The Land and Water Speed Records Thread

The Land and Water Speed Records Thread

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DJC

23,563 posts

237 months

Monday 24th January 2011
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It doesnt vastly matter about the safety cells to be perfectly honest, if you hit the water at 400mph you are dead. End of.
Hit at 250 and you might start surviving with a decent safety cell, so its the decrease of risk across the envelope that is being developed, rather than surviving the end game per se.

The trick in not departing the envelope is all in the aeros and for that its the control system, which yes would be extortionately expensive to develop unless you knew the correct people. If you do, then its knowing what you want, what has been developed and what you could wangle. Its then about knowing what works with what. The materials side is a piece of piss and can subbed out on a PR exercise.


As to driving it, IF and I fully accepts its a big if, I ever manage to get this thing going, only one person is stepping into that cockpit and thats me.

Life Saab Itch

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37,068 posts

189 months

Monday 24th January 2011
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DJC, if I get some thoughts together in a vaguely coherrent sentence structure, would you mind if I PM'd you?

DJC

23,563 posts

237 months

Monday 24th January 2011
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If you want.

Dont blame me if the answer you get back is complete bks though, I offer no gaurantees that I know what Im talking about.

Life Saab Itch

Original Poster:

37,068 posts

189 months

Monday 24th January 2011
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DJC said:
If you want.

Dont blame me if the answer you get back is complete bks though, I offer no gaurantees that I know what Im talking about.
woohoo

A kindred spirit. hehe

chevronb37

6,471 posts

187 months

Monday 24th January 2011
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Bit of testing on the banking at Brooklands. Squint and it could be Bonneville...


Life Saab Itch

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37,068 posts

189 months

Monday 24th January 2011
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Brave man!

DJC

23,563 posts

237 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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And to think, it took MacLaren and Ferrari 40years to catch up with their nose designs for the M23-26 and 312 smile

Life Saab Itch

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37,068 posts

189 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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"Dinky's 2:1 series was not as successful as previous products"

yoof full chav

38,831 posts

188 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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So do we reckon Garlick and Mr Will could be persuaded to try and break that pushbike LSR?? They ride bicycles fairly regularly, surely they could do that with a bit of technical know how??

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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I wonder, could a hovercraft be used to set the land speed record? I know it is technically not on the ground but it creates lift by pushing against the ground.

With considerably less friction a hovercraft should be better for this, however the fastest speed achieved in a hovercraft is apparently only 85mph!

yoof full chav

38,831 posts

188 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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MSTRBKR said:
I wonder, could a hovercraft be used to set the land speed record? I know it is technically not on the ground but it creates lift by pushing against the ground.

With considerably less friction a hovercraft should be better for this, however the fastest speed achieved in a hovercraft is apparently only 85mph!
No idea, but i wouldnt mind betting it would be a new LSR as no-one has tried it yet.

chevronb37

6,471 posts

187 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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yoof full chav said:
So do we reckon Garlick and Mr Will could be persuaded to try and break that pushbike LSR?? They ride bicycles fairly regularly, surely they could do that with a bit of technical know how??
This bike was at Brooklands a couple of years ago and set an LSR for pedalbikes apparently. Something in the order of 200mph I recall. My friend is pointing out the tagline "Ultimate Bike". Very mature...


yoof full chav

38,831 posts

188 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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chevronb37 said:
yoof full chav said:
So do we reckon Garlick and Mr Will could be persuaded to try and break that pushbike LSR?? They ride bicycles fairly regularly, surely they could do that with a bit of technical know how??
This bike was at Brooklands a couple of years ago and set an LSR for pedalbikes apparently. Something in the order of 200mph I recall. My friend is pointing out the tagline "Ultimate Bike". Very mature...

As far as i know, it's still held by a guy from the netherlands, and it stands at 167mph or there abouts

Scuffers

20,887 posts

275 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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Wiki said:
Fred Rompelberg (born 30 October 1945 in Maastricht) is a Dutch cyclist who has set several world cycling records. He is mainly known for his eleven world records cycling behind heavy engines, and for taking several attempts to break the Absolute World Speed Record Cycling. On 3 October 1995 he cycled behind a motor dragster on the Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah, with a speed of 268.831 kilometers an hour (167.044 mph).

FourWheelDrift

88,552 posts

285 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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It was 207.9mph on fixed rollers.

Here's the description that goes with the bike at Brooklands.



Apologies for crap photo, that was via my phone being held up at an odd angle to get it.

yoof full chav

38,831 posts

188 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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FourWheelDrift said:
It was 207.9mph on fixed rollers.

Here's the description that goes with the bike at Brooklands.



Apologies for crap photo, that was via my phone being held up at an odd angle to get it.
Hmmmmm, that might explain the difference in speed then, because the guiness book of world records has fred rompelberg down as the holder of the bicycle land speed record, and he took the record of the guy who set it at 153mph, an american. Weird that nobody mentions the bruce burford fella then, but maybe because it's on rollers they dont recognise it.


Ahhhhh that's why, because his run simulated being towed upto 100mph, then he pedals on, whereas rompelberg pedalled all the way, even if it was behind another vehicle, he still did all the pedalling himself, so maybe thats why his record is the official LSR


Edited by yoof full chav on Tuesday 25th January 19:18

Scuffers

20,887 posts

275 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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either way, I am not sure I would want to be dressed in Lycra on a bike at 150+ Mph.....

yoof full chav

38,831 posts

188 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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Scuffers said:
either way, I am not sure I would want to be dressed in Lycra on a bike at 150+ Mph.....
Well no, if it goes wrong, then you will only have time to say "shi.." before it's all gone very painfull for, i should imagine, a very short period of time

FunkyNige

8,891 posts

276 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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I don't understand how you can claim a world record by cycling on rollers, wouldn't that be like going for the car world record on a rolling road?

Life Saab Itch

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37,068 posts

189 months

Tuesday 25th January 2011
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FunkyNige said:
I don't understand how you can claim a world record by cycling on rollers, wouldn't that be like going for the car world record on a rolling road?
Quite. Why not eliminate friction and just jack the back wheel up. I reckon I could beat the unofficial record that way. rolleyes