2012 Mazda CX-5 2.0 GT-M. Utterly random purchase.
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kapiteinlangzaam said:
Hahah, ill post up a pic in due course! Its a 3 cyl Bluemotion jobby. It goes quite well!
Never having been involved in such an accident before, its not a lie to say you can wake up with a stiff neck! Ouch!
First thing to do this morning is try and get the bay seat replaced under the Maxi-Cosi crash exchange service.... everything costs time. Annoying!
I was in a similar crash back in summer 2014, and ended up in hospital on a spinal board as a precaution. Didnt seem that painful at the time, but ended up needing 15 sessions of physio and limited movement for 5-6 months. Did get a nice payout in the end. Never having been involved in such an accident before, its not a lie to say you can wake up with a stiff neck! Ouch!
First thing to do this morning is try and get the bay seat replaced under the Maxi-Cosi crash exchange service.... everything costs time. Annoying!
Whenever I see a bodyshop courtesy car I always give a little more room... 
You really can be stiff after a prang, even at low speeds. I have had a head on collision before at >30 mph and was still rather sore for over a week. Didn't go to the doctors though, as 17 year olds seem to be killed or be fine in a car crash.
You really can be stiff after a prang, even at low speeds. I have had a head on collision before at >30 mph and was still rather sore for over a week. Didn't go to the doctors though, as 17 year olds seem to be killed or be fine in a car crash.
kapiteinlangzaam said:
Been down to see the car this morning.
It will definitely be repaired, total damage is around €10k - which obviously doesnt write off a €26k car.
There was already a nice collection of genuine new Mazda parts sitting in the corner.
The only problem is that the whole front bumper is on back-order with an unknown delivery time. They will try to get more info before Wednesday, but the (very friendly) chap said they have had cases in the past where it has taken months..... so we will cross that bridge when we come to it.
He also mentioned that Mazda parts are in general very good value, hence the relatively low price of the repair.
How do courtesy/rental car things work there? In the UK this is the kind of situation which results in cars being 'Cat D'd'. Salvage value plus repair costs equals less than the cost to replace the car, but if the time it's off the road is unknown the rental car costs can result in it being paid out as a total loss.It will definitely be repaired, total damage is around €10k - which obviously doesnt write off a €26k car.
There was already a nice collection of genuine new Mazda parts sitting in the corner.
The only problem is that the whole front bumper is on back-order with an unknown delivery time. They will try to get more info before Wednesday, but the (very friendly) chap said they have had cases in the past where it has taken months..... so we will cross that bridge when we come to it.
He also mentioned that Mazda parts are in general very good value, hence the relatively low price of the repair.
Can you request a 'like for like' car while yours is off being fixed or are you stuck with a Polo for the duration?
Ah, bloody hell!
What a pain - in your neck and back, too.
I rear ended a car a few years ago, a mk 5 Escort, into an Audi A4, on the Brussels Ring. It wasn't my finest moment. My MD was in my car with me. My S-Max had a €16k repair bill, the Kevcort was written off, and the A4 had €2.5k repair. My insurance paid for it all, and I only lost 5% NCB!
I hope it gets sorted soon. (Lux insurers would give like-for-like replacement when someone else is paying....)
BTW, the US CX5 I had was "OK". I wouldn't buy one in the US, for sure. Slushbox was slow to react. 32k miles old.
What a pain - in your neck and back, too.
I rear ended a car a few years ago, a mk 5 Escort, into an Audi A4, on the Brussels Ring. It wasn't my finest moment. My MD was in my car with me. My S-Max had a €16k repair bill, the Kevcort was written off, and the A4 had €2.5k repair. My insurance paid for it all, and I only lost 5% NCB!
I hope it gets sorted soon. (Lux insurers would give like-for-like replacement when someone else is paying....)
BTW, the US CX5 I had was "OK". I wouldn't buy one in the US, for sure. Slushbox was slow to react. 32k miles old.
kapiteinlangzaam said:
Changed the loaner to a Golf Estate. Much better for our needs.
Will make quite an interesting comparison to the Focus, seeing as they are direct competition. The Golf is a 105bhp TSi.
Seems by many accounts the 1.2 TSi is a great little engine. Interested to here what you think of it. Its a 4-pot though so probably a little less characterful than the ford.Will make quite an interesting comparison to the Focus, seeing as they are direct competition. The Golf is a 105bhp TSi.
Not wanting to be a party pooper.......but are you sure that paint match is acceptable? The rear bumper to rear door difference looks quite a bit darker than the original pictures you put up when it was at the dealers.
These days you shouldn't have to accept paint differences that are that far out - the technology exists to get the match pretty much perfect.
I only mention it as you were talking about seeing if you could get compensation for the reduced value of the car post accident; something that is probably a bit of a stretch to be honest (having worked for an insurer, I have a decent insight), but that said if the paint match is as far off as it looks it may give you more leverage. Assuming that 1) Its as bad as it looks and 2) they are not willing to rectify it.
These days you shouldn't have to accept paint differences that are that far out - the technology exists to get the match pretty much perfect.
I only mention it as you were talking about seeing if you could get compensation for the reduced value of the car post accident; something that is probably a bit of a stretch to be honest (having worked for an insurer, I have a decent insight), but that said if the paint match is as far off as it looks it may give you more leverage. Assuming that 1) Its as bad as it looks and 2) they are not willing to rectify it.
I remember the last Focus RS in green had the same issue from the factory. The bumpers NEVER matched the body.
As for panel blending when painting, it's what I'd EXPECT, but it rarely happens as insurers are too tight to pay for it. Also, too many bodyshops use paint "out of a tin" and not colour matched (electronic eye used on paint mixing systems).
(My brother is area GM for a large company of bodyshops in the U.S and they routinely blend panels either side, but they also mix paint to match anyway.)
We've a similar issue with my wife's Octavia, which is white, and had the front passenger door repainted; it doesn't match the rest of the right side of the car. I will be taking the car back to the bodyshop who painted it as they ASSURED me it was due to the water based lacquer, and the yellow tinge would fade and it would be unnoticeable. 3 months on, it hasn't changed.
Pleased to hear though that your bodyshop will repaint it.
As for panel blending when painting, it's what I'd EXPECT, but it rarely happens as insurers are too tight to pay for it. Also, too many bodyshops use paint "out of a tin" and not colour matched (electronic eye used on paint mixing systems).
(My brother is area GM for a large company of bodyshops in the U.S and they routinely blend panels either side, but they also mix paint to match anyway.)
We've a similar issue with my wife's Octavia, which is white, and had the front passenger door repainted; it doesn't match the rest of the right side of the car. I will be taking the car back to the bodyshop who painted it as they ASSURED me it was due to the water based lacquer, and the yellow tinge would fade and it would be unnoticeable. 3 months on, it hasn't changed.
Pleased to hear though that your bodyshop will repaint it.
Is that your work car park? I only ask as given cloggy registration duty, I’m guessing the Corvette parked next to you might not have been the cheapest car in history…and thus may have been bought on the same tax treatment as the Mustang is to be?
Back on topic, it does (caveat: to my eyes in these photos) look better than it did (although it’s hard to tell definitively without wandering around and looking at both panels from different angles).
Back on topic, it does (caveat: to my eyes in these photos) look better than it did (although it’s hard to tell definitively without wandering around and looking at both panels from different angles).
5potTurbo said:
I remember the last Focus RS in green had the same issue from the factory. The bumpers NEVER matched the body.
As for panel blending when painting, it's what I'd EXPECT, but it rarely happens as insurers are too tight to pay for it. Also, too many bodyshops use paint "out of a tin" and not colour matched (electronic eye used on paint mixing systems).
(My brother is area GM for a large company of bodyshops in the U.S and they routinely blend panels either side, but they also mix paint to match anyway.)
We've a similar issue with my wife's Octavia, which is white, and had the front passenger door repainted; it doesn't match the rest of the right side of the car. I will be taking the car back to the bodyshop who painted it as they ASSURED me it was due to the water based lacquer, and the yellow tinge would fade and it would be unnoticeable. 3 months on, it hasn't changed.
Pleased to hear though that your bodyshop will repaint it.
Is the bumper issue something to do with painting on plastics vs metal? I have noticed on a few cars that the plastic parts come up a little different vs the metal parts.As for panel blending when painting, it's what I'd EXPECT, but it rarely happens as insurers are too tight to pay for it. Also, too many bodyshops use paint "out of a tin" and not colour matched (electronic eye used on paint mixing systems).
(My brother is area GM for a large company of bodyshops in the U.S and they routinely blend panels either side, but they also mix paint to match anyway.)
We've a similar issue with my wife's Octavia, which is white, and had the front passenger door repainted; it doesn't match the rest of the right side of the car. I will be taking the car back to the bodyshop who painted it as they ASSURED me it was due to the water based lacquer, and the yellow tinge would fade and it would be unnoticeable. 3 months on, it hasn't changed.
Pleased to hear though that your bodyshop will repaint it.
The second colour match looks decent enough to me. Seems to match boot lid fine, but is a little off vs the quarter panel. But I think for anyone who didn't know, unless eagle eyed, they wouldn't notice if you didn't point it out.
Why don't you like the engine?
Edited by Otispunkmeyer on Friday 8th April 09:55
Edited by Otispunkmeyer on Friday 8th April 09:56
kapiteinlangzaam said:
The OutLaw's are getting rid of their 2006 Pug 407SW 2.0 in a few months. Got 150k miles on it, but its in bloody good condition and has been babied its entire life by them. Its worth about €1900 as a trade-in, which they are happy to let me have it for. It would be a sensible thing to have on the drive I think, for snowy winter days apart from anything else.
What is it with Cloggies and big Peugeots?! The 508 is really popular there too, and even the French don't buy those 
kapiteinlangzaam said:
@ Otis, yes I think now the colour match falls in to the realm of 'acceptable'.... the problem is indeed because of the difference in materials. Still, the idea of the insurance is to put me back in the position I was in the before the crash (i.e. in a monocolour car!). Im satisfied the repair shop cant do any better, and ive let the insurance company know im ultimately not 100% satisfied on the colour match.... I will see if anything comes back from them.
Re: the engine. Its loud, crashy, harsh. Ultimately not very refined and has a very weird power band. Its not terrible, dont get me wrong, it just doesnt sparkle and its got no character.
Re: snotters - I might have lined something up! The OutLaw's are getting rid of their 2006 Pug 407SW 2.0 in a few months. Got 150k miles on it, but its in bloody good condition and has been babied its entire life by them. Its worth about €1900 as a trade-in, which they are happy to let me have it for. It would be a sensible thing to have on the drive I think, for snowy winter days apart from anything else.
Its the 165 BHP version of the SkyactiveG engine right?Re: the engine. Its loud, crashy, harsh. Ultimately not very refined and has a very weird power band. Its not terrible, dont get me wrong, it just doesnt sparkle and its got no character.
Re: snotters - I might have lined something up! The OutLaw's are getting rid of their 2006 Pug 407SW 2.0 in a few months. Got 150k miles on it, but its in bloody good condition and has been babied its entire life by them. Its worth about €1900 as a trade-in, which they are happy to let me have it for. It would be a sensible thing to have on the drive I think, for snowy winter days apart from anything else.
I guess this is just the Japanese way when it comes to engines. Our Honda civic is similarly loud and I know harsh, nasty sounding 4-cylinder noise was a defining feature of my parents old Rav 4. Picking up a Mazda 3 tomorrow with the 120 PS version of the Skyactiv G engine, it is loud if you want to string it out but I found it fairly pleasant at normal driving and accelerating. Its certainly quieter and smoother than the 1.8 in our Civic!
I suspect the high compression ratio plays a part in the engine noise. Certainly on cold starting it sounds like its got a hole in the exhaust its that loud, but that subsides quickly. Its just using some clever injection and really retarded timing to boost the exhaust temps in order for the cat to work. Its a problem brought on by using very long 4-2-1 exhaust runners to stop hot gasses recirculating to other cylinders. Keeps the cylinder charge cool enough to allow for really high compression, but in turn doesn't keep the exhaust hot enough for the catalyst to work.
I have been reading about their second gen engines and they are targeting 18:1 compression and HCCI type operation!!! (petrol)
jamiebae said:
What is it with Cloggies and big Peugeots?! The 508 is really popular there too, and even the French don't buy those
Its a lease-tax thing, the 508 and 308 had rather financially interesting versions over here, just as the megane had a few years back, and given how much wallet-rape the cloggy motorist already endures, we tend to go for whichever car makes us bend over least when choosing a new lease-mobile.Cars like the 1.5 ecodiesel megane, 308sw and that ridiculous outlander PHEV all topped charts purely because they have less company car tax
Vitorio said:
Its a lease-tax thing, the 508 and 308 had rather financially interesting versions over here, just as the megane had a few years back, and given how much wallet-rape the cloggy motorist already endures, we tend to go for whichever car makes us bend over least when choosing a new lease-mobile.
Cars like the 1.5 ecodiesel megane, 308sw and that ridiculous outlander PHEV all topped charts purely because they have less company car tax
Yeah, I thought as much. One of my favourite things at Le Mans used to be talking to Dutch and Danes about how much their (inevitable) Peugeot 407 diesel cost to buy and run, while standing next to my Lotue Elise Cars like the 1.5 ecodiesel megane, 308sw and that ridiculous outlander PHEV all topped charts purely because they have less company car tax
Thankfully in Switzerland there's no such rubbish, making it a financially prudent decision for me to opt for the 240BHP petrol 4x4 version over the more dreary diesel options
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