Motorbike hits stationary car

Motorbike hits stationary car

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Jheanelle

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16 posts

74 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Hi guys
I’m very confused at the outcome of this.
I drive a 1.2L Mini Cooper and had emerged from the traffic lights to slowly moving traffic the lane on my left was a bus lane and a bus stop. As I checked the road to pull into the road to the left I moved my car slightly into the next lane and stopped as the road in front of me had a cycle lane, pedestrians and a white van coming out of the right lane. A motorbike (which I am told by witnesses came at speed) hit my car, I don’t think he could see me and there are cars behind me holding back until it’s safe to completely move into the road. He came off his bike at about 1 metre from my car and as I checked him over the pedestrians became angry and started shouting that he was driving dangerously. I calmed them down and stated it doesn’t matter as I wanted to check that he was ok which he was. The ambulance came and checked him over and said he was fine, his bike was pretty much unscathed and he had a loose front right light, however he has damaged my car very badly. He is now not admitting liability. I have sent pictures to the insurance company and requested that they look at CCTV footage however the witnesses I took numbers for are only saying how he was speeding at tried to brake but failed due to his speed and are unsure whether they saw my car in stationary. I’m beyond shocked and in disbelief that this gentleman is not admitting liability, it was rush hour with crawling traffic and the damage to my car clearly shows it’s the impact of the bike on my car and not on his bike. I think he’s trying to say that I was turning and hit him. Hopefully I can upload images of my car Position in the Road following the accident as it gives an indication to the road. But what I want to know is will he get away with this?

Jheanelle

Original Poster:

16 posts

74 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Jheanelle said:
Hi guys
I’m very confused at the outcome of this.
I drive a 1.2L Mini Cooper and had emerged from the traffic lights to slowly moving traffic the lane on my left was a bus lane and a bus stop. As I checked the road to pull into the road to the left I moved my car slightly into the next lane and stopped as the road in front of me had a cycle lane, pedestrians and a white van coming out of the right lane. A motorbike (which I am told by witnesses came at speed) hit my car, I don’t think he could see me and there are cars behind me holding back until it’s safe to completely move into the road. He came off his bike at about 1 metre from my car and as I checked him over the pedestrians became angry and started shouting that he was driving dangerously. I calmed them down and stated it doesn’t matter as I wanted to check that he was ok which he was. The ambulance came and checked him over and said he was fine, his bike was pretty much unscathed and he had a loose front right light, however he has damaged my car very badly. He is now not admitting liability. I have sent pictures to the insurance company and requested that they look at CCTV footage however the witnesses I took numbers for are only saying how he was speeding at tried to brake but failed due to his speed and are unsure whether they saw my car in stationary. I’m beyond shocked and in disbelief that this gentleman is not admitting liability, it was rush hour with crawling traffic and the damage to my car clearly shows it’s the impact of the bike on my car and not on his bike. I think he’s trying to say that I was turning and hit him. Hopefully I can upload images of my car Position in the Road following the accident as it gives an indication to the road. But what I want to know is will he get away with this?

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

198 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Jheanelle said:
looks like you left hooked the poor sod

Jheanelle

Original Poster:

16 posts

74 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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I was in this position before he hit my car to left hook I would have to be moving? May I add my car was in this position as the cycle lane in front had pedestrians behind it

SHutchinson

2,040 posts

184 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Jheanelle said:
Jheanelle said:
Hi guys
I’m very confused at the outcome of this.
I drive a 1.2L Mini Cooper and had emerged from the traffic lights to slowly moving traffic the lane on my left was a bus lane and a bus stop. As I checked the road to pull into the road to the left I moved my car slightly into the next lane and stopped as the road in front of me had a cycle lane, pedestrians and a white van coming out of the right lane. A motorbike (which I am told by witnesses came at speed) hit my car, I don’t think he could see me and there are cars behind me holding back until it’s safe to completely move into the road. He came off his bike at about 1 metre from my car and as I checked him over the pedestrians became angry and started shouting that he was driving dangerously. I calmed them down and stated it doesn’t matter as I wanted to check that he was ok which he was. The ambulance came and checked him over and said he was fine, his bike was pretty much unscathed and he had a loose front right light, however he has damaged my car very badly. He is now not admitting liability. I have sent pictures to the insurance company and requested that they look at CCTV footage however the witnesses I took numbers for are only saying how he was speeding at tried to brake but failed due to his speed and are unsure whether they saw my car in stationary. I’m beyond shocked and in disbelief that this gentleman is not admitting liability, it was rush hour with crawling traffic and the damage to my car clearly shows it’s the impact of the bike on my car and not on his bike. I think he’s trying to say that I was turning and hit him. Hopefully I can upload images of my car Position in the Road following the accident as it gives an indication to the road. But what I want to know is will he get away with this?
So, you pulled forward into a bus/non-car lane and then stopped then the motorcycle came into contact with your vehicle?

boyse7en

6,725 posts

165 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Was the motorbike riding in the cycle lane?

The Selfish Gene

5,505 posts

210 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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was he injured?

The Selfish Gene

5,505 posts

210 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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looking at the amount of damage to your car - I'd say he hit the car pretty hard. I'd be amazed if he wasn't hurt in that shunt.

If you were stationary as you say, one could argue he was filtering at a higher speed than maybe sensible. Non of that is illegal though.

So when you say get away with it - it's an accident, he hasn't done anything wrong assuming not breaking the speed limit of the road.

Reckon insurance will do a 50/50

The Selfish Gene

5,505 posts

210 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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if of course you were not stationary, changed lanes without looking - then it's more % your fault, depending on if he was breaking the speed limit but insurance will probably still do a 50/50

Jheanelle

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16 posts

74 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Hi all it may be better to upload another image I haven’t pulled into a bus lane. Where the vehicle is behind me is where my vehicle was when indicating into the left lane (not a bus lane at this point) I was in stationary as there were pedestrians crossing and he rode into my car. Will put more images up but you will need to click on the image to see full view of the road. I appreciate all comments. It has been confirmed that there is cctv (thank god) to show I was in position with indicators before he drove in that lane

The Selfish Gene

5,505 posts

210 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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did he or his motorbike not hit the pedestrians that were crossing in front of your car?

Jheanelle

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74 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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The Selfish Gene

5,505 posts

210 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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also - you've just said you moved across from where the other car is? How long were you stationary before the vehicles made contact?

Starting to sound like you moved over without looking and took a motorbike out to be honest!

Jheanelle

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16 posts

74 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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The Selfish Gene said:
did he or his motorbike not hit the pedestrians that were crossing in front of your car?
Hi I’ve included an image of the road so you can can get a better idea
The witnesses have said he was speeding and tried to brake when he saw my vehicle hence going into the side of my car

The Selfish Gene

5,505 posts

210 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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witnesses generally have no clue about speeding - so that may or may not be true. People accuse motorbikes of speeding all the time, because they are motorbikes and sound different!

still think you'll get a 50/50

How was the motorcyclist? Was he hurt and you're worried you're in trouble? I'm confused myself!

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

198 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Jheanelle said:
The Selfish Gene said:
did he or his motorbike not hit the pedestrians that were crossing in front of your car?
Hi I’ve included an image of the road so you can can get a better idea
The witnesses have said he was speeding and tried to brake when he saw my vehicle hence going into the side of my car
Where are the witnesses qualifications and calibrated equipment cetificates to enable them to qualify that statement ?

Loud does not equal Fast

Jheanelle

Original Poster:

16 posts

74 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Hi all my left lane was clear after the bus lane stopped so I moved to the lane as it was safe to do so. However could not turn into the road ahead as pedestrians were crossing. I would say it was about 5 seconds stationary before he hit my car and he wasn’t at the traffic lights with me (4 car spaces Back) I was ahead of the traffic lights (first car)

The Selfish Gene

5,505 posts

210 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Jheanelle said:
Hi all my left lane was clear after the bus lane stopped so I moved to the lane as it was safe to do so. However could not turn into the road ahead as pedestrians were crossing. I would say it was about 5 seconds stationary before he hit my car and he wasn’t at the traffic lights with me (4 car spaces Back) I was ahead of the traffic lights (first car)
is the rider injured?

boyse7en

6,725 posts

165 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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Jheanelle said:
So was your car roughly where the blue car is, turning left into the side road, and the motorcycle was filtering up the inside (between you and the curb)?

Jheanelle

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16 posts

74 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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The Selfish Gene said:
witnesses generally have no clue about speeding - so that may or may not be true. People accuse motorbikes of speeding all the time, because they are motorbikes and sound different!

still think you'll get a 50/50

How was the motorcyclist? Was he hurt and you're worried you're in trouble? I'm confused myself!
First and foremost I am a NURSE! I have a duty of care
All of that went out the back window as my main priority was that both parties were ok?! Which they were. He was checked over by an ambulance and sent home and he rode off on his bike. The road on the left has a chicane separating from the traffic light which would suggest he was at some point in the lane I was in and turned into the left whilst my vehicle was already stationary. He admitted he was riding more than 30mph on a 20mph Road and the distance from the chicane of the bus lane to where the lane is for normal travel is no longer than 3 car spaces or the length of a bus