LOH's mini (2013 JCW-GP) adventure

LOH's mini (2013 JCW-GP) adventure

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LaurasOtherHalf

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21,429 posts

196 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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I need to update this thread! I've got someone coming to view the car in the next couple of days with an agreed purchase price. As always with these things there's a chance they could cock on the deal but we'll wait and see-I'll update the thread with all the details if that goes ahead.....

If not, well the little MINI's replacement has been ordered and a part exchange price agreed so one way or another it'll be gone next week frown

Stay tuned for the final instalment and the final write up.....

LaurasOtherHalf

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21,429 posts

196 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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Oh, and to answer your question Irish Boy, very few genuine callers and plenty of time wasters!

irish boy

3,535 posts

236 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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Interesting one re the x factor competition winning one. It came to Northern Ireland near me, he put it up for 23k on pistonheads…...


http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...


Then had a massive interest with the ebay bidding over £25k now…….


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/X-Factor-MINI-Dec-2013-1...


and is now asking £26k for it!! Hopefully it doesn't backfire on him.

Schmeeky

4,191 posts

217 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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Am only halfway through reading this great thread, but had to go out and have a drive about, as it's a cracking day here.

I know LOH's local to me, as he's commented before on parking next to my Eunos in the car park at my work.

So I'm coming back home past my workplace I see a dark mini waiting to pull out of the car park, and think wouldn't it be funny if that was LOH?

..and it bloody was!!! wobble It's like the internets have suddenly become interactive! biggrin

Good to see you today LOH, your car looks great, and sounds rather fruity! thumbup


LaurasOtherHalf

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21,429 posts

196 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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Cheers Schmeeky, I was actually at your place buying some bits for work-a couple of my girls study up the road from there so I was on my way to pop in and see their tutors. Car sounds good doesn't it?!

Anyway, if I get the chance tomorrow I might do the same & take the car for a run-updates to follow soon thumbup

eddiefara

52 posts

119 months

Tuesday 17th March 2015
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OP an amazing thread just found and read through all of it. One of my favourite threads ever.
My dad an I did all the swiss alps in a rented cooper s, was great fun as you say some of the roads are just incredible.
We also stayed in the same hotel in Gstadd, when collecting the car we decided to go down in the car park to see the cars. A Porsche 918 sypder passed on the road just as we walked out, in the garage there were multiple bentley and aston martins but most impressive the 1 of 1 Betone jet 2+2. The best hotel i've ever stayed in.
Good luck on the new car if you do get one. My dad has a 911 4s 1st gen and its by far the best car he's ever had according to him.

All the best.

LaurasOtherHalf

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21,429 posts

196 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
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Take it for one last blast they said, it'll be fun they said.........



I'd love to explain that the above image is completely all of my own making but I just don't think it was. Not for the first time the mini had failed, but this was the first time it had ever left me stranded-in fact, I think this is the only time I've ever been left stranded in any car-be had issues and brake downs but have always managed to get the car moving or limp the thing home.

Tell a lie actually, I've had one cam belt and one cam chain go in over 20 years of motoring. They were in old spotters though....

So as I've explained over PH I've been preparing to sell the car. There have been many test drives, journeys to different garages and even an early hand in the GT4 debacle, but forget about all that and just be aware I had the adverts up for the car.

After the usual time wasters (I tend to string them along just for the craic) I had a couple of interested parties but a few weeks ago a buyer for the sytner group rang up. To cut a long story short they offered a very (very!) good price at not much below what I was asking for he car (there's a reason they were so keen on it but I'll leave that for now).

In fact, it was all very civil smile they agreed in principle to buy the car pending inspection and a date was set for the next week to go I've the car. The car did have a few marks on it, but seeing as a mate does bodywork I always say I'll get the car mint rather than let them chip me down so the car was booked in on a Tuesday night for the wing mirror and rear bumper to be touched up (wing mirror my fault, rear bumper scraped in a car park presumably). The day before the tyre warning sensor went off but I reset it and it didn't go off again.

The next morning (the day after the post I did above) dawned bright and just begged for a last run out in the car driving I walked the dog to the paint shop, picked it up and on the way to drop the dog off the tyre sensor went off again. Typical!

So straight to my local tyre place to whip the wheel off to find a nice fat screw through it grumpy Still, it's in the centre and should be able to be fixed and indeed was for a tenner.

Was this a sign? The buyer from sytner was arriving first thing the next morning and I could quite easily just wash it, stick it in the garage and wait for the sale. Still, it was a lovely day and I hadn't had breakfast yet...

hadenough!

3,785 posts

260 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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So...

irish boy

3,535 posts

236 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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Sorry read that twice......was the issue that caused the mini to have to be recovered the tyre?

ScoJak

37 posts

130 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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hadenough! said:
So...
He's holding out on us!

LaurasOtherHalf

Original Poster:

21,429 posts

196 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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ScoJak said:
hadenough! said:
So...
He's holding out on us!
Apologies, will be updating this in a few different posts, I'm currently on a sunbed in lanzarote for Easter and the wifi can be temperamental at best wink

So, I picked a favourite loop from the abundance of great local driving roads-a loop that takes me north into Scotland via a friends house, through the forestry commission roads west and north of kielder forrest and back home again. There's a nice little town in the middle of it called langholme with a great local cafe serves up an all day breakfast as a nice little stop off point;


The car was going extremely well as usual and after filling up both myself and the car I headed north west out of town on my favourite stretch. The road from langholme to eskdalemuir follows a river up one valley and into the next, the type of road where there's a couple of farmhouses and a wether station for company. The forestry commission lorries use it so you can a expect a few pot holes but the road is well sighted with fast open sweeping bends and regardless of wether it's midweek or weekend there never seems to be much traffic-bikes included. Follow it through the village of eskdalemuir where some hippies and Buddhist Monks live and you eventually reach st. Mary's loch, a picturesque little stop before you can head back into the small town of Moffat on yet more great roads and stop off for a drink or a nice cream. Well, that was the plan anyway.....

About a third of the way between villages I came across a mondeo and the corner before I overtook (a left hander) I heard a sound not unlike a wheel catching an arch. A bit puzzled as this had never happened before (I've never adjusted the suspension on the car) I overtook the car making a mental note to listen and feel for anything that didn't seem right.

No sooner had I thought this there was the unmistakeable sound of something catastrophically failing on the car! When I say catastrophic, I mean LOUD NOISES and black acrid smoke filling the cabin through the air vents and poring out of the left hand front of the car.

st.

Moving at what we'll call "quite a pace" I immediately thought of the rear tyre that had been repaired, especially as amongst the smoke that was poring out behind me there were black chunks of something bouncing down the road plainly on fire :gulp: but all the noise, smoke and tearing at the wheel plainly made clear this was something to do with the front end. Hazards on, slow down to the side of the road and stop then although I let the car drive on a bit further than necessary as I didn't want the car I'd just overtaken to fly round the corner and rear end me.

Speaking of which she was white as a sheet when she stopped! She explained she'd seen the huge cloud of smoke around the bend and fully expected to see my car down the bank in the river thinking I'd lost it. We both looked over the car and her professional opinion was that I'd "blown it to fk" hehe still fair play to her for stopping, we're a friendly bunch up here smile

Now, I was totally perplexed. The engine was still running when I stopped although I'd immediately switched it off fearing the worst, the rear tyre was fully inflated but even more strangely so was the front left where the cloud of thick black smoke was still posting out of confused not really thinking straight I wondered if a cv boot or something rubber had come adrift and got caught in the brake as surely if it was a tyre failure the tyre would have deflated.

Anyway, my new found companion laid a bet I'd blown up the engine so against her wishes I opened the bonnet, she fully expected the car to go up in flames if I did (to be honest, I thought it might do the same but hey, that's what insurance is for). Bonnet opened and the engine bay looked surprisingly pristine. Now the smoke was beginning to die down I figured I'd start the engine and see what happened-it started and idled fine. With the car sitting so low we just couldn't see any problems and as whatever was burning had seemed to burn itself out I had a couple of choices...

Although these roads are great, there's absolutely no mobile signal out here in the wilds so I thanked the lady for stopping and asked (she was taking her mother for a picnic) if on her way back the car was still there to stop and look for me. I'd try and limp the car back the 8-9 miles to langholme to get to a garage as without a jack I couldn't realistically find out any more than something had gone tits. About 18 hours before someone was coming to buy the car.

As they say, I made my excuses and left (albeit at a very slow and noisy pace)

LaurasOtherHalf

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21,429 posts

196 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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Bad luck huh?

I was kind of cursing the bloody thing. Anyway, a mile or so down the road something finally gave at the front end and it was pretty obvious I was doing more harm than good carrying on. By chance this happened next to where some blokes were carrying out some repairs to overhead pylons so I stopped to ask to borrow a jack. The vans only had a huge bottle jack that I couldn't get under the car (even with parking the offending side up on the verge) so I had to admit defeat. I was stuck.

With no mobile signal I looked for the nearest farmhouse and as luck would have ain't a farmer was just heading out of it "to look after some beast", having explained my predicament he left me his cordless house phone to ring mini assist.

After getting through they were adamant as I couldn't confirm the car needed recovery they had to send a mechanic to see if he could get it going before ordering a recovery truck, even after I explained the copious amounts of smoke and burning. They also needed to call me back with updates, not ideal as I had no signal and the farmers phone didn't reach to the car that I needed to wait with. I resounded to sit on a dry stone wall for the afternoon and contemplate life.

Contemplating life is pretty boring so I started contemplating the stupidity of not fitting modern cars with tool kits. It was around this point I started contemplating what was under the rear boot floor that I had just been in that morning to get the locking wheel nut to remove the tyre when getting it repaired. It didn't take much contemplation upon looking to notice the unused scissor jack next to the other bits and bobs under there. ste.

I had the wheel off in a couple of minutes and was met with the following;






Yes that is the ARB drop link and yes it did shear off and jam itself between the rim and the tyre. Amazingly the tyre doesn't even look that bad but the amount of smoke and burning rubber that came off it was astounding and it didn't take a fully trained mechanic to realise it was unsafe to drive on with it I that star so another phone call to mini to explain a recovery was definitely needed meant another couple of hours wait by the side of the road. Happy days.




Craikeybaby

10,414 posts

225 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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That must be the car protesting about its imminent sale! I love the road past St Mary's Loch.

ScoJak

37 posts

130 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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LaurasOtherHalf said:
I'm currently on a sunbed in lanzarote for Easter
Could be worse eh? silly

Shame about the car though, can't believe it just sheared off like that though, could have been worse if it had caused more serious damage to the tyre.
Clearly it doesn't want to be sold!

LaurasOtherHalf

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21,429 posts

196 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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ScoJak said:
LaurasOtherHalf said:
I'm currently on a sunbed in lanzarote for Easter
Could be worse eh? silly

Shame about the car though, can't believe it just sheared off like that though, could have been worse if it had caused more serious damage to the tyre.
Clearly it doesn't want to be sold!
Rather strangely, or ominously depending on your viewpoint the mechanic at mini had seen one fail in exactly the same way only the week before but with much worse results. The drop link had taken out the complete inner sidewall and caused the tyre to leave the rim and significantly more damage.

If I'm honest, I was feeling pretty pissed off about the whole thing until the mechanic pointed out just what a massive accident it could have caused had things have happened differently.

LaurasOtherHalf

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21,429 posts

196 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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So that, PH'rs, is just about all that.

The guy from sytners did arrive the next day and did view the car and indeed buy it on condition of course of it being fixed. Which obviously we all knew it would be, I'm not sure he gets to view and purchase many cars whilst they're on a four post lift but fair play to the guy he really checked it over and left me with a cheque.

The reason for them being very keen on buying it was obviously a plain and simple business decision. The new john cooper works is almost ready to come out and deliveries will be limited for the first six months until initial orders are completed. That, along with all the press about the new cars will mean that mini dealerships are buying up all older models for the healthy second hand market they will predict will ride the wave of the new car. Joe Bloggs will read about the new JCW, go to the dealers to order a car and discover that even after a 6 month waiting list they'll be paying £25k+ for the car they want. Having been put off by that the sales team will then show them the pampered low mileage one careful owner GP on the lot and explain it can be had for a healthy amount less smile

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...

Personally I'd want the inside of the rim repaired but that's just me. Speaking of which, MINI did try to cock on the warranty repair work only wanting to replace the failed drop link. With a tyre that had done less than a thousand miles that pissed me off and not for the first time.

I've got to hand it to the dealership however, they were and always have been fantastic throughout the whole process and pushed for MINI to cover it via goodwill which they eventually did. Their indecision however meant I lost my courtesy car (not a problem as I already had the minis replacement) and left a sour final experience about the car.

MINI get a great rep around these parts for their customer service but I'm not sure it's well deserved. As I said, the dealership were exemplary and always have been but their have been a coupe of issues along the way.

First major point, and personally one I won't forget them for was their increasing the UK allocation of GPs from 200 to 300. First world problems and all that but it really fked me off that one. I sign up to buy their best car on a limited edition basis and they then decide to move the goalposts. I'm not just wining on the internet about it either, I did get in touch to let them know my thoughts and they basically couldn't have given a toss.

Nice touch.

The other thing has been the build quality. Perceived quality on MINIs is by far and away head and shoulders above most other brands, but this car certainly wasn't without its faults. Two oil leaks picked up at service time, the drop link failing and a complete replacement gearbox in just over two years, the replacement gearbox still didn't completely solve the intermittent crunching into second gear so I guess it's just a "live with it" thing.

Fundamentally the car was good at what I'd did however and it's probably prudent to focus on that. On track it was incredible fun and had astounding performance for what it was-keeping up with and eventually passing a gingerly driven GT3rs at the nürburgring was a memory I'll cherish! Not as much as some others detailed on this thread however wink

Will I miss the car? Sadly not. I've enjoyed every car I've owned but some more than others I guess. Yes the car was faster in our hands than the R26.R but I won't miss this one like I did my old one of those.

As good as it was, it just missed that "something special", a charge you could simply never level at the Megane.

It was also, without sounding like a wimp plainly too fast! Of course I've had much faster cars but they have also been more exotic cars and I'm not sure if this is going to sound like a great explanation- it's speed to tastiness ratio was all wrong! It was a humdrum car that went like a scalded cat. I know some people love that but after two years I found it a bit unnecessary, if I'm going to be doing license losing speeds on the road why would I want it to be in a MINI? And it very easily could lose you your license!

The car came alive when being driven like a hooligan but to put it bluntly 10 seconds of that and you doing 120mph+. Don't get me wrong, that was great fun but it all just felt a little bit unnecessary on the road when you weren't on track. Doing those speeds in an Aston, Porsche or Ferrari has all the other benefits that come with them, the exotic engine and noise, the low slung driving position and if I'm completely honest the feeling of driving something truly special and not a 3 door hatch with an overblown 1.6 PSA engine and some stickers. Quite how Renault can accomplish this and MINI not, I've no idea but it's just the way I feel.

All of that said, this is obviously a very personal thing and just my own opinion on the car-I just don't think it's what I want at this particular time in life. The MINIs replacement is in the garage at home and waiting to be played with but there will definitely be something else more exotic joining it in the future, what I haven't really figured out just yet but then I've always enjoyed the hunt smile

For what it's worth, I'm glad I started this thread, really glad.

For me personally it's been about way more than the car for obvious reasons and I've lost count of the times I've re-read it and enjoyed the memories of everything Laura and I have enjoyed with it. Being the type of car it is as well, I hope that at some point it will be bought by a true MINI enthusiast and they'll enjoy being able to read all the car's first couple of years of history. I get updates if anyone posts on the thread so hopefully if they ever do stumble across this thread I'll find out about it. Hopefully PH doesn't go bust and I'll lose all the great memories!


melvster

6,841 posts

185 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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Enjoyed your updates on the car; interesting to hear about the gearbox woes,bit of a shame the car hasn't always been as plain sailing as you expected. Great looking though i am surprised it doesn't feel special to you.

You need another R26.R by the sounds of it winkwink solid investment.

Easternlight

3,432 posts

144 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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Thanks for this thread have followed from the start.
Hope your going to do one for the Mazda?

LaurasOtherHalf

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21,429 posts

196 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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I can't explain te lack or "specialness" melv, I've tried to put it into words but I can't if you know what I mean?

I'll be bluntly honest about it, the increase in supply of cars after I bought it started it and it royally pissed me off. In fact Laura was all set to buy a Countryman but this point alone made me refuse to give them any more business (much to the joy of our friends!) and bought an X1 instead. Yes I am aware of the irony in that!

But perhaps another part of it might be just the MINI brand to me-there just isn't any love there. Our mate who came to spa wih us asked me along to loads of mini shows but I never bothered-they just don't mean anything to me, minis when I were a lad were just little st boxes even though I knew my old man owned a cooper back in the day. A bit like the Astons I nearly bought-don't get me wrong, I really like them, they drive well, sound amazing and look stunning. But they just don't pull on my heart strings for whatever reason.

I may be strange!

The MINI GP is an amazing little car in many different respects and I'll certainly miss some parts of it a lot (bizarrely the 2 things that spring to mind are the exhaust note and the DAB radio), it just doesn't, or didn't as is now the case worm it's way into my heart like some of my others.....

Megane R26.R
993 rs-a-like Porsche
Toyota MR2 roadster

Each if the above I knew when selling of regret it. Each of the above I'd buy back in a heartbeat if I could. The MINI just doesn't make the list unfortunately.

melvster

6,841 posts

185 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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Fair enough; if you don't love it then you can't convince yourself that you will ever like it. Enjoying the MX5 ?