Ferrari F430 Spider

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jeremyc

23,543 posts

285 months

Wednesday 6th June 2018
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mwstewart said:
Tony just emailed the GIF images straight from the dyno. These are easier to read:

I hope their remapping skills are significantly better than their ability to set the date on their PC. wink

mwstewart

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7,628 posts

189 months

Wednesday 6th June 2018
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Undoubtedly smile

trails

3,755 posts

150 months

Wednesday 6th June 2018
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You must be pretty pleased with the results, particularly in the context of the others models you have quoted above. Congrats, glad you got a good result...any plans to try and eek any more power from it?

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 6th June 2018
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hmm, looks like it needs a higher rev limit! Power still climbing ;-)

Vitorio

4,296 posts

144 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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better power/weight then any 430 and the standard 458, proper job!

gcpeters

962 posts

233 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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jeremyc said:
hope their remapping skills are significantly better than their ability to set the date on their PC. wink
did they do a run before? would be good to see a before and after. Even more interesting did you do a power run before any of the mods? The power output does seem a little erm "high" considering the modifications? If they can get this out of your engine then in theory they could get ~600 out of a scud?

GP

Edited by gcpeters on Thursday 7th June 09:53

mwstewart

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189 months

Thursday 7th June 2018
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gcpeters said:
did they do a run before? would be good to see a before and after. Even more interesting did you do a power run before any of the mods? The power output does seem a little erm "high" considering the modifications? If they can get this out of your engine then in theory they could get ~600 out of a scud?

GP

Edited by gcpeters on Thursday 7th June 09:53
It wasn't possible to get a baseline with my car because the starting ignition settings were not suitable for a power run. A Scuderia modified to identical spec as my car but with the 11.9:1 compression ratio would be within 5-8hp with some more torque in the mid range; a 0.6:1 increase in CR would not make a significant difference.

For reference a fellow CS member took his F430 to DMS in Jan, and here is his baseline:


That's in the reigon I'd expect for a standard F430. I spoke to DMS about the factory tune and it isn't without issue: the AFR on a 16M they had in a couple of weeks ago hit 17:1 in places above 4krpm.

I've said a few times above: dyno figures aren't worth getting hung up on - the only dyno I really trust is an engine dyno - but for the purposes of comparison in my power to weight calcs above it is OK, because Ferrari's rarely make the factory claimed figures (nor weights).

Edited by mwstewart on Wednesday 13th February 16:04

Too Late

5,094 posts

236 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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Super updates as always !!!

PhillipM

6,524 posts

190 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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As Max said, that really looks like it's crying out for a higher rev limit - is there any more to go or you at the max of what it'll take to maintain day-to-day reliability?

mwstewart

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189 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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Too Late said:
Super updates as always !!!
Thanks Nick.

PhillipM said:
As Max said, that really looks like it's crying out for a higher rev limit - is there any more to go or you at the max of what it'll take to maintain day-to-day reliability?
I wouldn't want to go past the standard rev limit with standard rods; the big end becomes oval and the result is a rod through the block. If I'm opening the engine to fit stronger rods I wouldn't keep the F430 crank nor many other things, so I'd rather wait to finish a complete engine build in one go.

PhillipM

6,524 posts

190 months

Tuesday 12th June 2018
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Damn laws of physics, getting in the way of more fun.

AdamR83

22 posts

70 months

Sunday 1st July 2018
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Well, this is quite a thread! biggrin Thank you for sharing all of your experiences in such detail, and of course as others have said, hats off for treating it like the lump of metal and plastic it is ;-) I'm also a huge advocate of the fact that an enthusiastic amateur will often do a better job than a professional.

I'm collecting one of these next week (well, a standard one!) and while I haven't got the inclination to rip it apart as much as you have, it's been absolutely brilliant to see under the skin of the car and just how easy they are to work on. I'll chuck it on my scales whinnies get chance, to give you some extra data for your bhp/ton calculations.

Thanks again - owe you a beer or two if we ever meet wink

Adam

Edited by AdamR83 on Sunday 1st July 13:50

AmosMoses

4,042 posts

166 months

Sunday 22nd July 2018
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20180721-9I3Y5195 by Alexander Dunlop, on Flickr

Spotted you at SS Classic, car was looking awesome!

Edited by AmosMoses on Monday 23 July 15:55

Too Late

5,094 posts

236 months

Sunday 22nd July 2018
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That looks amazing mark... Great work

mwstewart

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189 months

Wednesday 25th July 2018
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AmosMoses said:
...Flickr...

Spotted you at SS Classic, car was looking awesome!
Thanks Alex - cracking photos! You caught mine before the valets visited; there's a couple of months worth of dust and summer road grime there redface

Too Late said:
That looks amazing mark... Great work
Cheers!

Edited by mwstewart on Thursday 26th July 08:07

mwstewart

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Wednesday 25th July 2018
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Some recent phone snaps - very much enjoying the weather!:








Edited by mwstewart on Wednesday 13th February 16:05

outnumbered

4,094 posts

235 months

Thursday 26th July 2018
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eek you let someone else clean it ??

Andy_5

93 posts

99 months

Thursday 26th July 2018
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outnumbered said:
eek you let someone else clean it ??
It's fine, they wiped all the dust off, with that white towel on the floor and those Autosmart cans..... hehe

MDL111

6,981 posts

178 months

Thursday 26th July 2018
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Max_Torque said:
hmm, looks like it needs a higher rev limit! Power still climbing ;-)
am I reading the graph wrong - it ends below the 430 rev limited, doesn't it? I thought the the rev limit is at c. 8.5k rpm

leglessAlex

5,476 posts

142 months

Thursday 26th July 2018
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mwstewart said:
Some recent phone snaps - very much enjoying the weather!:
I always forget how good looking these cars are until I see one again. What a superb machine.

Have you any long trips planned this summer/autumn?