1975 Jaguar XJ Coupe 6.0 V12

1975 Jaguar XJ Coupe 6.0 V12

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RobXjcoupe

3,209 posts

92 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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Thought it would.
But before you do, the frameless doors only have a rubber trim to push against to stop water getting in and they are ste. If you cut the gutters off then those rubber seals have got to stop the roof water too. Obviously it's your motor. The rear quarter windows have a slightly better seal but again water will just find a gap and then gradually fill the inner sills after all the hard work to put right the rust between the bottom of the rear quarter panel and the style line that flanges to meet the outer sill.

craigjm

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18,041 posts

201 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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I'm not gonna cut the gutters off one looked closely before and without them there would be serious leak issues

vpr

3,722 posts

239 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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I had this arrive but have decided that I should concentrate on my other projects and not get distracted so if anyone is after a rock hard rot free CA car this one is 9 bags. Runs but only on cold start.

A friend of mine restored a Coupe a couple of years back and spent 20k just on the metal work


RobXjcoupe

3,209 posts

92 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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craigjm said:
I'm not gonna cut the gutters off one looked closely before and without them there would be serious leak issues
I thought of another mod, a late xjs rear axle with outboard disc brakes.

tortop45

434 posts

161 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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Heres mine with out chrome.I like it..

Edited by tortop45 on Wednesday 2nd November 19:16

craigjm

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18,041 posts

201 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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RobXjcoupe said:
craigjm said:
I'm not gonna cut the gutters off one looked closely before and without them there would be serious leak issues
I thought of another mod, a late xjs rear axle with outboard disc brakes.
Already got that it mind if I can find one because I can then paint the calipers!

craigjm

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18,041 posts

201 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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tortop45 said:
Heres mine with out chrome.I like it..
Will see what it looks like before I put it back on after the paint. I think the lack of vinyl roof may mean it stands out strangely without it

RobXjcoupe

3,209 posts

92 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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craigjm said:
RobXjcoupe said:
craigjm said:
I'm not gonna cut the gutters off one looked closely before and without them there would be serious leak issues
I thought of another mod, a late xjs rear axle with outboard disc brakes.
Already got that it mind if I can find one because I can then paint the calipers!
I was thinking of large disc upgrades front and rear with xjr Brembo calipers to shine through the 18" wheels wink
There is a late xjs complete rear axle on eBay at the mo. Do you still have the 4.2 rear diff ratio or has that been changed? There are jaguar power lock diffs that can also be fitted but it's getting the correct diff ratio

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

129 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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Don't do the XJS axle conversion, you gain unsprung weight and lose ride quality...

craigjm

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18,041 posts

201 months

Thursday 3rd November 2016
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RoverP6B said:
Don't do the XJS axle conversion, you gain unsprung weight and lose ride quality...
That is a consideration

craigjm

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18,041 posts

201 months

Thursday 3rd November 2016
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the diff thats on it is 3.54

Edited by craigjm on Thursday 3rd November 00:32

RobXjcoupe

3,209 posts

92 months

Thursday 3rd November 2016
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craigjm said:
RoverP6B said:
Don't do the XJS axle conversion, you gain unsprung weight and lose ride quality...
That is a consideration
The current axle is polybushed so I wouldn't think you would lose ride quality and we are talking jag saloon here not a lightweight TVR chassis with regards to unsprung weight.
It would be a good conversion with regards to maintainance on the rear brakes. wink

RobXjcoupe

3,209 posts

92 months

Thursday 3rd November 2016
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craigjm said:
the diff thats on it is 3.54

Edited by craigjm on Thursday 3rd November 00:32
If you get a manual t5 box on that you get a nice low rpm cruise for motorway but still have pace through the lower gears, more so with that 6.0 you have lol

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

231 months

Thursday 3rd November 2016
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I'm sure others like me are big fans of Miles Classic, their XJCs are gorgeous. Can't help noticing they have no stock now though, haven't had for a while.

Trouble getting hold of donor cars at sensible prices maybe?

http://milesclassic.co.uk/cars/

craigjm

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18,041 posts

201 months

Thursday 3rd November 2016
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Beefmeister said:
I'm sure others like me are big fans of Miles Classic, their XJCs are gorgeous. Can't help noticing they have no stock now though, haven't had for a while.

Trouble getting hold of donor cars at sensible prices maybe?

http://milesclassic.co.uk/cars/
Myles isn't doing anything for stock anymore. He will now source you a car and then sell you a patina, restoration or restomod package. I think his patina and restored options are good (Callum's car for instance) but his restomods are not forward thinking enough for me

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Thursday 3rd November 2016
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craigjm said:
...but his restomods are not forward thinking enough for me
Surely he'd do the mods you wanted?

craigjm

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Thursday 3rd November 2016
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TooMany2cvs said:
Surely he'd do the mods you wanted?
Well yes but when I spoke to him I expected his ideas to be inspiring me. I told him I wanted to create a car that looked like an XJC reimagined for the 21st century spec wise and to look like an XJC-R had they had ability to make such a thing. His response was quite muted whereas Keith at XJ was enthusiastic and like what about this? And I think this would work what do you think? Etc



RobXjcoupe

3,209 posts

92 months

Thursday 3rd November 2016
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craigjm said:
TooMany2cvs said:
Surely he'd do the mods you wanted?
Well yes but when I spoke to him I expected his ideas to be inspiring me. I told him I wanted to create a car that looked like an XJC reimagined for the 21st century spec wise and to look like an XJC-R had they had ability to make such a thing. His response was quite muted whereas Keith at XJ was enthusiastic and like what about this? And I think this would work what do you think? Etc
Looking at his past restorations I think he only likes working on the car if it remains a standard bodyshell. I don't think he does anything avantgarde in case it puts off a future client. But he charges £45k for a car worth £20k mint. If you handed over £20k and could sell for £20k then maybe more owners would bite the bullet and send there cars off to him. A body off chassis restoration on my griff only comes in at £15k for a car worth £20k mint

craigjm

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18,041 posts

201 months

Thursday 3rd November 2016
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The XJ's are very expensive to work on to get right though. I don't want to think about the amount I am spending but the way I justify it is if I buy say a new XF for 50k in 3 years time it will be worth 24k max. Spend the same money making the XJC what you want and in three years time it would be worth 24k too so the man maths kind of says it works if that makes sense.

RobXjcoupe

3,209 posts

92 months

Thursday 3rd November 2016
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craigjm said:
The XJ's are very expensive to work on to get right though. I don't want to think about the amount I am spending but the way I justify it is if I buy say a new XF for 50k in 3 years time it will be worth 24k max. Spend the same money making the XJC what you want and in three years time it would be worth 24k too so the man maths kind of says it works if that makes sense.
I'm all for restoration on our classic cars in what ever spec but it annoys me that because certain brands are deemed expensive then someone tries to take what my car is worth via the restoration leaving me with a depreciating car again. Does that make sense?