2003 Porsche Boxster S

2003 Porsche Boxster S

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shalmaneser

5,934 posts

195 months

Thursday 16th July 2020
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I do like your footwell lights. Especially with them on dim when the headlights are on in the dark it makes the car a much nicer place to be. I'm going to get on that myself.

Car and paint looks really immaculate. I'd love to have a go (very gently and carefully!) at correcting the paint on my 911, what would you suggest as a decent starter kit without spending a fortune?

Rob-c33sg

139 posts

56 months

Thursday 16th July 2020
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Images are awesome sir, nice job sticking with it - looking amazing for it's age especially.

Phillippe Lambert

45 posts

64 months

Thursday 16th July 2020
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Photos are superb. Car look amazing, you've put a lot of work into it. Much want here!

geraintthomas

Original Poster:

900 posts

107 months

Friday 17th July 2020
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shalmaneser said:
I do like your footwell lights. Especially with them on dim when the headlights are on in the dark it makes the car a much nicer place to be. I'm going to get on that myself.

Car and paint looks really immaculate. I'd love to have a go (very gently and carefully!) at correcting the paint on my 911, what would you suggest as a decent starter kit without spending a fortune?
Thank you! I'll give you a hand wiring them if you like.

Regarding polishing, any DAS6 polisher will do the job. Expect to pay around £100 for the machine, then another £30 or £40 for pads and compound.

I wrote up a guide recently on polishing, it has everything you'll need to know. Take a look!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1utU1atyzImernqe6F...

Rob-c33sg said:
Images are awesome sir, nice job sticking with it - looking amazing for it's age especially.
Thank you, very much appreciate it.

Phillippe Lambert said:
Photos are superb. Car look amazing, you've put a lot of work into it. Much want here!
It's been a roller coaster, that's for sure! Many thanks though.

shalmaneser

5,934 posts

195 months

Friday 17th July 2020
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geraintthomas said:
shalmaneser said:
I do like your footwell lights. Especially with them on dim when the headlights are on in the dark it makes the car a much nicer place to be. I'm going to get on that myself.

Car and paint looks really immaculate. I'd love to have a go (very gently and carefully!) at correcting the paint on my 911, what would you suggest as a decent starter kit without spending a fortune?
Thank you! I'll give you a hand wiring them if you like.

Regarding polishing, any DAS6 polisher will do the job. Expect to pay around £100 for the machine, then another £30 or £40 for pads and compound.

I wrote up a guide recently on polishing, it has everything you'll need to know. Take a look!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1utU1atyzImernqe6F...
That's super useful, thanks!

geraintthomas

Original Poster:

900 posts

107 months

Monday 20th July 2020
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Random question, how much would this car be worth? It's in immaculate condition as you can see, and I've installed lots of options, but does have 122,000 on the clock, even though it's better condition with cars that have half of that.

TheOctaneAddict

759 posts

47 months

Monday 20th July 2020
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It's in lovely condition but the mileage and the fact its not standard will harm the value.

I'd say probably £5500 is a fair price.

shalmaneser

5,934 posts

195 months

Monday 20th July 2020
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geraintthomas said:
Random question, how much would this car be worth? It's in immaculate condition as you can see, and I've installed lots of options, but does have 122,000 on the clock, even though it's better condition with cars that have half of that.
Pop it up on the poverty pork thread, might get some interest if you're looking to sell.

geraintthomas

Original Poster:

900 posts

107 months

Monday 20th July 2020
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Not particularly looking to sell, just wouldn't mind knowing the value as I do like cars in general, and often look about on AutoTrader just to see what's about. It's a shame mileage has such an impact, given the condition of this.

ATM

18,290 posts

219 months

Monday 20th July 2020
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shalmaneser said:
geraintthomas said:
Random question, how much would this car be worth? It's in immaculate condition as you can see, and I've installed lots of options, but does have 122,000 on the clock, even though it's better condition with cars that have half of that.
Pop it up on the poverty pork thread, might get some interest if you're looking to sell.
The problem is some people dont see past the mileage. To assess how much better it looks then you have to see it. Nowadays car buying seems to be done unseen so condition is difficult to assess properly. If you are thinking about selling there is no harm in putting an advert together on here and ask people for some unbiased feedback. Then you just need to decide if the people commenting are genuinely unbiased or not. I'm the kind of buyer who is less interested in how clean and shiny a car is and more interested in what jobs and bits have been fixed or replaced which on a Porsche can be important.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 20th July 2020
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geraintthomas said:
Not particularly looking to sell, just wouldn't mind knowing the value as I do like cars in general, and often look about on AutoTrader just to see what's about. It's a shame mileage has such an impact, given the condition of this.
Agreed, from my investigation it appears there is no such thing as a cheap Porsche and it can potentially cost you the purchase price again in repairs if you buy the wrong car.

Smitters

4,003 posts

157 months

Monday 20th July 2020
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geraintthomas said:
Not particularly looking to sell, just wouldn't mind knowing the value as I do like cars in general, and often look about on AutoTrader just to see what's about. It's a shame mileage has such an impact, given the condition of this.
I think in this case you have to find the right buyer. This is someone who will place value on the unusual and unique, not someone who just wants a Boxster.

I had issues selling a 350Z GT4. Limited edition, limited numbers, but 135k. In the end I priced it as though it was a normal 350Z and got enquiries, then a phone call where it basically went: Is it as described? Is it a GT4? Is that really the price? Take my money now, see you tomorrow.

Gutting for me and a bargain for him. I just needed patience but with a baby on the way, that wasn't really an option.

SuperBaaaad

1,816 posts

219 months

Monday 20th July 2020
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geraintthomas said:
Hah I wish! Incremental is the way to go to see the evolution of it. You appreciate the car more too, and get to know it better. I've had every single 'common problem' you can think of, so if anything goes wrong just give me a shout and I should be able to give you some guidance!


Headlights are looking like new this evening after the AutoGlym Extra Gloss Protection layer. Hopefully this will help stop the yellowing if applied regularly, so I'll give it a try.



Aside from this, not much to report, other than the AutoFinesse Essence wax looking lovely during the day today.





This is mega. I love 986’s. Congrats on making this one look incredible.

geraintthomas

Original Poster:

900 posts

107 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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ATM said:
The problem is some people dont see past the mileage. To assess how much better it looks then you have to see it. Nowadays car buying seems to be done unseen so condition is difficult to assess properly. If you are thinking about selling there is no harm in putting an advert together on here and ask people for some unbiased feedback. Then you just need to decide if the people commenting are genuinely unbiased or not. I'm the kind of buyer who is less interested in how clean and shiny a car is and more interested in what jobs and bits have been fixed or replaced which on a Porsche can be important.
I see what you mean. It is hard to look past the mileage, and places like AutoTrader automatically stamp a 'High price' on it if you label it higher than others with the same mileage. I saw another 986 at the garage I normally go to, in black with the aero kit. My god it was horrible condition, and it had way less miles than this one. The wheel barrels were rotten, paint was matt and faded, headlights yellowing, leather cracked, brakes rusted, etc. The worst thing is, they could list that at a higher price and people would agree from the photos online.

So you're definitely right in seeing things in the skin. I'd never sell this for the price of a normal 122,000 mile Boxster. I'm not looking to sell anyway, but someone has to see this to see what it's worth.

Joey Deacon said:
Agreed, from my investigation it appears there is no such thing as a cheap Porsche and it can potentially cost you the purchase price again in repairs if you buy the wrong car.
Working on a car yourself certainly helps here, but you're absolutely right. I save a hell of a lot of money by working on this myself and servicing it myself too, but someone else may want a sports car that they can enjoy trouble free, and Porsches do tend to cost a lot at a garage.

Smitters said:
I think in this case you have to find the right buyer. This is someone who will place value on the unusual and unique, not someone who just wants a Boxster.

I had issues selling a 350Z GT4. Limited edition, limited numbers, but 135k. In the end I priced it as though it was a normal 350Z and got enquiries, then a phone call where it basically went: Is it as described? Is it a GT4? Is that really the price? Take my money now, see you tomorrow.

Gutting for me and a bargain for him. I just needed patience but with a baby on the way, that wasn't really an option.
A perfect example. That and what I said above to ATM, is the reason why I couldn't accept the asking price of a usual 122,000 mile Boxster. The condition of it, both cosmetically and mechanically, has been something I've wanted to perfect over the past 5 years, and it's the result of a lot of hard work. There's no knocks, bangs, creaks, leaks, rust, dents, nothing. It drives exactly like it should have from the start.

I may even replace the suspension for coil over suspension at some point, but set at the standard height so that it's simply a suspension refresh, that's adjustable if need be.

SuperBaaaad said:
This is mega. I love 986’s. Congrats on making this one look incredible.
Many thanks, appreciate the kind words!

Escy

3,937 posts

149 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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geraintthomas said:
A perfect example. That and what I said above to ATM, is the reason why I couldn't accept the asking price of a usual 122,000 mile Boxster. The condition of it, both cosmetically and mechanically, has been something I've wanted to perfect over the past 5 years, and it's the result of a lot of hard work. There's no knocks, bangs, creaks, leaks, rust, dents, nothing. It drives exactly like it should have from the start.
What was the cause of your sloppy shifter in the end?

https://youtu.be/zVRKrOCiFZQ

geraintthomas

Original Poster:

900 posts

107 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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Worn plastic bushes on the ends of the shift cable. Other plastic parts were also replaced with metal variants in the shifter, and the fact that it's shorter helped reduce the feel of the slop too. It's very tight now.

Escy

3,937 posts

149 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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Was it all parts at the gear stick end?

RoadRunner220

945 posts

193 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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geraintthomas said:
ATM said:
The problem is some people dont see past the mileage. To assess how much better it looks then you have to see it. Nowadays car buying seems to be done unseen so condition is difficult to assess properly. If you are thinking about selling there is no harm in putting an advert together on here and ask people for some unbiased feedback. Then you just need to decide if the people commenting are genuinely unbiased or not. I'm the kind of buyer who is less interested in how clean and shiny a car is and more interested in what jobs and bits have been fixed or replaced which on a Porsche can be important.
I see what you mean. It is hard to look past the mileage, and places like AutoTrader automatically stamp a 'High price' on it if you label it higher than others with the same mileage. I saw another 986 at the garage I normally go to, in black with the aero kit. My god it was horrible condition, and it had way less miles than this one. The wheel barrels were rotten, paint was matt and faded, headlights yellowing, leather cracked, brakes rusted, etc. The worst thing is, they could list that at a higher price and people would agree from the photos online.

So you're definitely right in seeing things in the skin. I'd never sell this for the price of a normal 122,000 mile Boxster. I'm not looking to sell anyway, but someone has to see this to see what it's worth.
If it was my car, and I was selling, I think I'd put a link to this thread in the advert. That way, any prospective buyer would be able to have a read through and get an understanding of why, despite the mileage, this is worth more than every other 122k or so mileage Boxster.

This thread, and others like it, are like an extra level of service history.

geraintthomas

Original Poster:

900 posts

107 months

Tuesday 21st July 2020
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Escy said:
Was it all parts at the gear stick end?
Surprisingly. There's a tad amount of play, but nothing abnormal. It was an eBay shifter for about £40.

RoadRunner220 said:
If it was my car, and I was selling, I think I'd put a link to this thread in the advert. That way, any prospective buyer would be able to have a read through and get an understanding of why, despite the mileage, this is worth more than every other 122k or so mileage Boxster.

This thread, and others like it, are like an extra level of service history.
That's a great idea. I'll keep it in mind if I do ever want to sell. If someone mentioned a good figure I'd consider it, but as it stands I'm happy to keep it indefinitely and just enjoy it!

Smitters

4,003 posts

157 months

Wednesday 22nd July 2020
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geraintthomas said:
That's a great idea. I'll keep it in mind if I do ever want to sell. If someone mentioned a good figure I'd consider it, but as it stands I'm happy to keep it indefinitely and just enjoy it!
I'd add as a cautionary tale, not to follow up on the car. Again, the 350Z, went from a nice standard example to barried to death in about a month.

https://www.350z-uk.com/topic/87411-dpbaylys-start...

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