1992 Peugeot 106 XSi - Strip, Respray, Rebuild OEM+

1992 Peugeot 106 XSi - Strip, Respray, Rebuild OEM+

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dom9

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8,078 posts

209 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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Jerry Can said:
looks like you are running shorter springs to lower the ride height? if so mount your track rod ends upside down onto the strut, it will reduce bump steer. The passenger side nut for the steering rod is a PITA!
Ah ha - That's good info! Thanks for that... Might flip them over when it is back from paint.

The pass side is a nightmare. Need some blowtorch action but don't have one to hand (mine doesn't seem to be playing ball).

The issue was when removing them I battered them with a hammer (in the knowledge I had new ones) and the first couple of threads are screwed and I also don't have a die.

Will work something out in the morning.

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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They're a bit more expensive (iirc 100 quid-ish), but a chap on the Rallye forum sells rose-jointed arms to correct the bump steer, much easier to adjust than the standard ones too. smile

Thanks for the heads up on the tank, figured it would be that one... I'll have to invest!

Paul106xsi

3 posts

85 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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Hi Dom, great thread. I’ve got one of these myself in cherry red. Something I’m especially interested in is the Rallye inlet manifold. I bought one a little while ago for my xsi but bottled it when I started reading about cutting holes in the side etc etc. I think yours is the first post I’ve seen in a long time when it’s being fitted to an S1 rather than a new 106/ saxo. Do you have any pictures of yours set up? Also where did you get the hose connector and what did you do to connect it up?

I’ve got a spare xsi air box if you are still on the lookout for one? Keep up the good work.

dom9

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8,078 posts

209 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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Paul106xsi said:
Hi Dom, great thread. I’ve got one of these myself in cherry red. Something I’m especially interested in is the Rallye inlet manifold. I bought one a little while ago for my xsi but bottled it when I started reading about cutting holes in the side etc etc. I think yours is the first post I’ve seen in a long time when it’s being fitted to an S1 rather than a new 106/ saxo. Do you have any pictures of yours set up? Also where did you get the hose connector and what did you do to connect it up?

I’ve got a spare xsi air box if you are still on the lookout for one? Keep up the good work.
Hi Paul - The Rallye manifold is on 'hold' while I get the car running. I actually have two of them now. One 'standard' one and one with the 'hole' in the side. Will get it all fitted up once the car is 'finished' and running on the standard stuff. There is some good info in this thread for how to pipe it all up. I'd actually like to retain the standard XSi throttle as I think that may make things slightly easier and you'd just need an adaptor between the TB and Rallye manifold.

I picked up an XSi airbox a couple of weeks ago. What I didn't notice is that one of the clips has snapped off. Ok, I noticed it didn't have a clip but didn't notice that the 'mounting' for I was battered. So I guess I am still looking for an airbox!

Krikkit said:
They're a bit more expensive (iirc 100 quid-ish), but a chap on the Rallye forum sells rose-jointed arms to correct the bump steer, much easier to adjust than the standard ones too. smile

Thanks for the heads up on the tank, figured it would be that one... I'll have to invest!
I think I've seen that ad... I might have a look into those! Going to have a bath because my back is hurting like an old man and then I shall be back in the garage ahead of the truck coming at 11am to take it to paint. Really need to secure up this pass side steering arm. The nut goes on a thread or two and then the whole thing just starts spinning. I'll work something out!

Kitchski

6,515 posts

231 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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Jerry Can said:
looks like you are running shorter springs to lower the ride height? if so mount your track rod ends upside down onto the strut, it will reduce bump steer. The passenger side nut for the steering rod is a PITA!
Are the balljoints not tapered?

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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dom9 said:
Krikkit said:
They're a bit more expensive (iirc 100 quid-ish), but a chap on the Rallye forum sells rose-jointed arms to correct the bump steer, much easier to adjust than the standard ones too. smile

Thanks for the heads up on the tank, figured it would be that one... I'll have to invest!
I think I've seen that ad... I might have a look into those! Going to have a bath because my back is hurting like an old man and then I shall be back in the garage ahead of the truck coming at 11am to take it to paint. Really need to secure up this pass side steering arm. The nut goes on a thread or two and then the whole thing just starts spinning. I'll work something out!
Probably too late now, but some track rod ends have a flattened side to get an adjustable spanner on to stop that happening.

I also think the ball joints are tapered, but can't remember off-hand, hence the kit mentioned rather than just swapping the arms top->bottom (you also get slight clearance issues with standard arms doing that - at full droop the arm will foul the chassis slightly).

dom9

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8,078 posts

209 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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Kitchski said:
Are the balljoints not tapered?
Yes - That's a good point! I'll have a look when it comes back. To be honest; I'd be quite happy just getting the old one off and the new one on in standard orientation!

Krikkit said:
Probably too late now, but some track rod ends have a flattened side to get an adjustable spanner on to stop that happening.

I also think the ball joints are tapered, but can't remember off-hand, hence the kit mentioned rather than just swapping the arms top->bottom (you also get slight clearance issues with standard arms doing that - at full droop the arm will foul the chassis slightly).
Interestingly, unlike the drop links, they didn't have a 'flat' to get a spanner on... to be honest, it's secure enough to wheel round a paint booth and I'll deal with it when it's back.

Here's the pic of it on the trailer before we set off - Looks weirdly low at the back but don't the white wheels look great?

So, a few weeks break now... Other than having to sort the drivetrain and move house on Friday!



Will get some pictures from the paint shop guys to keep this alive!

dom9

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209 months

Friday 7th April 2017
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Proper progress!





















Thanks to Will at Claremont Coachworks for the pictures. Looks like they're doing a great job though I need some more new parts!

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Friday 7th April 2017
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Ooh, lovely. Shame about the TRE's - some seem to have flats, others not.

si_xsi

1,193 posts

195 months

Friday 7th April 2017
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That's coming along nicely Dom, the paint prep looks very thorough which of course is a good thing! Looking forward to seeing the finished job paint. My 1992 XSi was cherry red and the paintwork on the bonnet and roof looked like someone had washed it with a metal scouring pad, that and the previous owners cat sitting on it when I arrived to purchase it back in 2005 should have put me off. But the test drive was enough for me to carry on. I handed of £750 (it had about 65,000 miles and 5 owners) and proceeded to cost me a fortune whilst I was at University. There must only be 20 or so left on the roads now? Hardly see any 106 GTIs either.

Anyway, enough of my waffle - carry on thumbup

Kitchski

6,515 posts

231 months

Friday 7th April 2017
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Looking good mate smile

dom9

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209 months

Friday 7th April 2017
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Flats would have helped me secure it but ultimately the old one needs to come off anyway and the new one on... I think that'll require heat!

Anyone know a new supplier of rear bumpers for the XSI? Both sides mounting points broke and I'm not sure I fancy taking the risk on a 2nd hand one in case they're broken.

Our broadband is out today ("problem in the exchange, sir, up to 2 days to fix") so my Google-fu is seriously limited frown

dom9

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209 months

Friday 7th April 2017
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Thanks guys - my Blackberry seems to know broadband is out so has decided to slow right down as well.

I think the prep work looks really good so I am hoping for a good result and other than the rear bumper, I think all the trim survived and they're going to spray the inserts red for me as a nod to my old Miami 205.

A few GTis with low miles seem to have popped up recently on this forum (check the retro cars thread) in good nick but they do seem rare. A 'working' XSi seems even rarer. That red one I posted a few months back at mega-money is the only one I've seen for a while.

I ought to be in the garage building an engine but the weather is just too good and Mrs9 is a teacher and off at the moment... Bella the labrador agrees as I got a call from a neighbour to say she somehow appeared in their garden, playing with their kids!


si_xsi

1,193 posts

195 months

Friday 7th April 2017
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I think some of the XSI's had the red inserts as standard - perhaps just the 1.6's or an inclusion at some stage of the model life?


Kitchski

6,515 posts

231 months

Friday 7th April 2017
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I know my XSi had red inserts, that was black too. I'm not sure all did though - certainly not seen a red XSi with red strips, or even a blue one for that matter, so I guess it depends what colour the paint was.

I know with the BX 16V, the red cars had black trim, while the black, white, green, silver and grey cars had red trim.

dom9

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209 months

Friday 7th April 2017
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Yeah, Google threw up a few pics of blue ones with red inserts that swayed me and it worked so well on the 205 but I think you guys are right as I haven't seen a blue one with red inserts for sale here.

I do think it'll help it 'pop' with the new paint and wheels smile

I would have LOVED a grey, non-sunny car but there just wasn't one on the market (though there is one for sale in Scotland, which was originally sold as great condition but seems to have gone back up for sale a couple of times with various problems).

I'm happy with Miami, like my first 205 GTi, and it compliments my blue Clio V6 and blue BMW... It's a bit boring in my garage biggrin

Trollied

279 posts

135 months

Friday 7th April 2017
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Such a decent read, with a cup of coffee, while the daughters eat their dinner!

Bookmarked, can't wait to see what it looks like after paint!

dom9

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209 months

Friday 7th April 2017
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Thanks Trollied - that's very kind!

Might drop the gearbox at the refurbers with the Quaife ATB - more progress without having to lift a finger!

Still I did have to get two engines in and out of the removal van... on my own with no hoist etc!



Let's just say that the alloy block 'Cup' engine is significantly lighter! There's no way I'm not going to try and make that work!

neilbauer

2,467 posts

183 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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Looking good Dom smile

lowly106

28 posts

183 months

Saturday 8th April 2017
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Well..... its a miami blue xsi... its bloody brilliant...

I'm probably bias though




Great to see another being giving some proper TLC.. great work!