My Porsche 996 911 Carrera

My Porsche 996 911 Carrera

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p4cks

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6,917 posts

200 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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Magic919 said:
One or two? The parts are only cheap, but I guess you are paying more labour.
Got it in one. It's an engine rebuild job.

Magic919

14,126 posts

202 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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Has nobody made chains with a master link yet?

FELIX_5

952 posts

198 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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p4cks said:
Got it in one. It's an engine rebuild job.
Is this why it was 'cheap' or is it just bad luck? Not trying to be funny, just wonder if the previous owner suspected an iminent large bill?

Slobberchops

3,619 posts

202 months

Tuesday 22nd January 2013
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Just wondered the same and if there were any symptoms to look out for?

lordlee

3,137 posts

246 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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I do love my pork but reading threads like this doesn't help my ownership experience! I really feel for you buddy, there's nothing more gut wrenching than buying a car you've wanted all your life and finding a problem like that out. Might be worth investigating some sensible engine mods so it at least feels as if you get something better back.



Edited by lordlee on Wednesday 23 January 20:02

jaybarts

316 posts

159 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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p4cks said:
The IMS mod is £140 (delivered!) from Pelican Parts in the USA and there's a local indy that can fit it for about £400.
smile

Sorry to hear about the car, hopefully it won't hurt your wallet too much!

BenM77

2,835 posts

165 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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p4cks said:
Magic919 said:
One or two? The parts are only cheap, but I guess you are paying more labour.
Got it in one. It's an engine rebuild job.
Lovely Porsche OP, sorry to hear it needs engine work frown

If it is an engine rebuild then have you considered the Autofarm or Hartech engine sleeving ?


Paracetamol

4,226 posts

245 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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Does this mean that the Clio is back up for sale frown

Would be worth spending the cash on a proper rebuild if you intend to keep it for 2-3 years.

C7 JFW

1,205 posts

220 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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Lovely car, I share a similar dream, only problem is I just can't part with my cars.

p4cks

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6,917 posts

200 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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Thanks for the support guys. I'm not convinced that the previous owner would have known about the chain, as it was only diagnosed once the engine and gearbox were out so that he could replace the IMS bearing. I'm not one to 'bodge' as I always prefer doing a job properly and I'm a firm believer in prevention being better than cure.

All in, I'm looking at about £4k but that does include the service, IMS change and brake fluid/pipe change and the engine rebuild which will include an upgrade of some standard parts which could do with being replaced whilst the engine it in bits. A bit like what I have recently done with my Clio Williams but on a much more expensive scale frown

rumple

11,671 posts

152 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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Absolutely gutted for you, I bet going home and telling the missus that one was great, hope you sort something out.

p4cks

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6,917 posts

200 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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rumple said:
Absolutely gutted for you, I bet going home and telling the missus that one was great, hope you sort something out.
I'm single, hence why I can (just about!) afford a Porsche wink

fridaypassion

8,580 posts

229 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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And my desire for a 911 is now quashed without having to spend any money thanks!


MrC986

3,496 posts

192 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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^ l think the OP is unlucky in this instance though it does prove that cars with Hartech/Autofarm uprated engines should command a premium if they have had a full rebuild. lf the OP is spending that sort of money it should hopefully deal with the big issues & l don't see how service specialist couldn't help but service it given what they are doing workwise! The car should serve you well once you have bedded the engine in & should prove easier to sell in the future.

FELIX_5

952 posts

198 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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On the bright side, you'll probably be one of the most confident 911 owners, as in, confident that you shouldn't have any problems after the rebuild.

You'll be able to just enjoy the car without being nervous. Ironically, in the long run could be money well spent, but appreciate it doesn't probably feel like that at the minute.

You've earnt plenty of PH points IMO.

p4cks

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6,917 posts

200 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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FELIX_5 said:
On the bright side, you'll probably be one of the most confident 911 owners, as in, confident that you shouldn't have any problems after the rebuild.

You'll be able to just enjoy the car without being nervous. Ironically, in the long run could be money well spent, but appreciate it doesn't probably feel like that at the minute.
My thoughts *exactly*.

lordlee

3,137 posts

246 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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p4cks said:
My thoughts *exactly*.
I often wonder what the feeling of 'there cant be any impending doom' feels like. What mods are you looking at doing to the engine?

GreaseNipple

391 posts

242 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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Excuse my ignorance but why does it need an engine rebuild of the chain hadn't broken and it was only spotted on inspection? Are they meant to be lifetime parts so changing them isn't easy?

p4cks

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6,917 posts

200 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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GreaseNipple said:
Are they meant to be lifetime parts so changing them isn't easy?
This. You can see part of the chain when you open the engine casing, but it's the bits you can't see which causes the problems as it's right inside the engine and the internals need to be removed. Once the internals are removed it's good practice to replenish/replace/upgrade some of the other parts whilst you're there (a bit like what I did on my Clio) so some of the £4k isn't actually just for the timing chain to be replaced. Ironically the chain is about £30 to buy.

The result should be a fully functional 911 with the added confidence that it will not be imploding on itself for at least another 150k miles.

fridaypassion

8,580 posts

229 months

Thursday 24th January 2013
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Why dont Porsche just make them like that?