forecourts. Yes it raises a manufacturers profile but it does not sell any more cars. The FIA has a role to play here but unfortunately money controls the team managers and losing points costs US$ 1 million per race or more! Sponsors are not happy and thus teams will fight tooth a nail for every penny and against every rule.
Anybody remember in Spa 1999 when McLaren were punished for putting cool fuel in their cars....when actually it had been stored in a sealed tank overnight and the ambient temperature had falled over 6c??
Anybody remember in Spa 1999 when McLaren were punished for putting cool fuel in their cars....when actually it had been stored in a sealed tank overnight and the ambient temperature had falled over 6c??
Spa 1997, Mika Hakkinen was disqualified because the fuel sample taken from his car on the morning of the GP differed from the FIA sample taken from the Mobil batch supplied at the start of the season, if my memory serves me correctly. It was down to the weather and how the fuel was stored overnight in the garage.
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