F1 Donington 1993

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The DJ 27

2,666 posts

253 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2004
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I must have seen that lap of Donington in '93 a hundred times, and the way Senna passes Karl Wendlinger in the Craner Curves never ceases to amaze me. Anyone who's ever watched any kind of racing car through there knows that Senna's move is pushing the boundary's of what's possible. An awesome, if flawed talent, and still my ultimate hero. He was far from being the best, most complete racing driver of all time, but I firmly beleive that he is the fastest person ever to sit in an F1 car.

raftom

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1,197 posts

261 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2004
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woof said:
...been round it in the 911 at 4am on the Saturday morning

No coppers at that hour then? Was there in a late afternoon in the 944 and they were looking at me with face.

griffmeister

211 posts

276 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2004
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I must be showing my age big time but it doesnt seem like all that long ago to me.

I spent the GP weekend up there with my old man, the Saturday qualifying was awesome, especially the wail of the old V12 Ferraris down the straight.

On raceday we sat up near the bar, looking down on the craner curves and the old hairpin and what I saw that Sunday afternoon will stick with me for ever. Until then I was never a massive Senna fan, as being British it was Mansell we all followed around that time. But wow, what a drive by Senna, absolutely out of this world. If he hadnt have backed off towards the end of the race he would have lapped the entire field. Senna was without doubt the master of Monaco, but this GP win eclipses them all.

Theres a story to tell my grandchildren, I was
actually there !

I cried the day he was killed and still get a lump in my throat everytime I see footage of him, especially of the Donnington GP. He was the best of them all.

The DJ 27

2,666 posts

253 months

Wednesday 3rd March 2004
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griffmeister said:

the wail of the old V12 Ferraris down the straight.


Only ever heard a V12 Ferrari F1 car once, at the Senna Tribute meeting at Donington last year. It was an ex-Alesi (another of my heroes) 1995 412T2.

My God what a noise! Utterly spine-tingling. Anyone who doesn't smile from ear to ear when they hear one isn't a petrohead!

Melv

4,708 posts

265 months

Thursday 4th March 2004
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Frik -tks so much for the link -heard loads about this lap but never seen it.

Melv

Heebeegeetee

28,759 posts

248 months

Friday 5th March 2004
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woof said:
If I remember correctly - it wasn't all skill but alot of luck and clever setup.

Williams had got there setup totally wrong - thought they were at Watkins Glen or something !

But still bloody good - reminds me of my opening lap at Donington in 2001 Think I did 12 cars though on the first lap


I think I'd go so far as to say that you couldn't put one single iota of that opening lap down to luck, not a single jot.

raftom

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1,197 posts

261 months

Saturday 6th March 2004
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Kaazaed and found this. Alas is without sound but as much more in-car footage.

http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0682725401/Ayrton_Senna_Donnington_Park_1993_Onboard.asf

manek

2,972 posts

284 months

Wednesday 3rd November 2004
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Does anyone still have the race on video -- in which case I'd love to borrow it...

Uriel

3,244 posts

251 months

Thursday 4th November 2004
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I have it. I loaned it to a friend at work and still haven't gotten it back, but I'm sure I could get it for you. There's probably another race or two on the same tape too...

Eric Mc

122,038 posts

265 months

Friday 5th November 2004
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To be honest, after the first lap, the race settled down to the more usual F1 procession. I seem to remember Prost going into the pits multiple times as he dithered overt tyre choice. Other than that, not a lot of action )although it's nice to see aesthetically attractive F1 cars in action rather than the current ugly looking high nose shoe boxes).

jamesc

2,820 posts

284 months

Monday 15th November 2004
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manek said:
Does anyone still have the race on video -- in which case I'd love to borrow it...
I videoed the whole race; I gave it to the BRSCC archives. If you contact Martin Hadwen; I am sure he can do you a copy.

manek

2,972 posts

284 months

Monday 15th November 2004
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Thanks -- but weirdly, a day or so after leaving that message, I actually located a clip of that lap sitting on a tape I haven't touched for -- well, about 11 years!

>> Edited by manek on Monday 15th November 19:55

jamesc

2,820 posts

284 months

Monday 15th November 2004
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I may still have it; I will check. If I have I will send it to you.