Huge Hole opens in Road

Huge Hole opens in Road

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eddie1980

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419 posts

189 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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I don't think this is a repost, I did check and search...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8025935.stm

They think that's huge, they need to check some of the ones out round me. Never mind I am sure 10 people in yellow will be over shortly to watch an 11th drop a bag of low grade black stuff in it.

Edited by eddie1980 on Thursday 30th April 10:00

Chris71

21,536 posts

243 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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That's about the size of the potholes in Southgate. smile

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213 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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eddie1980 said:
I don't think this is a repost, I did check and search...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/8025935.stm

They think that's huge, they need to check some of the ones out round me. Never mind I am sure 10 people in yellow will be over shortly to watch an 11th drop a bag of low grade black stuff in it.

Edited by eddie1980 on Thursday 30th April 10:00
Nah won't need 10. It'll need 6 max. 2 for the Traffic Management. 1 to write the permit. 2 more to do the work. And maybe an overseeing Engineer ("competent person") to sign it off on behalf of the council. (I haven't included any Utility company employees). And a hole that size doesn't use Insta-mac (or whatever brand of instant repair you desire), it would need proper hot materials being laid and compacted, under a lane, or road closure. And being a main road, will probably be closed straight away.

I think it's a bit off to have a pop at the roads authority. Holes like that are usually caused by flowing water underground washing away the fines and the aggregate. If anyone is to blame, I would say it's more likely to be a water utility.

(I know you weren't apportioning blame, but it's ever so easy to have a pop at roads workers, innit? If you worked in a highly public place where everyone could see you work, then I'm sure you would be criticised too).

eddie1980

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419 posts

189 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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Opulent said:
(I know you weren't apportioning blame, but it's ever so easy to have a pop at roads workers, innit? If you worked in a highly public place where everyone could see you work, then I'm sure you would be criticised too).
I work in IT, I am criticised and blamed for anything wrong with anything that has a plug on it...Joking? No I once had a hand drier in the gents reported to me.

sider

2,059 posts

222 months

Thursday 30th April 2009
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eddie1980 said:
Opulent said:
(I know you weren't apportioning blame, but it's ever so easy to have a pop at roads workers, innit? If you worked in a highly public place where everyone could see you work, then I'm sure you would be criticised too).
I work in IT, I am criticised and blamed for anything wrong with anything that has a plug on it...Joking? No I once had a hand drier in the gents reported to me.
Our IT bod once went mad at a guy for asking him to see if he could fix the coffee machine!

anonymous-user

55 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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eddie1980 said:
Joking? No I once had a hand drier in the gents reported to me.
I'm sorry, I couldn't help but chuckle at that - It makes you wonder whether someone who can ask a question THAT stupid should even be out crossing roads alone, let alone coming to work! Hope you told him that you needed your accounts doing, he can do them because he sits behind a desk!

Back on topic, I was thinking about this last night. I'm surprised there isn't a more routine application of some form of reinforcement grid/geotextile wrap in the foundation to the road. The benefit of concrete slabs, is that they effectively bridge any localised soft spots. As long as there is a good proportion of the slab on firm ground, then a wet spot isn't loaded. Reinforcing the base of the road would act in a similar way, keeping the aggregate locked together to stop it washing away. (For a while - would never last as long as concrete but would be a far nicer driving surface)

Saying that, reinforcement is a fairly recent application, and potholed roads are GENERALLY old, patched, many times resurfaced, etc.

I guess it's how far does the budget stretch when it's time for renewal. Not that far, I'll bet.

(Dull boring work mode off)