Best roads near Munich

[Pulse]

Me and a friend are popping over to Munich to drive one of the BMW On Demand cars (likely an M2/M3), and I'm wondering where we should go for 'best' roads. Ideally with something decent on that route, as we will have all day (9-5).

There's a mileage limit of 450km, but we can exceed this if we chuck in a few more pennies.

Any advice?

[dcb]

Pulse said:

Me and a friend are popping over to Munich to drive one of the BMW On Demand cars (likely an M2/M3), and I'm wondering where we should go for 'best' roads. Ideally with something decent on that route, as we will have all day (9-5).

There's a mileage limit of 450km, but we can exceed this if we chuck in a few more pennies.

Any advice?

I have always liked the A8 from the Mittelring to Rosenheim. Ok once
outside the A99 is gets a bit busy, but some lovely Vmax runs all the same.

I've had good results on the A8 out to Augsburg. Now it is four lanes
each way no limits, it's a fast road. 120 mph in lane 2. Faster traffic
in lanes 3 and 4.

The A96 out to Memmingen and Buchloe are good. I think there's a well known
manufacturer based in Buchloe that uses the local autobahn for test runs.

A9 north of Munich usually quite busy, but plenty of lanes, excellent
lane discipline and if you catch it when it's quiet, it can be fun to
hammer over the rolling hills of Bavaria at 140 mph.

Of course, Austria is only a few km south of Garmisch, if you want to
do it English style and turn a few hilly corners. There's hardly a km
of straight road in Austria.

[BertieWooster]

Pulse said:

Me and a friend are popping over to Munich to drive one of the BMW On Demand cars (likely an M2/M3), and I'm wondering where we should go for 'best' roads. Ideally with something decent on that route, as we will have all day (9-5).

There's a mileage limit of 450km, but we can exceed this if we chuck in a few more pennies.

Any advice?

Couple of options I would recommend.

First is to head out along the A92 towards Deggendorf - fairly quiet compared to other autobahns around Munich so you can drive at high speed for quite a while. Then head south on the A3 towards Passau. Take the B12 and A94 to Altötting and then head down the B299 to Chiemsee. Head back into Munich along the A8 and A99. This is within the 450km limit.

Option 2 is A95 down to Garmisch-Partenkirchen. Cross over into Austria and take the 179-198-200 towards Lindau. Then up the A92 to Munich. This route has a lot of winding mountain roads but will go over the 450km limit.

[Pulse]

Thanks both. I'm not sure we'd be allowed to take it in to Austria, and the hassles that may bring even if we do.

I'm targeting twists and turns, rather than autobahn which doesn't interest me at all. What would be the best place to head? The alternative is to head down to Konigsee for the views, and not worry too much about the roads we're on, but that'd be a shame since we have an M2 booked now!

[Pulse]

How does this look?

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/BMW+Welt/Pfronte...

[Pulse]

The other option is something like this.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/BMW+Welt/Reit+im...

[Yipper]

Munich to Berchtesgaden to Garmisch to Munich.

[Pulse]

Yipper said:

Munich to Berchtesgaden to Garmisch to Munich.

A bit like this, perhaps? https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/BMW+Welt/Berchte...

[Yipper]

Pulse said:

Yipper said:

Munich to Berchtesgaden to Garmisch to Munich.

A bit like this, perhaps? https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/BMW+Welt/Berchte...

Looks good. Takes in plenty of hill and mountain roads. You can, of course, always veer off to side-roads along the way if they look twistier and narrower.

[Pulse]

Yipper said:

Looks good. Takes in plenty of hill and mountain roads. You can, of course, always veer off to side-roads along the way if they look twistier and narrower.

Cheers. Sounds like a route to stick to then! I'll report back once we've been.

[NSNO]

Slightly off topic but just reading this thread and it sparked my internet as I'm going to be in Europe in a months time and like the sound of this. How does it work, looking at the website, they charge you a maximum of three hours per day, but you can use it for the full period. Is this right?

Can you book it for a few days at a time?

Do you have to book far in advance?

[Pulse]

NSNO said:

Slightly off topic but just reading this thread and it sparked my internet as I'm going to be in Europe in a months time and like the sound of this. How does it work, looking at the website, they charge you a maximum of three hours per day, but you can use it for the full period. Is this right?

Can you book it for a few days at a time?

Do you have to book far in advance?

They charge you three hours per day, and three hours per night. If you wanted it for a few days, this is possible, but it would be very expensive - essentially, 300 euros per day for the M2, for example. The periods (because let's face it, you're never going to rent it for just an hour) are 9am-5pm and 5pm-9am.

If you're booking '3 hours' (9-5), you get 450km included in that - 150km for each hour you've actually paid for. More than enough for a day trip out. If you had it for a few days, then you'd have plenty of allowance.

You DEFINITELY need to book in advance if you want a specific car. They release day-by-day, 28 days in advance. We booked ours on the day of release, as the M cars are very popular.

[Dannythemusicman]

Pulse said:

A bit like this, perhaps? https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/BMW+Welt/Berchte...

If you are heading toward Berchtesgaden, I suggest you tag on a few more miles and try and complete this:

http://www.rossfeldpanoramastrasse.de/en/

Toll road so pretty quiet and some stunning views.

[BertieWooster]

Pulse said:

Thanks both. I'm not sure we'd be allowed to take it in to Austria, and the hassles that may bring even if we do.

I'm targeting twists and turns, rather than autobahn which doesn't interest me at all. What would be the best place to head? The alternative is to head down to Konigsee for the views, and not worry too much about the roads we're on, but that'd be a shame since we have an M2 booked now!

You can take them into Austria as I have done it before with BMW after checking with the staff that it was ok. The only thing you would need to do is buy a vignette if you went on the Austrian autobahns.

If you want twists and turns then I would definitely recommend taking the 307 past Schliersee and through Bayrischzell. Only downside is that it can be very popular with bikers and the polizei like to hang around there as a result.

An alternative route to the one you posted up could be this.

[dcb]

Dannythemusicman said:

If you are heading toward Berchtesgaden, I suggest you tag on a few more miles and try and complete this:

http://www.rossfeldpanoramastrasse.de/en/

Toll road so pretty quiet and some stunning views.

+1

Been there, done that, excellent road.

[Pulse]

Thanks for the feedback. Bertie, the 307 looks excellent, so I have adjusted the route a bit to take it in (and also taken in the toll road at Wallgau, since it seems to make sense).

The route is 350km, so we have another 100km to play with (if we want to). Any recommendations for what to add on? Also, is the route any good?

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/BMW+Welt,+Am+Oly...

[Pulse]

Pulse said:

Thanks for the feedback. Bertie, the 307 looks excellent, so I have adjusted the route a bit to take it in (and also taken in the toll road at Wallgau, since it seems to make sense).

The route is 350km, so we have another 100km to play with (if we want to). Any recommendations for what to add on? Also, is the route any good?

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/BMW+Welt,+Am+Oly...

ETA: I assume that the bit near Achenwald where we'd briefly go in to Austria is not a toll road, and therefore doesn't matter much?

[dcb]

Pulse said:

Thanks for the feedback. Bertie, the 307 looks excellent, so I have adjusted the route a bit to take it in (and also taken in the toll road at Wallgau, since it seems to make sense).

The route is 350km, so we have another 100km to play with (if we want to). Any recommendations for what to add on? Also, is the route any good?

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/BMW+Welt,+Am+Oly...

Looks pretty good to me. Minor quibble in hacking about in SE suburban Munich to get onto
the A8. Me, I'd head from BMW Welt onto the A9 North and then A99 East.

Tegernsee is a nice place, if a bit posh and expensive for some.

You might also consider tacking on a bit of Austria from Achenwald, by
driving over to Jenbach.

Mittenwald is a nice place. Garmisch attracts all the international tourists, but
Mittenwald misses out on them.

Not sure why Eibsee is on the list, especially since you've got Tegernsee on.
Maybe a quick shufti at Zugspitze instead ?

[Pulse]

dcb said:

Looks pretty good to me. Minor quibble in hacking about in SE suburban Munich to get onto
the A8. Me, I'd head from BMW Welt onto the A9 North and then A99 East.

Tegernsee is a nice place, if a bit posh and expensive for some.

You might also consider tacking on a bit of Austria from Achenwald, by
driving over to Jenbach.

Mittenwald is a nice place. Garmisch attracts all the international tourists, but
Mittenwald misses out on them.

Not sure why Eibsee is on the list, especially since you've got Tegernsee on.
Maybe a quick shufti at Zugspitze instead ?

First paragraph - agree, though it's the home leg we do that, around 5pm (rush hour on a Monday). What would be our best option then? A99?

Third paragraph - want to avoid Austria just to save hassle, ideally.

Mittenwald isn't on the route at the moment, but if it's worth it, we could stop there briefly. We need somewhere on the route to get late breakfast / lunch and possibly late lunch / dinner / snack. Any recommendations?

Eibsee was on the list for this view, but if it's not worth it, we won't bother... It was to see Zugspitze in the background. What do you think?

[Pulse]

Also, I'd heard the A8 can be a bit of a dog at times. Is that still the case? Would it be worth diverting via the 15 and 304 on the return? Here's the route with your one change put in.

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/BMW+Welt,+Am+Oly...