Modest Lewis

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Ecurie Ecosse

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219 months

Thursday 25th October 2007
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Brilliant - in what must have been a 2 minute interview. I especially like the "but let's not forget" bit in the last quote ; )

Remind me - did he come from GP2 and finish second in the championship?

http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3213_282152...

" if you think about it, coming from GP2, who would have thought I'd be ranked number two in my first year of Formula 1."

"I've come from GP2 and now I am ranked number two in the world which is positive. I really can't wait for next year. I know we can do a better job. "

" I finished second in the World Championship, I beat my team mate, under extremely difficult circumstances I beat the two time World Champion, that was the goal a the beginning so that's a great result."

"but let's not forget it's been an incredible season for me and to come into my first season in Formula 1 and finish a rank number two. I'm the number two driver in the world, that's - that's pretty awesome "

stephen300o

15,464 posts

229 months

Thursday 25th October 2007
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Biggest number two in the worldwink

ATG

20,669 posts

273 months

Thursday 25th October 2007
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Within the context of the interview it all reads perfectly well. I'm not an automatic fan of Lewis, nor an automatic detractor; I don't go in for hero worship or its opposite. From a neutral reading, if anyone really objects to what he said there, it says far more about your preconceptions and prejudices than it says about him.

stephen300o

15,464 posts

229 months

Thursday 25th October 2007
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ATG said:
Within the context of the interview it all reads perfectly well. I'm not an automatic fan of Lewis, nor an automatic detractor; I don't go in for hero worship or its opposite. From a neutral reading, if anyone really objects to what he said there, it says far more about your preconceptions and prejudices than it says about him.
Lots of people say his modest, so some of us like to point out his "special" modesty, not really an "ojection"

RobM77

35,349 posts

235 months

Thursday 25th October 2007
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There is a difference between arrogance and confidence and, in my opinion, Lewis is firmly on the side of confidence. No arrogance in him at all.

Ecurie Ecosse

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Thursday 25th October 2007
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One of my Dad's friends had a similar level of confidence when, in the early 80s when ordering takeaway food, he would give his name as "BMW".

DBSV8

5,958 posts

239 months

Thursday 25th October 2007
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stephen300o said:
Biggest number two in the worldwink
sorry .....fccckkkk spilled my tea over the sodding keybord again


roflroflroflrofl

stew-S160

8,006 posts

239 months

Thursday 25th October 2007
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ranked #2.

his car will wera #3 though.

Teppic

7,381 posts

258 months

Thursday 25th October 2007
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stew-S160 said:
ranked #2.

his car will wera #3 though.
Nope. Next year his car number will be 22.

Remember, McLaren have been excluded, and the car numbers are allocated in the order that the finished the Constructors championship (with the exception of the No. 1 which follows the world champion no matter which constructor wins), so the numbers for 2008 will be allocated as follows:

Ferrari: 1, 2
BMW: 3, 4
Renault: 5, 6
Williams: 7, 8
Red Bull: 9, 10
Toyota: 11, 12
Toro Rosso: 14, 15
Honda: 16, 17
Super Aguri: 18, 19
Force India: 20, 21
McLaren: 22, 23 (unless Prodrive get in, in which case they will have 22 and 23, and McLaren will have 24 and 25)

DBSV8

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239 months

Thursday 25th October 2007
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Teppic said:
stew-S160 said:
ranked #2.

his car will wera #3 though.
Nope. Next year his car number will be 22.

Remember, McLaren have been excluded, and the car numbers are allocated in the order that the finished the Constructors championship (with the exception of the No. 1 which follows the world champion no matter which constructor wins), so the numbers for 2008 will be allocated as follows:

Ferrari: 1, 2
BMW: 3, 4
Renault: 5, 6
Williams: 7, 8
Red Bull: 9, 10
Toyota: 11, 12
Toro Rosso: 14, 15
Honda: 16, 17
Super Aguri: 18, 19
Force India: 20, 21
McLaren: 22, 23 (unless Prodrive get in, in which case they will have 22 and 23, and McLaren will have 24 and 25)
seem to remember Ferrari retained # 27 / 28 on its cars

and Mansell always drove red #5 / 6 for williams

scratchchin

DBSV8

5,958 posts

239 months

Thursday 25th October 2007
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Teppic said:
stew-S160 said:
ranked #2.

his car will wera #3 though.
Nope. Next year his car number will be 22.

Remember, McLaren have been excluded, and the car numbers are allocated in the order that the finished the Constructors championship (with the exception of the No. 1 which follows the world champion no matter which constructor wins), so the numbers for 2008 will be allocated as follows:

Ferrari: 1, 2
BMW: 3, 4
Renault: 5, 6
Williams: 7, 8
Red Bull: 9, 10
Toyota: 11, 12
Toro Rosso: 14, 15
Honda: 16, 17
Super Aguri: 18, 19
Force India: 20, 21
McLaren: 22, 23 (unless Prodrive get in, in which case they will have 22 and 23, and McLaren will have 24 and 25)
seem to remember Mansell always driving red 5 when at Williams

and Ferrari having a penchant for #27 and 28

scratchchin

Teppic

7,381 posts

258 months

Thursday 25th October 2007
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DBSV8 said:
Teppic said:
stew-S160 said:
ranked #2.

his car will wera #3 though.
Nope. Next year his car number will be 22.

Remember, McLaren have been excluded, and the car numbers are allocated in the order that the finished the Constructors championship (with the exception of the No. 1 which follows the world champion no matter which constructor wins), so the numbers for 2008 will be allocated as follows:

Ferrari: 1, 2
BMW: 3, 4
Renault: 5, 6
Williams: 7, 8
Red Bull: 9, 10
Toyota: 11, 12
Toro Rosso: 14, 15
Honda: 16, 17
Super Aguri: 18, 19
Force India: 20, 21
McLaren: 22, 23 (unless Prodrive get in, in which case they will have 22 and 23, and McLaren will have 24 and 25)
seem to remember Mansell always driving red 5 when at Williams

and Ferrari having a penchant for #27 and 28

scratchchin
Indeed up until 1995 it seemed that teams could have what had become regarded as "traditional" numbers, i.e 3 & 4 for Tyrrell, 5 & 6 for Williams, 9 & 10 for Arrows and 27 & 28 for Ferrari. The rules were changed at the end of 1995 IIRC and now the numbering is based on the Constructors championship positions, so the numbers 22 & 23 will adorn the McLarens next season, unless Prodrive are allowed to enter in which case McLaren will have 24 & 25 for being placed dead last in the 2007 Constructor championship.

Teppic

7,381 posts

258 months

Thursday 25th October 2007
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DBSV8 said:
seem to remember Mansell always driving red 5 when at Williams
Ahem. Red 2 in 1994 wink

tank slapper

7,949 posts

284 months

Thursday 25th October 2007
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I thought is was before 1995 - didn't Hill wear number 0 on his car because Mansell left F1 after winning the 1992 championship?

Teppic

7,381 posts

258 months

Thursday 25th October 2007
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tank slapper said:
I thought is was before 1995 - didn't Hill wear number 0 on his car because Mansell left F1 after winning the 1992 championship?
Hill had number 0 in 1993 and 1994 as in 1992 and 1993 the reigning world champion had elected to retire from F1. Mansell ran with red 2 when he replaced David Coulthard for his four "comeback" races in 1994.

In the second of his two disastrous outings for McLaren in 1995, Mansell has a small red 5 on the airbox next to his name, even though the car ran with number 7.

Eric Mc

122,106 posts

266 months

Thursday 25th October 2007
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Ferrari ran with "11" and "12" for most of the 70s.

These days it's so bloody hard to see the tiny numbers on the cars that it's hardly an issue anymore.

alant

202 posts

220 months

Thursday 25th October 2007
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I am amazed how people try to have a go at the guy

I am not a particular fan, have never really been that bothered about F1 since Senna died, but he did come from GP2 and finished No2, and if I was in his shoes I would be singing it from the rooftops.

If anyone on here had achieved the same I am sure they would as well.

If you want modest find a vicar, if you want total self belief, verging on arrogance find a top class racing driver

LDNrevs

8,915 posts

204 months

Thursday 25th October 2007
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alant said:
I am amazed how people try to have a go at the guy

I am not a particular fan, have never really been that bothered about F1 since Senna died, but he did come from GP2 and finished No2, and if I was in his shoes I would be singing it from the rooftops.

If anyone on here had achieved the same I am sure they would as well.

If you want modest find a vicar, if you want total self belief, verging on arrogance find a top class racing driver
Exactly, that about sums it up......

stephen300o

15,464 posts

229 months

Thursday 25th October 2007
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LDNrevs said:
alant said:
I am amazed how people try to have a go at the guy

I am not a particular fan, have never really been that bothered about F1 since Senna died, but he did come from GP2 and finished No2, and if I was in his shoes I would be singing it from the rooftops.

If anyone on here had achieved the same I am sure they would as well.

If you want modest find a vicar, if you want total self belief, verging on arrogance find a top class racing driver
Exactly, that about sums it up......
I'm amazed how neutral people can be, they turn up to the race and don't care who wins, just hoping it's a jolly good show. If you had any bias at all you would use it against the drivers you don't support, some times I dispair at peoples lack of sarcasm.

jon-

16,511 posts

217 months

Thursday 25th October 2007
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confused Those quotes, even out of context, are very modest considering.