DS5 DSport

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Chris Stott

13,389 posts

198 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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IIRC, DS5 has torsion beam rear suspension.

I had one of the early ones as a company car, and did nearly 100k in it between 2012-2016. Loved most things about it, but the ride on anything other than super smooth tarmac was appalling. Good to hear there's a fix available.

Muddle238

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3,905 posts

114 months

Tuesday 3rd July 2018
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Mares, it doesn't surprise me to learn that Citroen only now stocks the new parts. The change was made about four years ago to the new shocks, so it's unlikely any of the old stock still exists. The part number you mention is the new part, so you're getting the "upgraded" part, although it's a standard on the newer cars. Citroen probably abandoned old stock anyway as a) they're not as good parts and b) the new shock is a direct replacement, no further changes need to be made to the vehicle to fit them.

Chris, yes you're absolutely right. Torsion beam on all cars except the hybrid models, the "fix" transforms the older cars.

Mares

21 posts

71 months

Thursday 5th July 2018
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Regarding reverse led bulbs, what should I pay attention to? As I can see there are different led bulb with mark P21W. Difference is in wattage, I guess more wattage stronger it lights, right? What wattage you reverse led bulb are if you remember? I found local shop selling Cree led bulbs, and eg. wattage varies from 10,5w, 12w, 30w, 40w, 80w (these are 40Eur pair).

Should they also come with CANBUS or can be without it? CANBUS system is to avoid errors on computer?

Also, for rear signal bulbs, did you put identical leds as for reverse bulbs? If I understood you well, for rear lights (reverse, signal) it is simple plug n play replacement, no wiring required (unlike for front lights)?

ST270

663 posts

183 months

Thursday 5th July 2018
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Mares said:
Regarding reverse led bulbs, what should I pay attention to? As I can see there are different led bulb with mark P21W. Difference is in wattage, I guess more wattage stronger it lights, right? What wattage you reverse led bulb are if you remember? I found local shop selling Cree led bulbs, and eg. wattage varies from 10,5w, 12w, 30w, 40w, 80w (these are 40Eur pair).

Should they also come with CANBUS or can be without it? CANBUS system is to avoid errors on computer?

Also, for rear signal bulbs, did you put identical leds as for reverse bulbs? If I understood you well, for rear lights (reverse, signal) it is simple plug n play replacement, no wiring required (unlike for front lights)?
I can't remember the size / voltage LED however we have replaced all rears with LED - Brake, indicator, reverse & numberplate - has no issues with canbus for any of them.

Muddle238

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3,905 posts

114 months

Thursday 5th July 2018
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I can't remember the wattage but 30W sounds about right. There's no harm in getting CANBUS bulbs. I've had no problems with mine, the same set has been fitted for almost three years now.


Mares

21 posts

71 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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Btw, is there any automatic gearbox software update offered by Citroen dealer meanwhile? My automatic gearbox is working fine, but would like to know whether there have been update on this matter (not mechanical part but software).

Muddle238

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3,905 posts

114 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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Mares said:
Btw, is there any automatic gearbox software update offered by Citroen dealer meanwhile? My automatic gearbox is working fine, but would like to know whether there have been update on this matter (not mechanical part but software).
I have no knowledge of the automatic gearbox in the 5 as I have the manual transmission. However what I do know is that the service book claims the gearbox is "sealed for life" which is rubbish, the 'box oil needs changing. I'd recommend changing the gearbox oil as opposed to doing software updates.

Mares

21 posts

71 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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Yes, I changed oil in gearbox on my service shop recommendation.

Anyhow, I thought maybe there are some software updates related to behavior of gearbox (it is in my mind like I read somewhere over the internet about it, but I could be wrong or I messed up some information).

Mares

21 posts

71 months

Monday 16th July 2018
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Last friday I replaced rear dampers and this is totally different story! I do not know if rear dampers had been replaced before, or it was factory default installation, but with old dampers my car was really badly shaking its ass on almost every single bump. Now, car behaves much more stiffer, no ass shakes noticed (unless I go through really bumpy road in curve, but nothing serious, on straight road I have not noticed yet). Car is a bit softer with rear suspension, which I like, I am very glad I made this upgrade, it is definitely worth. Now I even more like this car (I eliminated one "major" dislike on this car which was caused by previous bad rear dampers).

I noticed old dampers had marking 5099. Not sure if those are default Sachs dampers, when I search over the internet for "shock absorber 5099" I come up with Monroe 5099 dampers for peugeot 206cc??

Nevertheless, good job done.

I am thinking about chip tuning, although I am not lacking power, most of my drive is normal, but extra power is always welcome. I could tune it by professionals up to roughly 410nm and 205hp, which sounds quite good to me. Do you have experience tunning this engine, any pros and cons?


Muddle238

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3,905 posts

114 months

Monday 16th July 2018
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Glad you're happy with the new shocks.

I have no experience of tuning, I've chosen not to chip my engines as I like low-stressed components. I'm sure other people have tuned the DW10C engine, but I'm not the guy to ask unfortunately.

Mares

21 posts

71 months

Monday 16th July 2018
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Yeah no prob mate.

One question about spare wheel. As I have winter set of 4 aluminum rims + tires (17 inch, non-oem), can I use one rim as a spare wheel (during non-winter period), can it be attached to lifting system beneath car?

Muddle238

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3,905 posts

114 months

Monday 16th July 2018
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As long as it fits the hub of your car and has a centre hole in order to place the lifting bracket, should be good!

Mares

21 posts

71 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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I do not understand how wheel carrier system works. Are there any additional bars holding a spare wheel underneath car? I found this item on ebay , this is it right? I can not image entire whell is hanging only onto this wire?

Cristi

7 posts

70 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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Hello everyone! I have a 2013 Citroen DS5 2.0 HDI 165HP.
It takes 7.4l/100km and I mainly drive it outside of city in Germany. I think that is a bit too much.
And also I want to change the rear dampers and i want to know if this is the right one i need to buy and if I need anything else
https://m.autodoc.de/sachs/7167248

Mares

21 posts

71 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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Hi Cristi, is your DS with manual or automatic gearbox? Mine is with automatic gearbox and I had consumption of 7,5l on highway through Germany last month (driving in range 130km/h-160km/h) so I would say your consumption is ok.

For urban drives only mine is consuming around 10l (average speed 25km/h).

Rear dampers from link you put are correct ones. Just reaplce dampers, no need for additional part replacement.

Btw, I am leaving soon to chip tuning service to tune my DS a little bit...will write results later on...

Cristi

7 posts

70 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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Yes, it's also an automatic.
I will buy the dampers and change them and come back with an update.

Steve421

45 posts

70 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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I've had 5 of these in total! 2 Dsport manuals, 2 Dsport hybrids and a Facelift prestige auto. The hybrids make no sense whatsoever as they seem to regenerate every 300 miles to compensate for continuously stop starting and have a gearbox so lethargic you think they have to call Paris HQ to change gear before doing so, manuals were nice and the facelift is all round a much nicer car to drive, especially in terms of suspension (although pre facelifts after September 2014 had the revised suspension too) I think the "Citroen" pre facelift looks much nicer though. Lovely to sit in, the interior still impresses 6 years on.

Muddle238

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3,905 posts

114 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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Steve421 said:
I've had 5 of these in total! 2 Dsport manuals, 2 Dsport hybrids and a Facelift prestige auto. The hybrids make no sense whatsoever as they seem to regenerate every 300 miles to compensate for continuously stop starting and have a gearbox so lethargic you think they have to call Paris HQ to change gear before doing so, manuals were nice and the facelift is all round a much nicer car to drive, especially in terms of suspension (although pre facelifts after September 2014 had the revised suspension too) I think the "Citroen" pre facelift looks much nicer though. Lovely to sit in, the interior still impresses 6 years on.
An experienced 5 owner! I must say I have zero experience of the autos or hybrids, as mine is an early manual car. However I did change the rear suspension parts to match the newer cars during June 2017, making a huge improvement over the original ride.

Today I fitted two brand new number plate light units, as the originals had some light rust developing on the internal contacts. The originals will get cleaned up and placed in my spares department. Other recent work includes a good clean/claybar, plus a recent 700-mile round trip, bringing total mileage for 2018 up to about 2,000 miles or just under.

Steve421

45 posts

70 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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Yours is a beautiful example! White is the best colour in my opinion and the black Cairns alloys suit the car down to a T (The smaller alloys on the DSign and some DStyle models just make the car look far too fat). I like the seats too, although when ordering my original car I was too scared of jeans staining them so went with the white and black watchstrap seats.

Mares

21 posts

71 months

Friday 20th July 2018
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Cristi, maybe you should re-check what dampers your car has because as I know late 2013. models comes with new dampers.

In case you do replacement with new dampers, kindly write here code of your old dampers (you should have label on it) just to have an insight.