RE: Historic Touring Cars Set To Return

[wiffy7]

Here it is

[Gregor Marshall]

Looks like I'll be getting my Droop Snoot Firenza racer out of the garage then!!

[80quattro]

James Thompson wins the BTCC in 1995, at age 21...
Door handle to door handle at Thruxton.

Awesome stuff

[rykard]

proper touring cars - fantastic !!!!

[freedman]

Would be nice to see a few of the less well known cars maybe

Alfasud (as per Jon Dooleys car)

Scirocco (Willi Bergmeisters Gp2 car)

even less likely but has anyone got one of theose Gp2 Skoda 120Rs? those things were insane back in teh day

[dinkel]

More Batmobile:








Nice stuff.

[Dommett]

There's already a great and healthy series run by the Classic Touring Car Racing Club, who run championships through the years.
I raced in it last season (2010) in a 1991 BMW 325, but against a couple of M3's, XJ12, Rover V8 etc, so didn't win funnily enough!

It's also the race series Jeremy Clarkson raced in in for his latest DVD. His car was at Top Gear Live.

http://www.csccgb.co.uk/

[snowen250]

Wiffy, there are plenty of series that would be perfect for your M3, Craig Davies races Stephen Hodgetts old RS500 in the Dunlop Motorsport News and Classic Thunder Series, would be great to have two original BTCC cars in their original liveries out on the circuit at once!

Simon

[Johnpidge]

Ah - proper racing again instead of rubbish FWD cars - worth watching this will be fun!!!!!

[wiffy7]

Did check the roll cage and fire extinguisher but nothing found! and if i did i wouldnt say The RS500 is in storage but will get some pics next time i'm there, thanks for asking.

[delS1]

Oh yes, good ol days. Although these were racing at Brands last year.







delS1

[Viana Motor Club]

Hello to the PistonHeads!Pleased to meet you.
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[Al Weyman]

Hang in I dont get this???? I have been racing my Chevy Camaro for the last 5 years in a Group 1 series with the Classic Touring Car Racing Club and a lot of those photos in the previous posts are from our races. So can someone explain why yet another historic race series is needed to thin the pot down yet again. We already have our club, Masters, HSCC, CSCC doingthis sort of thing and as for getting original cars out, well would you risk a £100,000 original in a club race?

BTW I wouldnt race in a combined Group 1 Group 2 race as I don't like being lapped. I see some of our front running cars in a Masters race with Gp1 and 2 cars and they were just also rans. Each to there own.

Edited by Al Weyman on Friday 3rd December 20:58

[snowen250]

Wondered when you'd see this Al, Hows the Yellow Camaro, be out next year?

[delS1]

Here you go, is this you Al






delS1

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[stacy]

Originally I was very puzzled about this thread. From the title "Set to Return", when as noted throughout, it already exists, through to the plentiful list of comments extolling the virtue of this new premise (which has you banging your head on your desk as, yes, it's already here), it made little sense to those with a little understanding of the current UK racing scene.

Then I was even more puzzled about why you would open the invites far and wide to Group 1, Group 2 and international cars too, as these are all very different regulations producing very different cars. Then the penny dropped.

While there are a few very good original cars in the CTCRC stable, most of them are replicas rather than the period piece. This news item talks about there being a number of "real" which I presume they mean "period" cars lying in garages that the owner might like to bring out because there isn't anywhere to race it currently. And enjoy a little paddock hob nobbing with like minded friends of course, which is the norm with this type of offering.

The broad church of regulations is required because yes, a number are still in garages, but most of the ones I know about are a Very Long Way from being race ready. Consequently the net needs to be wide to find a grid to speak of, even for 1 or 2 meetings a year.

That this series also seemingly has little in the way of mechanism for actually signing up and entering, and the only place carrying the news seems to be PH it smacks of more of a testing-of-the-water, rather than a culmination of weeks of quiet effort that has resulted in a grid of 30 cars to kick off.

In the meantime therefore, those who want to see cars of this era tail sliding around could do worse than going to see the (mostly) replicas 12 times a year with the CTCRC. Certainly they have every car running that has been added to this thread as far as I can see, and some are beautifully presented.

www.classictouringcars.com

There's also a full profile of them in the current TrackDriver magazine with selected cars as well (I built one; Steve Cripps RS2000, I bought one; Dave Scriven Toyota Supra Turbo, I want one; Andy Robinson Australian V8 Supercar Falcon). Unfortunately I believe it's gone to press so the free subscription offer won't get you this issue - it'll be the next 6, but it'll be on back issue.

www.trackdriver.com

S.

[scrivvy]

Small Car said:

This is nothing new is it? It's been running for years as the Classic Touring Club with pre 93, Group 1 etc. Great fun to watch and I had one of the cars that is back racing in the pre 93, the Supra, which I think has ended up third in this years Championship? Why is this one any different?

Thats right Guy, BTW we dont need another series,people should look at what the CTCRC has to offer first.

[apguy]

Setch993 said:

"We believe a lot of the genuine race cars still exist, sitting in garages, but they're not being brought out en masse as there isn't a series catering exclusively for them," says MLR's Duncan Wiltshire. "We hope to change all that.

Do you mean like this ?



Its a 1980/81 TE71 Toyota Corolla 1.6GT.

The car was rebuilt to be a replica of the winning Toyota-GB / Hughes of Beaconsfield Touring Car as driven by Win Percy in the 1982 championship, and raced in the CSCC Group 1 series in 1994 (when it was the overall winner) and in 1995.

I bought it approx 12 months ago, it has its homologation papers and is complete and untouched. I have been wondering what to do with it....might know now

I used to race against this.

My profile shows my 1981 RS1600i in Group One Touring Car spec, but at the time I had a Talbot Sunbeam Ti also in Group One spec.

Parts, specifically the gearbox, was the one of the reasons that the Corolla was retired. There just aren't the homologated parts around and the popular Ford T9 isn't an eligible swap. Shame.

[apguy]

2SPN said:

Some 2000-2002 period CSCC Group 1 Touring Car pics;



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Ah, and there's my Sunbeam Ti as mentioned above.

There's just no need for this series. It already exists: Group One Touring Cars www.csccgb.co.uk

[scrivvy]

apguy said:

Setch993 said:

"We believe a lot of the genuine race cars still exist, sitting in garages, but they're not being brought out en masse as there isn't a series catering exclusively for them," says MLR's Duncan Wiltshire. "We hope to change all that.

Do you mean like this ?



Its a 1980/81 TE71 Toyota Corolla 1.6GT.

The car was rebuilt to be a replica of the winning Toyota-GB / Hughes of Beaconsfield Touring Car as driven by Win Percy in the 1982 championship, and raced in the CSCC Group 1 series in 1994 (when it was the overall winner) and in 1995.

I bought it approx 12 months ago, it has its homologation papers and is complete and untouched. I have been wondering what to do with it....might know now

I used to race against this.

My profile shows my 1981 RS1600i in Group One Touring Car spec, but at the time I had a Talbot Sunbeam Ti also in Group One spec.

Parts, specifically the gearbox, was the one of the reasons that the Corolla was retired. There just aren't the homologated parts around and the popular Ford T9 isn't an eligible swap. Shame.

Old group oners never die they just live on pistonheads
Scrivvy