2006 Porsche 987 Cayman 3.4 S Bore Score Edition
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I've just read this thread from start to finish. It certainly sounds like an interesting journey and it reminds us of why threads like these can be invaluable.
Fair play for sticking with the car and taking the route you have.
Like yourself I've had renowned suspension brands and setups play havoc and it has once been Bilstein as well, albeit in the B4 format. When some research was done off my back it's changed my opinion alot!
As always keep the thread up! What tyres are you using now on your 17s?
Fair play for sticking with the car and taking the route you have.
Like yourself I've had renowned suspension brands and setups play havoc and it has once been Bilstein as well, albeit in the B4 format. When some research was done off my back it's changed my opinion alot!
As always keep the thread up! What tyres are you using now on your 17s?
Well, life is for living! You will be richer for the memories. I was once 25k a year man, as little motorway as possible aside from commute, but now a car is more of a luxury I’m hoping to capitalise a little. Still fancy a cayman but back seats mandated by GF (working on her). Man maths says M3 or 996; bank manager laughs ominously in response 986 is for sale with my local - hope to get an update soon. Vaguely tempted to keep it...
Will let you know when next out your way for a beverage
Will let you know when next out your way for a beverage
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This is the problem when you start thinking about what it all costs. I'm doing an extra 250 miles per week now compared to last year. It soon mounts up when my cars are in the 20mpg range. I just can't wrap my head around driving something dull to save money. Been there done that. I am averaging about 23mpg in my 986.2 3.2s Boxster, but can get to 28-33 on a run. now I am 1,000 miles in and starting to calm a little, I will probably revert to my 944T tactic of driving carefully for each quarter tank to 'purchase' some hooning time.
eg my 944 would do a germanic 100 miles per quarter tank if driven OK, if i drove carefully I could get 120 miles, which gives me almost a gallon of fun times, before settling down to careful driving again....
eg my 944 would do a germanic 100 miles per quarter tank if driven OK, if i drove carefully I could get 120 miles, which gives me almost a gallon of fun times, before settling down to careful driving again....
I've been following this thread with interest, since I just picked up a 987.2 base Cayman here in the US. It came with the 17" stockers and I'm at a crossroads because the tires are pretty much dead and I'm trying to decide if it's time to jump to 18s for better tire selection. I'm not bothered about the extra comfort of 17s (it's for weekend blats), but what appeals to me about the 17s in OEM sizes for street use is the narrower tread width. Over-tired cars (on the street) are a pet-peeve of mine: the best example of this is seen in widebodied 911s, where relatively impotent motors are married to steam-roller tires.
Cmoose, I wasn't sold on the 17s look until you lowered your car - they actually look great. I've just picked up a used set of Cayman R shocks/springs, so I'll hopefully get a similar look (R is supposedly -20mm from non-PASM height). Pic is with stock shocks/springs.
The issue is tire choice in 17s. Here in the US, I'm only seeing 2 tire options in the exact OEM fitment of 205/55/17 + 235/50/17:
GOODYEAR EAGLE F1 ASYMMETRIC
MICHELIN PILOT SPORT PS2
Neither is a cheap option. Have you considered other staggered sizes that are close in width and do not interfere with ABS operation (speedo I can deal with)?
Cmoose, I wasn't sold on the 17s look until you lowered your car - they actually look great. I've just picked up a used set of Cayman R shocks/springs, so I'll hopefully get a similar look (R is supposedly -20mm from non-PASM height). Pic is with stock shocks/springs.
The issue is tire choice in 17s. Here in the US, I'm only seeing 2 tire options in the exact OEM fitment of 205/55/17 + 235/50/17:
GOODYEAR EAGLE F1 ASYMMETRIC
MICHELIN PILOT SPORT PS2
Neither is a cheap option. Have you considered other staggered sizes that are close in width and do not interfere with ABS operation (speedo I can deal with)?
I've got the Yokohama V105 all round on my 17" wheel Boxster - in the 225 front width as mentioned by Cmoose. Very happy. Going up a size on the front reduced the understeer a bit that I got on track previously (Pilot sport 2) with the huge stagger you get on a Boxster (205f, 255r).
My only comment would be - the larger front tyres have fractionally dulled the steering feel off a bit - I do wonder whether I should have gone narrower on the back, instead of wider on the front!
Annoyingly just after I'd bought them, the Pilot Sport 4 was released in the right sizes - I had been holding out for these initially.
It is curious why the Boxster got such a pronounced stagger, yet the Cayman didn't.
My only comment would be - the larger front tyres have fractionally dulled the steering feel off a bit - I do wonder whether I should have gone narrower on the back, instead of wider on the front!
Annoyingly just after I'd bought them, the Pilot Sport 4 was released in the right sizes - I had been holding out for these initially.
It is curious why the Boxster got such a pronounced stagger, yet the Cayman didn't.
Edited by snotrag on Thursday 22 February 12:58
snotrag said:
My only comment would be - the larger front tyres have fractionally dulled the steering feel off a bit - I do wonder whether I should have gone narrower on the back, over wider on the front!
This The 986 (original Boxster) got the same tyre size as the early 996. In both 17 and 18. When the 987 came along they changed. I'm not sure if this because of the spare wheel but dynamically the 996 and 986 are very different so why the same width tyres?
All 987 Boxster and Cayman had 205 / 235 in 17 and 235 / 265 in 18 and 19.
The 981 has 235 / 265 in 18, 19 and 20.
ATM said:
Does the Cayman run a lot of toe in at the rear - I'm currently toying with the idea of trying to go nearer to 0.
Don't judge what to do with the 911 based on a mid engined car.. Mass distribution makes a MASSIVE difference.As ppbb said a while back, if you want the car to be more 'loose' - I'd change the car. The whole schtick of a 996 onwards 911 is that prodigious grip at the rear, and the need to work the weight transfer to get the front to turn in as hard as you like...
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