'Oddjob' aka 2002 330i Touring
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Ok, no pictures from today, but did manage to get the thottle body off and the idle control valve.
Both had some serious carbon build up so out came the cleaners and a good flush and clean down with blue workshop cloth (Thank you Costco) they were much cleaner.
Initial fire up showed some hesitation initially, but the ECU soon compesated and it's now running smoothly. However given that this throttle body is original to the car, and I've already had the MAF go last year, I've got one ordered in from AutoDoc due to arrive this week, so will be swapping that out next weekend.
Both had some serious carbon build up so out came the cleaners and a good flush and clean down with blue workshop cloth (Thank you Costco) they were much cleaner.
Initial fire up showed some hesitation initially, but the ECU soon compesated and it's now running smoothly. However given that this throttle body is original to the car, and I've already had the MAF go last year, I've got one ordered in from AutoDoc due to arrive this week, so will be swapping that out next weekend.
Just had a read through your progress thread, really good updates and nice changes to the car! Nice and different that it’s an estate too!!
Just a quick one regarding the rear ball joints that you changed way back, did you fit rear ball joints from an e46 M3?
One of mine has play in so I’m going to change the whole lot shortly!!
Just a quick one regarding the rear ball joints that you changed way back, did you fit rear ball joints from an e46 M3?
One of mine has play in so I’m going to change the whole lot shortly!!
Andrew-b90y3 said:
Just had a read through your progress thread, really good updates and nice changes to the car! Nice and different that it’s an estate too!!
Just a quick one regarding the rear ball joints that you changed way back, did you fit rear ball joints from an e46 M3?
One of mine has play in so I’m going to change the whole lot shortly!!
I did the same job on my Z4 and used the M3 ball joints - https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...Just a quick one regarding the rear ball joints that you changed way back, did you fit rear ball joints from an e46 M3?
One of mine has play in so I’m going to change the whole lot shortly!!
Jakg said:
I did the same job on my Z4 and used the M3 ball joints - https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Spot on, cheers Jakg said:
Andrew-b90y3 said:
Just had a read through your progress thread, really good updates and nice changes to the car! Nice and different that it’s an estate too!!
Just a quick one regarding the rear ball joints that you changed way back, did you fit rear ball joints from an e46 M3?
One of mine has play in so I’m going to change the whole lot shortly!!
I did the same job on my Z4 and used the M3 ball joints - https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...Just a quick one regarding the rear ball joints that you changed way back, did you fit rear ball joints from an e46 M3?
One of mine has play in so I’m going to change the whole lot shortly!!
Been quiet over christmas, though not without incident.
Though december i'd been getting the occasional issue with the car starting up but hunting on idle, and the dashboard lighting up like a christmas tree, with the traction light, ABS , EML and engine icon..
Some scanning later using both my hand held scanner and the BM Cable + software showed a throttle body fault.
Twice it meant calling out the AA, and one time it worked long enough to get home, second time it meant a tow.
A new throttle body was fitted later , i thought the issue was resolved, instead it threw up the faults again. Another tow to Marlin Motor engineers and a few hours of diagnostics, plus a trip with me taking the original throttle body back, turned out the calibration needed resetting on the ECU. 2 hours later, the car is back to normal.
Plans for this year is to get the subframe re-enforced and looking at exhaust fabricators to remake the Alpina system in stainless as the current one is getting rather ratty and had to be re-welded for the MOT after a downpipe flange was found to be almost broken off.
Any suggstions in the MK area who could fabricate a like for like replacement, maybe with freeier flowing silencers and high flow cats (Vbanded on for straight pipes if possible!), drop them below please.
Though december i'd been getting the occasional issue with the car starting up but hunting on idle, and the dashboard lighting up like a christmas tree, with the traction light, ABS , EML and engine icon..
Some scanning later using both my hand held scanner and the BM Cable + software showed a throttle body fault.
Twice it meant calling out the AA, and one time it worked long enough to get home, second time it meant a tow.
A new throttle body was fitted later , i thought the issue was resolved, instead it threw up the faults again. Another tow to Marlin Motor engineers and a few hours of diagnostics, plus a trip with me taking the original throttle body back, turned out the calibration needed resetting on the ECU. 2 hours later, the car is back to normal.
Plans for this year is to get the subframe re-enforced and looking at exhaust fabricators to remake the Alpina system in stainless as the current one is getting rather ratty and had to be re-welded for the MOT after a downpipe flange was found to be almost broken off.
Any suggstions in the MK area who could fabricate a like for like replacement, maybe with freeier flowing silencers and high flow cats (Vbanded on for straight pipes if possible!), drop them below please.
Edited by Sf_Manta on Sunday 8th March 09:26
Has been a while, and the throttle body issue has been resolved.
Given this project is getting towards the finished state, some of the final pieces are coming together.
Firstly, given the E46 platform is known for rear subframe floorpan issues, this kit has been purchased ready for the overhaul in April .
Will be enlisting Carpetsoiler for the work as both the cams and the front subframe work has worked out well, though still can't seem to trace a small oil leak despite fresh main rear seal and sump gasket with blue silicon on the joints.
Also sorted out the shifter situation following the Z4 shifter having had to been removed... I plumped for a Turner Motorsports shifter with an upgraded selector rod. Shifting gears now is much more tactile and a satisfying 'clunk' when you get the next gear.
Short video here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDCnHOVHud8 and apolgies for the crappy phone quality.
Will have some more pictures when the car's having the floorpan re-enforced.
Given this project is getting towards the finished state, some of the final pieces are coming together.
Firstly, given the E46 platform is known for rear subframe floorpan issues, this kit has been purchased ready for the overhaul in April .
Will be enlisting Carpetsoiler for the work as both the cams and the front subframe work has worked out well, though still can't seem to trace a small oil leak despite fresh main rear seal and sump gasket with blue silicon on the joints.
Also sorted out the shifter situation following the Z4 shifter having had to been removed... I plumped for a Turner Motorsports shifter with an upgraded selector rod. Shifting gears now is much more tactile and a satisfying 'clunk' when you get the next gear.
Short video here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDCnHOVHud8 and apolgies for the crappy phone quality.
Will have some more pictures when the car's having the floorpan re-enforced.
Max M4X WW said:
What was the issue with the Z4 shifter? New one looks smart!
After having the mounts and bushings replaced following the clutch / flywheel change, the bottom of the Z4 shifter was hard up against the propshaft.. so much so i couldn't get 2nd or 4th so it had to come out.The advantage of this one is it is adjustable so you can dial it in without it dragging on the prop.
Sf_Manta said:
Plans for this year is to get the subframe re-enforced and looking at exhaust fabricators to remake the Alpina system in stainless as the current one is getting rather ratty and had to be re-welded for the MOT after a downpipe flange was found to be almost broken off.
Any suggstions in the MK area who could fabricate a like for like replacement, maybe with freeier flowing silencers and high flow cats (Vbanded on for straight pipes if possible!), drop them below please.
I'd be interested to know how much this would cost - the valve on mine has been needing attention on a progressively more frequent basis and a system replacement could be imminent so starting to think through options.Any suggstions in the MK area who could fabricate a like for like replacement, maybe with freeier flowing silencers and high flow cats (Vbanded on for straight pipes if possible!), drop them below please.
Well given with the current interntional crisis going, I thankfully still have a job and having to work from home, though next week I'm having some much needed time off to get some R&R. I've also been collecting the parts required to do the overhaul. This included a new oil pan gasket , oil, filter and rear main seals as there's an oil leak that's going to be traced and fixed hopefully too.
Also said person contracted to get the work done has managed to get me a replacement subframe , which has been duely grit blasted and freshly powdercoated ready for bushes and parts to be installed. He's also going to clean up the main arms and carriers, give them a lick of paint before installing it all back in.
Given the current issues of dropping the car off to get the floorpan worked on, I've had to do some of the prep work so it can be collected on Monday.
Basically this has involved removing the whole rear interior.
Some of the sound deadening unfortunately had to be pulled out, which fell apart. I'll be replacing with some dynamatt in due course.
Also given it's a sunny day, the leather's all come out and had a good feed, currently drying out in the back garden
Once the car's been collected, I'll be hopefully getting daily picture updates and will be duely updating this over the next week or so.
Also debating the offer of a E36 M3 Evo gearbox as this has the same imput splines as my current 5 speed, meaning no change of flywheel and clutch.. just the propshaft may need some thought to work, though a 330i auto one has been found to be only 1mm difference. Some test fitting and a debate of can i take the addtional financial hit of this box and a replacment DSSR selector rod which i'll have to have shipped in from the USA.
WE ARE definately making sure there's more than the distance between myself and the party working on it, already lost two family members due to this goverment's incompitence.. but that's another story. which i don't want to divulge online
Also said person contracted to get the work done has managed to get me a replacement subframe , which has been duely grit blasted and freshly powdercoated ready for bushes and parts to be installed. He's also going to clean up the main arms and carriers, give them a lick of paint before installing it all back in.
Given the current issues of dropping the car off to get the floorpan worked on, I've had to do some of the prep work so it can be collected on Monday.
Basically this has involved removing the whole rear interior.
Some of the sound deadening unfortunately had to be pulled out, which fell apart. I'll be replacing with some dynamatt in due course.
Also given it's a sunny day, the leather's all come out and had a good feed, currently drying out in the back garden
Once the car's been collected, I'll be hopefully getting daily picture updates and will be duely updating this over the next week or so.
Also debating the offer of a E36 M3 Evo gearbox as this has the same imput splines as my current 5 speed, meaning no change of flywheel and clutch.. just the propshaft may need some thought to work, though a 330i auto one has been found to be only 1mm difference. Some test fitting and a debate of can i take the addtional financial hit of this box and a replacment DSSR selector rod which i'll have to have shipped in from the USA.
WE ARE definately making sure there's more than the distance between myself and the party working on it, already lost two family members due to this goverment's incompitence.. but that's another story. which i don't want to divulge online
Edited by Sf_Manta on Saturday 11th April 16:31
Collection of the car happened and my college didn't waste any time in getting to work. Within an hour or so after arriving, he'd managed to have the exhaust off and the gearbox out
Ironically the spigot bearing did fall out which was a little worrying, though the source of the oil leak was found.
Turns out when i had the flywheel, the previous garage i'd used had not done the job correctly, and rammed the seal in causing it to be folded back on itself. Theres a tool that's supplied with the seal to specifically allow for install. Also found a partially stripped thread in the sump last time, this will be sorted.
The new seal was installed in short order, the sump gasket's getting changed again to ensure its all sealed fully. Also the back of the engine' and plate has had a good clean. Hopefully NO more leaks now on this engine.
While the gearbox was out, my college and myself had been discussing a possible 6 speed swap. However had we gone with the E46 version, this would mean my current clutch and flywheel setup would not work due to the E46 6 speed has a 22 spline drive.. my 5 speed had the other 11? spline version which was common with the E34 M5, hence the Sach's clutch. Turns out the E36 M3 Evo gearbox has this same spline drive. as demonstrated by the picture below. I'm now probably not only getting my subframe re-enforced, the oil leak sorted, but I'm now getting a gearbox upgrade to a 6 speed as well..
not cheap but this will improve motorway mannors as the car will cruise at 70mph.. but holds just over 3000rpm in 5th due to my diff swap. This wil bring it down to 2500rpm at 70 while not loosing the closer ratios.
So the box was offered up, it bolts right up to my engine.. the gearbox support and propshaft do need some thoughts. We're thinking the E46 M3 gearbox carrier and the propshaft from a 330i Automatic should match up as the gearbox is longer on an auto... We'll find out soon enough.
Ironically the spigot bearing did fall out which was a little worrying, though the source of the oil leak was found.
Turns out when i had the flywheel, the previous garage i'd used had not done the job correctly, and rammed the seal in causing it to be folded back on itself. Theres a tool that's supplied with the seal to specifically allow for install. Also found a partially stripped thread in the sump last time, this will be sorted.
The new seal was installed in short order, the sump gasket's getting changed again to ensure its all sealed fully. Also the back of the engine' and plate has had a good clean. Hopefully NO more leaks now on this engine.
While the gearbox was out, my college and myself had been discussing a possible 6 speed swap. However had we gone with the E46 version, this would mean my current clutch and flywheel setup would not work due to the E46 6 speed has a 22 spline drive.. my 5 speed had the other 11? spline version which was common with the E34 M5, hence the Sach's clutch. Turns out the E36 M3 Evo gearbox has this same spline drive. as demonstrated by the picture below. I'm now probably not only getting my subframe re-enforced, the oil leak sorted, but I'm now getting a gearbox upgrade to a 6 speed as well..
not cheap but this will improve motorway mannors as the car will cruise at 70mph.. but holds just over 3000rpm in 5th due to my diff swap. This wil bring it down to 2500rpm at 70 while not loosing the closer ratios.So the box was offered up, it bolts right up to my engine.. the gearbox support and propshaft do need some thoughts. We're thinking the E46 M3 gearbox carrier and the propshaft from a 330i Automatic should match up as the gearbox is longer on an auto... We'll find out soon enough.
Pretty disappointing that RMS issue. There's no way the guy doing that can plead ignorance and there's no way you could fit it like that and think it wouldn't leak. Even if you don't have the tool, you can use the old seal to tap it in if need be. Just plain lack of care. Good to have it fixed though!
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