F1 - yawn

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neilsie

952 posts

247 months

Tuesday 11th May 2004
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5150 said:
It's a sad state of affairs when doing the washing-up is more interesting than watching the F1.

At least MotoGP and SBK are on next weekend......


uy betcha, and i'm off to le Mans to see em! am i gloating or what?!!

jpf

1,312 posts

277 months

Tuesday 11th May 2004
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Being new to F1, I was wondering if the problem lies in the design of the race tracks. How can Monaco be exciting when you can't pass? Maybe the 'ring is a better place for F1 for example.
Otherwise, how about more rain? My kids still think last years Brazilian GP was the best of the season.

FourWheelDrift

88,557 posts

285 months

Tuesday 11th May 2004
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jpf said:
Maybe the 'ring is a better place for F1 for example.


The Ring was just a processional as Monaco, except longer.

Frik

13,542 posts

244 months

Tuesday 11th May 2004
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FourWheelDrift said:

jpf said:
Maybe the 'ring is a better place for F1 for example.



The Ring was just a processional as Monaco, except longer.
Impossible to pass on and a git to marshal.

Raify

6,552 posts

249 months

Wednesday 12th May 2004
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I can't believe it! ITV are repeating it.

IN FULL

eric mc

122,058 posts

266 months

Wednesday 12th May 2004
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There is no point in contimuing to change race tracks to "enable" F1 cars to pass each other. You end up with soulless, bleak expanses of tarmac and sand (shows you how "ideal" locations such as Bahrain are becoming). Rather than changing the geography to suit the cars, it should be the other way around. In fact, that was always one of the fundamentals of Grand Prix racing i.e. that its original concept was racing on public roads. The notion of specially designed artificial circuits was hardly entertained. I'm not saying we can return to the notion of closing down public roads but I think circuits should have a "natural" topography to them - Brands Hatch, Oulton Park and the old Nurburgring being perfect examples of this. And they are also examples of tracks where it was F1 cars were once a common site and are now sadly lost to the F1 fan - at least the modern ones.

pwig

11,956 posts

271 months

Wednesday 12th May 2004
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Apart from Spa? Melbourne? Montreal?

pwig

11,956 posts

271 months

Wednesday 12th May 2004
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Oh and Monaco

daydreamer

1,409 posts

258 months

Wednesday 12th May 2004
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pwig said:
Oh and Monaco
Maybe - bud judging by the number of F1 is boring threads doing the rounds at the moment - is it wise to bring up Monaco. I believe the last overtaking moment there was sometime in the late 70's

eric mc

122,058 posts

266 months

Wednesday 12th May 2004
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Spa and Montreal are hanging onto their GP by a thread.

Montreal amd Melbourne are, of course, park circuits which are somewhere between true road tracks and specially designed circuits. Spa is a combination of a true road track and a specially designed (but still fantastic) section. The point I was making was that there are so few tracks left like that - and sonn there may be none.

The best of the "artificial" tracks, I think, is now Suzuka.

Monaco, is, of course, an anachronism. Drivers with guts and willing to take a chance can still get by. However, nobody bothers much anymore. In 1985 (I think), Alboretto overtook Prost THREE times in the course of the race. He had to stop for tyres a couple of times and each time he came out he found himself behind Prost.

The traditional passing spots at Monaco were Saint Devote and the dive into The Mirabeau Hairpin. Mirabeau has been made more difficult because the barrier on the right hand side of the road is now right on the edge of the footpath. Up to about 1987 there was no barrier there at all and drivers could put their right hand wheels up on the footpath to get a bit of extra room.

RedTeg

1,928 posts

282 months

Wednesday 12th May 2004
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tvrforever said:
Howvere it did include the funny interview quote of the year so far for me...

With the King of Spain asking Martin Brundle for his phone number....

How good must Mr Brundle feel? - quality....


I wonder what Bernie was pulling at Martin and saying to him just before that. I always get the impression that Martin is trying hard not beat that little troll to death. I'd love to hear Martin's true opinions of Bernie and James Allen (When they were both on camera before the race Martin gave him a wtf are you talking about look)