A5004 -- 50mph

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sparkey

Original Poster:

789 posts

285 months

Saturday 19th January 2008
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I live near the A5004, Long Hill, between Whaley Bridge and Buxton in the Peak District which is one of the nicest stretch of driving roads in the area. I've just passed the council van changing the speed limit signs from National limit to 50 mph !

This has happened on just about every decent road in Derbyshire - who authorises this ? how can they arbitarily decide that a well surfaced open raod with very few houses on it and no junctions is now not safe at 60mph ?? Especially as there are several small single track roads coming off it which are NSL. I know it doesn't really matter because I rarely paid much attention to the NSL signs, however now if I do get done for speeding my punishment will be worse.

This really annoys me !!!!

S..

mackdaddy

4 posts

205 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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Just found your posting.
I can't believe its been changed.
After 3 years daily commute.
What was the point?
I've seen the aftermath of 2 accidents where cars have gone off on bends in poor weather.
What's that got to do with the speed limit.
It's fkn annoying as I agree its a great road with no new developments in 50 years.
I'm so angry its unbelievable.
I'll try the council I think....

mackdaddy

4 posts

205 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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Found it:
https://www.derbyshire.gov.uk/Images/content/Democ...
£40000 to put up loads of ugly signs which will do nothing.
I can do the whole length without braking, with only one bend <40mph.
Still angry.

mackdaddy

4 posts

205 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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sorry to go on but the report is by the Strategic Director of Environmental Services
who I think is David Harvey whose pay grade I think is council Range 1 which is £65k plus.
Don't sue me its internet research.

I think it's his decision to discount police advice and justify this on the government's policy of speed restriction consistency.

His email is david.harvey@derbyshire.gov.uk or environmental.services@derbyshire.gov.uk

Is this enough consultation?

"A Public Notice was consequently placed in the Derbyshire Times and on site for a three week period ending 6 July 2007."

mackdaddy

4 posts

205 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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Here's the deal - the future of our roads:

60mph limit: should be applied to high quality trunk roads with few bends, junctions or accesses. The incident rate should be below a threshold of 35 injury incidents per 100 million vehicle kilometres.

50mph limit: should be applied to lower quality strategic roads which have a relatively high number of bends, junctions or accesses. The incident rate should be above a threshold of 35 injury incidents per 100 million vehicle kilometres and/or the mean speed already below 50mph.

The A5004 has a high injury rate >35


alphadog

2,049 posts

234 months

Thursday 24th January 2008
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Derbyshire are rabid about introducing 50 limits on quite decent roads. Thing is they don't actually know the causes of the accidents - these stats are hard to come by - I got this from the report on the A515 limit reduction.

I now drive on more B and C roads with NSL as there is nothing worse than being forced to drive at an unpleasantly slow speed on a decent road or risk prosecution!

Utter incompetants!