Alonso and Piquet for Renault
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Stuismyname said:
Baldylocks said:
Marki said:
Baldylocks said:
Just read on another thread Hakinnen has quit DTM. Maybe he's looking for a drive.......
But he also said its good bye to motorsport so........
And you just know if anyone offered Mansell a drive he'd be back in a flash, regardless of his age and physical condition, gawd luv 'im.
"Woof". Did you get this from someone on the "inside"?
Edited to say that I see you posted your source earlier on.
I saw a guy doing a crossword on the train today - couldn't see the answer but the words were in a random order....."on bang money the"........I think - clearly he needed to rearrange them to make sense.
Edited to say that I see you posted your source earlier on.
I saw a guy doing a crossword on the train today - couldn't see the answer but the words were in a random order....."on bang money the"........I think - clearly he needed to rearrange them to make sense.
Edited by rubystone on Wednesday 7th November 16:33
kevin ritson said:
Heebeegeetee said:
I can't imagine Piquet's dad getting on with Alonso.
They'd have a lot to talk about, like going to a top team and expecting their English team mate to be subservient to their needs, then losing out on a certain championship by not helping them...Killer2005 said:
Er, I very much doubt it. Why replace mediocrity with more mediocrity? Toyota would have to be desperate not to win races to give him a drive.Stuismyname said:
Killer2005 said:
Er, I very much doubt it. Why replace mediocrity with more mediocrity? Toyota would have to be desperate not to win races to give him a drive.Stuismyname said:
Baldylocks said:
Marki said:
Baldylocks said:
Just read on another thread Hakinnen has quit DTM. Maybe he's looking for a drive.......
But he also said its good bye to motorsport so........
And you just know if anyone offered Mansell a drive he'd be back in a flash, regardless of his age and physical condition, gawd luv 'im.
MrKipling43 said:
Let's suppose that it's Toyota. What would that say about Alonso?He was at one of the two dominant teams, where he had a decent chance to win any race. Because that team wouldn't suck up to him, however, he goes to a team which maybe has a chance to get a couple of podiums - if they're lucky. He chooses that team because they will suck up to him.
Very unimpressive.
The Mole's analysis of the situation is rather compelling:
- Car is crap now so if it does badly not Alonso's fault,
- If it does well all down to Alonso's skill in developing and driving the car.
Maybe Alonso wants to impress us all by copying Schumi (Snr) and going to an underperforming team and dragging it up the rankings. It would give us a definative answer of how good he is at developing a car. We have had a few drivers over the years who were only as good as the car they were given.
The Mole's other points about lawyers working into the night on stopping FA & McMerc telling the whole deal to the world is very believable. I would guess Ron's price for Alonso walking out on McMerc to Renault would have been ...
oh? perhaps $100 million give or take. That number has a certain ring to it!
- Car is crap now so if it does badly not Alonso's fault,
- If it does well all down to Alonso's skill in developing and driving the car.
Maybe Alonso wants to impress us all by copying Schumi (Snr) and going to an underperforming team and dragging it up the rankings. It would give us a definative answer of how good he is at developing a car. We have had a few drivers over the years who were only as good as the car they were given.
The Mole's other points about lawyers working into the night on stopping FA & McMerc telling the whole deal to the world is very believable. I would guess Ron's price for Alonso walking out on McMerc to Renault would have been ...
oh? perhaps $100 million give or take. That number has a certain ring to it!
Toyota have got their line up with Trulli and Glock
That only leaves Renault and Red Bull
the only way ALonso's going to go to Red Bull is that it's a one year - big pay cheque deal - and that he's already done a deal to go to Ferrari. (Ferrari or Mclaren are really the only teams likely to win a world champs)
I know it doesn't make much sense, since he had such an issue with Hamilton - but who's to say that the Kimster is going to stay at Ferrari and he certainly doesn't care who's in the garage next to him
From F1-live
"Rumour has it that Bourdais could be asked to spend one final season in the United States so that Coulthard can switch to Toro Rosso, thus vacating a seat at the senior team for Alonso."
???
That only leaves Renault and Red Bull
the only way ALonso's going to go to Red Bull is that it's a one year - big pay cheque deal - and that he's already done a deal to go to Ferrari. (Ferrari or Mclaren are really the only teams likely to win a world champs)
I know it doesn't make much sense, since he had such an issue with Hamilton - but who's to say that the Kimster is going to stay at Ferrari and he certainly doesn't care who's in the garage next to him
From F1-live
"Rumour has it that Bourdais could be asked to spend one final season in the United States so that Coulthard can switch to Toro Rosso, thus vacating a seat at the senior team for Alonso."
???
just thought of another reason why Alonso's not going to Red Bull - that Red Bull is all about PR and big lifestyle events. DC and webber love the glam - Alonso's not one for signing his life away as a corporate PR monkey. RB simply isn't he's team
(anyway it's just him trying to negotiate a better deal with Flav)
as the week progresses - I starting to think there isn't a place in F1 for him in 2008 !
So one could make a hypothetical assumption as to why Alonso hasn't yet signed to Renault
Alonso is now worried that Renault are going to get hauled over the coals for this latest scandal and possible won't have the funds to pay him a big fat cheque - nor give a competitive car
Mclaren knew that they were going to put evidence forward to the FIA about Renault spying. They must be very confident that there's a case to be answered - there's no way they would want to be dragged into yet another scandal - right ?
Mclaren do a deal with Flav to take Alonso off there hands - there's no doubt money exchanged hands here - despite what the press releases say
Meanwhile - Mclaren know that Renault are
ed (pending the FIA doing anything - but if the FIA don't do anything - then Mosely surely must be thrown out)So Mclaren end up getting paid to get rid of Alonso - ship him off to a team that's going to be heavily penalised for next year and maybe get rid of Mosely as well !!
Happy days
The McLaren/Renault issue was raised a couple of months ago at the second hearing, so it's been potentially on the cards for a while. The FIA didnt do anything at the time because McLaren hadnt lodged an oficial complaint with data to the FIA.
Maybe the reason the FIA has now acted is because McLaren put in the oficial complaint and the required data after dumping Alonso, and they were waiting to get him out of contract before doing so.
Who knows what the FIA will do, the only consistent thing about them is how inconsistent they are.
Maybe the reason the FIA has now acted is because McLaren put in the oficial complaint and the required data after dumping Alonso, and they were waiting to get him out of contract before doing so.
Who knows what the FIA will do, the only consistent thing about them is how inconsistent they are.
i thought FA was denying renault more than most other possible teams - that was a little while back tho. toyota i think is a no-go, i can't see alonso doing a ralf (fat paycheck for sitting in the low midfield).
not sure where he'll end up but i agree with those that reckon a 1 year deal and then off to ferrari to replace massa in '09
don't think he'll end up at BMW, tho he and Kubi get on really well, i think BMW will want to pull Vettel back in at that point
not sure where he'll end up but i agree with those that reckon a 1 year deal and then off to ferrari to replace massa in '09
don't think he'll end up at BMW, tho he and Kubi get on really well, i think BMW will want to pull Vettel back in at that point
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