Roadside rubbish... any HE staff here?
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Castrol for a knave said:
It's always the same parasites who do this, See it all the time, knackered old povo 1 series, fat girlfriend, dinner for 2 at Burger King out of the window.
That is one stereotype ; but others are available - such as work-boot wearing, sweary labourers or farm workers in crew cab pick ups called Predator , Stalker or Violator. Often seen outside Greggs at 745 am , too lazy to make their own breakfasts . Oh , and a sizeable proportion of BTCC crowds , A few months at our local Tesco, we saw a woman sitting in her (quite new) SUV at the 'pick up' bay. She opened her window and threw out a chocolate wrapper.
My wife thought this was unacceptable, especially as there was a litter bin literally no more than two meters away from her passenger door. She picked it up, tapped on her window and handed it back to her, "you've dropped something" she told her.
As soon as my wife walked away, she dropped it out the window again and drove off.
She had two young kids in the car, too.
Baffling, and depressing behaviour.
My wife thought this was unacceptable, especially as there was a litter bin literally no more than two meters away from her passenger door. She picked it up, tapped on her window and handed it back to her, "you've dropped something" she told her.
As soon as my wife walked away, she dropped it out the window again and drove off.
She had two young kids in the car, too.
Baffling, and depressing behaviour.
Have a look at the verges on sliproads of some of the major road junctions, particularly on the drivers side. It never ceases to amaze me how much litter is lobbed out of windows here, a lot of them being drinks cups.
The ones near me that I have noticed that are particularly bad are J28 of the M1 northbound exit and the sliproad onto the A38 southbound from the A50/Toyota Island in Derbyshire.
The ones near me that I have noticed that are particularly bad are J28 of the M1 northbound exit and the sliproad onto the A38 southbound from the A50/Toyota Island in Derbyshire.
Community Service is alive and well (maybe not on the roadside) as we've had a few helping out at some community footie pitches.
Some people get caught, but it's rare:
https://westbridgfordwire.com/resident-to-pay-over...
Some people get caught, but it's rare:
https://westbridgfordwire.com/resident-to-pay-over...
Dylano said:
Grumps. said:
Community service is a great idea and used to work quite well, so not sure why it’s no longer used.
I'd imagine a combination of elf n' safety and 'ooman rights render it unworkable now.I live by a laybye on an A road and pick up the rubbish regularly along my stretch. Contractors do it elsewhere but too dangerous for convicts to do it apparently; but ok for those of us doing it for nothing or those working for a living. I don’t get it.
The most depressing thing is how the UK now looks compared to other European countries. I spend a lot of time on the road in France, and spent many years been shuttling between Denmark, Germany and Spain.
Coming from France to the UK now feels like coming to some Indian or African slum, vast amounts of litter strewn along virtually every road, and potholes so numerous and dangerous I would now never ride a motorbike after dark on any unknown road. I did a quick tour of England over last Christmas and new year, it is the same virtually everywhere and it has become far worse in recent years.
It is said that having left the EU the UK is now a ‘3rd country’. Sadly, the term ‘3rd world country’ would be more accurate.
Coming from France to the UK now feels like coming to some Indian or African slum, vast amounts of litter strewn along virtually every road, and potholes so numerous and dangerous I would now never ride a motorbike after dark on any unknown road. I did a quick tour of England over last Christmas and new year, it is the same virtually everywhere and it has become far worse in recent years.
It is said that having left the EU the UK is now a ‘3rd country’. Sadly, the term ‘3rd world country’ would be more accurate.
Scarletpimpofnel said:
...Still don’t see why the litter picking can’t be done constantly by those going community service.
Most likely the red tape and cost it would take in getting each of these people trained/qualified and kitted out to work on the motorway for what would be in most cases a short amount of time.HelterSkelter said:
Scarletpimpofnel said:
...Still don’t see why the litter picking can’t be done constantly by those going community service.
Most likely the red tape and cost it would take in getting each of these people trained/qualified and kitted out to work on the motorway for what would be in most cases a short amount of time.Scarletpimpofnel said:
I know you’re right. But I live on an A road and go along the stretch near my house with a black bag regularly. I have no trg etc but do it perfectly well.
Of course in theory anyone is capable of walking along a verge picking up litter it really isn't rocket science, but in the health and safety and human rights obsessed clown world we live in its not quite that straight forward.
Calinours said:
The most depressing thing is how the UK now looks compared to other European countries. I spend a lot of time on the road in France, and spent many years been shuttling between Denmark, Germany and Spain.
Coming from France to the UK now feels like coming to some Indian or African slum, vast amounts of litter strewn along virtually every road, and potholes so numerous and dangerous I would now never ride a motorbike after dark on any unknown road. I did a quick tour of England over last Christmas and new year, it is the same virtually everywhere and it has become far worse in recent years.
It is said that having left the EU the UK is now a ‘3rd country’. Sadly, the term ‘3rd world country’ would be more accurate.
Same here, I spend a lot of time in Germany, Sweden and Denmark. They're not perfect, but the roads are vastly better, cites are generally cleaner and safer. Landing at Luton Airport after taking off from Hamburg, Copenhagen or Zurich is embarrassing. Coming from France to the UK now feels like coming to some Indian or African slum, vast amounts of litter strewn along virtually every road, and potholes so numerous and dangerous I would now never ride a motorbike after dark on any unknown road. I did a quick tour of England over last Christmas and new year, it is the same virtually everywhere and it has become far worse in recent years.
It is said that having left the EU the UK is now a ‘3rd country’. Sadly, the term ‘3rd world country’ would be more accurate.
Dylano said:
Scarletpimpofnel said:
I know you’re right. But I live on an A road and go along the stretch near my house with a black bag regularly. I have no trg etc but do it perfectly well.
Of course in theory anyone is capable of walking along a verge picking up litter it really isn't rocket science, but in the health and safety and human rights obsessed clown world we live in its not quite that straight forward.
Society pays people to pick litter already. Thus it’s not degrading or humiliating. Those who litter are anti social at best. Young offenders should be required to go out and litter pick whilst wearing a US style outfit denoting they are prisoners.
Taking them, under supervision, to twin centres during evenings and weekends and requiring them to pick litter would serve as a visible deterrent to others.
It would also go some way to stripping prison of any ‘mystique’ or sense of danger that it appears to hold for some.
Doubtless it comes with a cost but longer term a price worth paying. Far more worthwhile than the current situation- long periods of lock up followed by access to PlayStation and exercise.
Taking them, under supervision, to twin centres during evenings and weekends and requiring them to pick litter would serve as a visible deterrent to others.
It would also go some way to stripping prison of any ‘mystique’ or sense of danger that it appears to hold for some.
Doubtless it comes with a cost but longer term a price worth paying. Far more worthwhile than the current situation- long periods of lock up followed by access to PlayStation and exercise.
Unfortunately we all know how and why all the takeaway packaging ends up on the side of the road. The one that really baffles me is accident debris. There is an accident, police arrive, sweep all the debris to the side of the road and leave it.
Is it too much work to put it into the car it came off so it gets recovered with the car?
Is it too much work to put it into the car it came off so it gets recovered with the car?
I can't be sure how it works for the Midlands, but in the East Region on A-Roads the verge, hard shoulders and laybys are the responsibility of the local council to keep tidy. National Highways pays huge sums to contractors to maintain the motorway sections but, in practice, they pocket the money and do nothing unless forced by the Control Room.
As noted above, I cannot believe the general public are so ignorant as to leave litter in the first place, there's really no excuse.
As noted above, I cannot believe the general public are so ignorant as to leave litter in the first place, there's really no excuse.
Krikkit said:
One of the only things about the US prison system they get right is using them for cheap labour - we should do the same and have people out picking litter etc.
The root cause is simple - selfish people and cash strapped councils thanks to Tory austerity.
Yes, the Tory party are making people throw rubbish out of their windows.The root cause is simple - selfish people and cash strapped councils thanks to Tory austerity.
Megaflow said:
Unfortunately we all know how and why all the takeaway packaging ends up on the side of the road. The one that really baffles me is accident debris. There is an accident, police arrive, sweep all the debris to the side of the road and leave it.
Is it too much work to put it into the car it came off so it gets recovered with the car?
When my Fiesta was written off by a Freelander last summer a council pickup turned up. The two man crew swept up and took away all the glass and small pieces of both cars then dealt with the coolant and oil on the road.Is it too much work to put it into the car it came off so it gets recovered with the car?
A couple of weeks later I received a letter asking which driver was at fault (it wasn't me) so they could send an invoice.
We'd called for an ambulance but the police also attended so presumably they notified the council.
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