2003 BMW M3 - The New Daily

2003 BMW M3 - The New Daily

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Mr Whippy

29,055 posts

242 months

Monday 15th January 2018
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It looks like you had a great run out to the Dales!

I really need to get out onto these roads (living in the Dales I've no excuse), but the new 335dXd just isn't that kinda car, and to go alone in the Z4 leaving the wife looking after the little one would get me in big trouble wink

This is why I need an M3 haha, it's a 'family' trip out then biggrin



I've been reading a bit about garaging at 40% RH or lower to inhibit rust altogether, and also to dry the car out. I'm thinking then that winter use is fairly ok as it'll not rust without moisture, and/or giving it a good rinse after a long wintery run.

What is your current garage strategy?

M3 wings seem to be getting more expensive... and unlike my Z4 where you can swap front/rear wings fairly easily, the M3 rear wing is clearly a much bigger/costly job.
Infact the main bodywork rust is my main worry with an M3 over anything else as it's almost all non-DIY work and a cheap job will not be nice biggrin

Dave

C2james

4,685 posts

166 months

Tuesday 16th January 2018
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Just read the whole thread, I’m looking at buying an M3 right now so good to take note! I’m going from a clio 200.

SebringMan

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1,773 posts

187 months

Monday 22nd January 2018
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Mr Whippy said:
I've been reading a bit about garaging at 40% RH or lower to inhibit rust altogether, and also to dry the car out. I'm thinking then that winter use is fairly ok as it'll not rust without moisture, and/or giving it a good rinse after a long wintery run.

What is your current garage strategy?

M3 wings seem to be getting more expensive... and unlike my Z4 where you can swap front/rear wings fairly easily, the M3 rear wing is clearly a much bigger/costly job.
Infact the main bodywork rust is my main worry with an M3 over anything else as it's almost all non-DIY work and a cheap job will not be nice biggrin

Dave
Yup, you really are lucky with the stunning scenery around you. I guess it's not called God's county for nothing wink.

As for my garage strategy it has changed it was this before:

1) Keep it outside but ensure the arches etc. are clean ; a pressure washer comes in handy here.
2) Wash it ; that of course goes hand in hand with the above.

Now it's changed to the following:

1) Store it whenever I don't need it over winter
2) Make sure it is clean when it is stored.

Storing it also allows me to do a few jobs on it with less time constraints.

C2james said:
Just read the whole thread, I’m looking at buying an M3 right now so good to take note! I’m going from a clio 200.
Cheers! I did a similar switch. I went from a 172 to this smile. Which 200 do you have? The 200 or the new turbo one?

As for the car it was out for about 3 weeks since I took it out of storage. It was good to be driving it again and I soon settle down into the groove. I even booked it in for the annual MOT. Despite me worrying it passed with zero advisories, with not even tyres making it onto the list. A good result indeed for its second MOT under my ownership.

However, a week before I had the dreaded EML light come on briefly with the car feeling a little flat. It did not however come on since. Being me I got out INPA again and checked the codes. As suspected it was my VANOS giving me issues, with the codes pointing towards the solenoid pack and its seals. For those wondering my codes were 72 and 184, refering in particular to the intake advance and the intake control. I did have them a while back but they didn't come back and I never had an EML on either.

I then weighed up my options. Initially, I saw them as going to Beisan and getting the 'uprated' parts. Upon speaking to a known VANOS repairer I was informed that a few Beisan fixes were leaking and had the solenoids fail, with a new VANOS valve block being recommended, although he did do refurbs. He offered me his Valve block for £220 on an exchange basis, with a new block being £550, which he could only get, and was unavailable from BMW.

This was strange as I've never heard of a Beisan failure, and neither have a few specialists I have spoken to. What's more, BMW do sell a new VANOS block, and for £470 with discount. It's funny, I thought I could not get the parts. After checking further I went with the following:

-Beisan Solenoid pack with the Viton valve block seals
-Updated bolts from BMW ; as expected these were cheaper than what Hack Engineering wanted.

The entire lot came to £270, with me getting back £100 if I return my old unit back. All of this was sourced from Hack Engineering bar the bolts.

With that in mind it was time for me to crack on with the fix. But first I'd have to put the M3 away. This involved the car dance of me putting the W124 back into storage while I went on my Yorkshire trip:

Once a few weeks had passed the M3 would be put back again. Now I could make a start on the VANOS refurbishment:

Untitled by Charlieboy, on Flickr

First of all I cleaned out the valve block, using a magnet and carb cleaner as suggested. Stuff came out, but not as bad as I was expecting:

Untitled by Charlieboy, on Flickr

I then moved onto the seals, where I bought a craft knife specifically for the job. This made cutting out the seals a relatively simple task. The two seals I had cut out were worse than the two here, but this kind of wear is probably to be expected.

Untitled by Charlieboy, on Flickr

I then wasted no time in cleaning up the parts and fitting the new seals:

Untitled by Charlieboy, on Flickr

Untitled by Charlieboy, on Flickr

With that done it was time to marry up the refurbished solenoid pack against the valve block:

Untitled by Charlieboy, on Flickr

Since that was done I just had to refit it to the car again:

Untitled by Charlieboy, on Flickr

Since the bonnet was open and the car is being stored I decided to briefly put the CTEK on to keep the battery in good heath:

Untitled by Charlieboy, on Flickr

Some of you familiar with the procedure will have noticed that I didn't touch the seals on the VANOS pressure regulator. My reason? I did that back in April when I gave the car an oil change. I pulled it out and it looked OK there; I was surprised to see that the seal I had changed was going square again. Since it is a very easy valve to remove in situ I may just do that in the future and see if the Beisan item fares any better.

So far I cannot comment on the difference it has made since I merely fired the car up to ensure that it wouldn't leak again. All was well there and there were more warning lights. I also plan to check and clear the codes one more time just to keep an eye on things smile.

SebringMan

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1,773 posts

187 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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For those who think an M3 should only be touched by specialists or left stock I'd look away now!

CarPlay addition E46 M3 by Charlieboy, on Flickr

I'm dealing with an issue I've had for a while and if you look carefully in previous shots you'll know what problem I had, More to come later smile.

C2james

4,685 posts

166 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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I’ve got the old proper 200, Alien Green and recaros!

SebringMan

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1,773 posts

187 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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C2james said:
I’ve got the old proper 200, Alien Green and recaros!
Ah, a good old 2.0! They are such a great shape! Unlike the 172 they do look different enough to a normal Clio so as to differentiate them.

I guess I better come to why my dashboard is a mess. Basically, I really wanted Bluetooth audio playback in my M3. With a tape deck this wasn't going to happen without taking a massive quality hit or searching out a later CD Player that can take an aux-in. With this in mind I went with a CD player that has now been in a few of my cars now, the trusty Alpine:

Pre-carplay by Charlieboy, on Flickr

This despite appearances brought a few benefits including clearer handsfree speaking than the factory Bluetooth system, Sat-Nav instructions through the CD player itself in addition to broadening my music collection for the car a little further. It's not like I haven't done any long distance trips in this car since I bought it wink.

Unfortunately I could never get the headunit to ever sit flush. Since I put the car into storage it's given me the opportunity to sort out a few things with less of a time constraint or a need to get things back together. Not that it's stopped me previously from driving a car with bits of interior missing, as my friends can testify!

For over a year I've really fancied an Apple CarPlay headunit of sorts with DAB if possible. The problem is a large number of them are true Double-DIN HUs. This means that without butchering the dashboard, or in particular the heater box you have to live with losing the heater controls to your feet. This means you either have to live with no or little air going to your feet and potentially a compromised screen heater if you keep the feet flap open. Given that I quite like being thawed up in cold and/or wet conditions that was not an option for me.

This obviously left me to choose with the Shallow-Depth HUs. Alpine's iLX-700 was a contender. I like it but not the fact that your phone needs to be plugged in to even use the Sat Nav or even receive calls ; it has no Bluetooth. I also didn't want to pay £400 but it didn't stop me looking at one for ages.

Alpine's iLX-702E46 solution went out of the window too. Sure it does the lot but it is also £800 and I'd rather spend that cash elsewhere on the car where it needs it more.

In the end I found out that Sony started doing a Single DIN based CarPlay unit. The XAV-AX100. I had heard from an installer that this could be fitted with zero modifications and still sound pretty good. Furthermore, at £300, and with Bluetooth, CarPlay and Android Auto should I switch phones in the future it's better value ; I even have the option to add a permanent Sat-nav solution unlike the Alpine. With that in mind it was a done deal.

Since I was away from the car I figured I'd quickly trial it in the Mercedes in case I had second thoughts and felt like returning it. OK, it looked naff in there but its potential was very clearly shown. This would be a keeper:



With that in mind there was nothing else left to do except tear out CD player. But not before I went to an M3 meet ; pics of that will come later since I took none!

CarPlay addition E46 M3 by Charlieboy, on Flickr

The heater vent, the trim, SMG dome and surround, heater control unit and cubby hole storage all were removed in the quest to see what I had to play with.

CarPlay addition E46 M3 by Charlieboy, on Flickr

I then tried to refit the stock Alpine HU back in with the wires on. Even without the above cage for the stock CD player and heater control unit it was never going to fit. Me having the Harman Kardon system probably doesn't help ; I have RCA cables to transmit the signal to the HK stuff. Once I put the Sony alongside the Alpine it was easy to see why the Alpine would never fit into the hole (ooooh eerrrrr)!

CarPlay addition E46 M3 by Charlieboy, on Flickr

The Alpine at the bottom of the above picture was longer than the Sony, by quite a way! With the mic plugged in and the steering controls it would never work.

With that in mind it was time to see if the Sony would fit with everything attached, before I ordered up adaptors and so on. It's not the first time I've been told something will fit when it won't:

CarPlay addition E46 M3 by Charlieboy, on Flickr

Excuse the music, I blame my friends, honest!

In short, it fits perfectly. Whether this will be the case with the Double DIN adaptor is to be seen but with the order now placed we shall see smile. I'll order the heater relocation ashtray in due course too. After all, it's not like I am in a rush.

So, not only is the BMW getting closer to being sorted it is also now up-to-date and more convenient in another matter. Not to mention looking less 'poorly' installed, or on its way to being very decent inside.

helix402

7,875 posts

183 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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Looks like a satisfying solution.

SebringMan

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1,773 posts

187 months

Friday 9th February 2018
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helix402 said:
Looks like a satisfying solution.
It's taken a bit of a turn really. Basically, I found out it would not quite be the plug and play solution that I envisaged. I have found a solution but I'll say more once it is fitted.

SebringMan

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187 months

Sunday 18th February 2018
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The thread was left with things looking rosy regarding the installation of the Sony HU. However, it was not to be.

I first of all did what anyone else would and ordered an el cheapo fascia for less than £30. This unlike a few also has the correct step built into it so that the heater vent can fit correctly too unlike a few versions out there.

AX-100 install by Charlieboy, on Flickr

However, the ruler in that shot highlights a few issues that I'd contend with regarding fitting the HU into place.

Briefly they are down to:
1) The lack of factory mounting points for a simple Plug & Play Double DIN installation
2) The low rent quality of a number of Double DIN fascias
3) Compromised usability of the Sony HU with the commonly available fascia adaptors.

The solutions are:
1) Make/buy a cage to mount the HU into but it will also be compromised anyway due to the above
2) Get a left handed fascia adaptor which will potentially work with a modified factory cage once a bit of trimming has taken place. The volume knob will still be compromised however
3) Get the Enfig fascia adaptor. This is the closest thing to a Double DIN Plug & Play kit with the Sony AX100 headunit. It also is a great quality kit and it shows.

For those seeking detail let's get into a mammoth long post. Stay awake at the back of the classroom now:muttley:.

1) From the factory the Double DIN Sat Navs have a chassis/cage built into them so that they fit the car. As a result you don't have a means to secure an aftermarket Double DIN bar the Chinese E46 Sat-Nav copies or the Eonon/Dynavin etc. This is a problem any Double DIN user will have, irrespective of if they go with a shallow depth HU or heater cutting item.

This leaves you with a few choices

i) Make your own cage mounts up to secure the HU. This is possibly the cheapest option but it will get time consuming, and add a chunk of hassle. One way this could be done is to butcher the factory Single DIN/Heater control panel cage. To get it to mount centrally will involve butching the thing alot. It will also lose your means to go back to a factory installation in the future too short of buying another cage to fit into your car.
ii) Get a cage that bolts onto the factory bits take. The cage is also around £60 after delivery regardless of where you look. While it takes a chunk of fabrication out of the equation for something like the Alpine or Parrot shallow depth units it still potentially requires further fabrication.

https://incartec.co.uk/Pages/Product.aspx?P=3765



2)This fascia is not the best of quality and is primarily designed for HUs with button There is not much you can do about this but I'll come back to this point.

3)Because the Sony AX100 has a single DIN chassis that clears the heater box it introduces a new problem with the fascia which my previous photo alludes to. It can't sit flush with the fascia adaptor as its chassis rests on the heater box, removing any possibility of angling the HU to fit flush with the fascia. You're also left with a small gap between the HU and the bottom of the HU. You could file down to the recess towards the top of the fascia so that the HU sticks out slightly further. But then you'll always be left with another problem.

The volume knob will have no clearance on the left-hand side. Thus it will be tricky to adjust the volume with the HU unless you have steering wheel controls.

With this in mind I started trialing other options. What were the choices?

Solutions:
1) Offset the HU to one side.

AX-100 install by Charlieboy, on Flickr

IMO, with a left hand fascia adaptor this could work and you'd have room for the volume knob to work again. But the fascia kits aren't the best of quality still and depending on your preferences it does look strange with the HU stuck to one side of the aperture. Considering the look is part of the driving experience inside it's something you'll see all of the time. You can modify the factory Single DIN HU/heater panel cage a little to make this work and potentially do it cheaply. This is only my theory however:



2) Get the Enfig kit specific to this headunit.

This is the most plug and play installation you'll get. Cheap however it isn't. I paid £80 to get the HU delivered to this country and Parcelforce robbed me for a further £24. Ouch! £12 of that was VAT and the rest was their 'handling fee'. Yeah, right.

This is a similar price to getting the fascia adaptor and Double DIN cage above. This fascia kit was almost a bargain if the heater relocation panel wasn't left-hand-drive specific. But it's time to install it. The first thing that struck me upon opening the kit was the quality of everything. It's something Enfig don't really show and the pictures don't do it justice. It has that rubberised coating feel and it all feels well made. It is a step up from other adaptors I have seen on the market for a long time. Not just the E46 but others in generall too.

https://enfigcarstereo.com/ENFIG_RMK_E46_XAV1.html

Sony XAV-AX100 installation by Charlieboy, on Flickr

On the bench the Double DIN cage is easy to assemble with the handed plates being an interference fit into the back of the main frame, requiring two screws to keep them in place.

Sony XAV-AX100 installation by Charlieboy, on Flickr

Sony XAV-AX100 installation by Charlieboy, on Flickr

Once everything is mounted onto the cage and the HU connected up the whole lot can be bolted into the car. Note the use of the factory screw locations.

Sony XAV-AX100 installation by Charlieboy, on Flickr

All that is left to do is put the heater vents in on top of the Double DIN chassis as per the factory way and then screw/clip the fascia plate itself into position.

Sony XAV-AX100 installation by Charlieboy, on Flickr

Sony XAV-AX100 installation by Charlieboy, on Flickr

There is of course one catch left. The heater panel relocation. The part supplied by Enfig will not fit our cars due to it being a left-hand-drive part

Sony XAV-AX100 installation by Charlieboy, on Flickr

What this means is Ms. Merkel had been meddling things for us long before Brexit! Basically, the heater panel curves differently. It' curves into a tighter line on the driver's side for each country. For people who drive on the right side of the road on the left (see what I did there?), it curves in tighter towards the bottom on the right. For people who drive on the wrong side it curves into the left. You can guess which side this panel curves into! But it is not the end of the world.

You can either buy this panel with an ashtray from BMW or without like the one above. You can also modify the original panel to accept the heater control unit (HCU) Basically you cut in two slots into the panel where the clips are on the bottom of the HCU. You will have a 3mm gap however between the HU and the switch panel once it is installed but it is one way to save cash here. Given how tired these panels get in E46s it is probably worth sourcing a new item.

And that is it! Besides mounting the microphone in a desired location like the steering column panel or up on the windscreen the job is done! And doesn't it look good and give you much improved usability? If you don't like Apple Maps Sony do sell a Sat-Nav module to plug into this HU for £180. It uses TomTom maps.

For the Android users this HU does also do Android Auto. I have yet to try that since my phone is obviously fruit based. I've got to get one of my 5-a-day y'no!

All in, this is another solution out there for people considering a Double DIN installation without alot of fabrication and with a good chunk of flexibility regarding the head unit.

That's all for now folks!

SebringMan

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1,773 posts

187 months

Monday 5th March 2018
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It's fair to say the poor M3 is probably feeling a little left out! Besides whacking onto a CTEK now and again the car doesn't really do much! With that in mind it was time to finish off the installation.

For this

E46 M3 Sony Apple CarPlay final by Charlieboy, on Flickr

With the two instrument panels side by side it was time to assemble the HVAC relocation panel. This was done by transferring over the switch panel, cigar lighter and the ashtray: With that done it was time to say gooybye to the old tired instrument panel. With the scratches, you begin to wonder if the last person had claws!

E46 M3 Sony Apple CarPlay final by Charlieboy, on Flickr

But that is focusing on the past. With it all assembled I then fitted and connected up the new (HVAC relocation) instrument panel. I have debated changing this panel for a long time but was unsure of if I would commit to fitting a Double DIN. But when you look at the final result and what has been done it's a massive improvement from what was there.

E46 M3 Sony Apple CarPlay final by Charlieboy, on Flickr

The new problem? I fancy sorting out a few other plastics inside that are letting the car down! For a 15 year old M3 it's actually quite good inside but it can always be better! Do I buy replacement bits for the only parts affected or do I go all out and paint them? I'm thinking Gloss Black or even the factory Carbon Black. But we shall see what happens here.

Another thing? I really need to drive this again. I suspect I will be soon now that we've had the worst of the snow, salt and other nasties given to us.

custardkid

2,514 posts

225 months

Tuesday 13th March 2018
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Looks almost OEM

Would be useful if you could summarise a 'parts list' and where to get them from
smile

SebringMan

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1,773 posts

187 months

Tuesday 27th March 2018
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custardkid said:
Looks almost OEM

Would be useful if you could summarise a 'parts list' and where to get them from
smile
Cheers! It certainly compliments the interior. As for the parts, this does vary, depending on if your car came with a Single DIN from the factory or a Double DIN. Believe it or not, this install is potentially easier with a Single DIN factory headunit!

So, assuming you have a Single DIN like I did.

-Enfig XAV-AX100 installation kit. This is the Metra kit for the larger double DINs but it's missing the heater box cut out; you don't need it with the AX-100 HU

https://enfigcarstereo.com/ENFIG_RMK_E46_XAV1.html

Please note, the heater relocation panel they supply will not fit UK cars, it is a left hand instrument panel. You could ask them if they could supply one, but BMW do sell them

-InCarTec Harness Adaptor or Connects II. I went to InCarTec as I wanted an RCA output to be utilised for my stock HK system; others have used the normal 'speaker' harness. Which one you pick from either brand depends on if you want your steering controls or not

This was one of the few things I recycled from my single DIN install when I had the Alpine

Here, I list three choices.

https://incartec.co.uk/Pages/Product.aspx?P=4606 HK loom with Steering controls

https://incartec.co.uk/Pages/Product.aspx?P=2531 Non-HK harness with Steering controls.

https://incartec.co.uk/Pages/Product.aspx?P=2565 Basic non-HK loom with no steering controls; if you want to ease installation and save the cash

-Patch lead to work with the above; this is for where you want to keep your steering controls. This will vary depending on the HU you choose. I'll put down a Sony one since it's what I used.

https://incartec.co.uk/Pages/Product.aspx?P=2643

-Antenna adaptor; Fakra to DIN conversion, what normal headunits take

https://incartec.co.uk/Pages/Product.aspx?P=2800


-Headunit. This depends on what you want. If you don't want to chop the dash up behind and compromise your heater vents your choices are limited. I went with the Sony as it was reasably priced and it is one of the few headunits that can do Android Auto or Apple CarPlay. It's also the only headunit which can do either phone but also have rotary volume knob.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-XAV-AX100-Receiver-B...

So for the above you have everything needed to install the headunit. The only problem is your heater panel will need a new home. I went to BMW and ordered a Sat-Nav relocation panel. I did debate going secondhand here but all of them were tatty, they are rare to come by too, and they're not much cheaper than a dealer part unless you want a very worn/scratched up item:

51167001409 - Non Smoker Relocation Panel
51167001411 - Smoker relocation Panel

Both will fit. For some reason the 411 item is over £100! The only difference is the ashtray design; your old cigar tray will fit but you will lose the light to illuminate it. Transferring the parts over from your old ashtray isn't too hard either.

SebringMan

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187 months

Thursday 29th March 2018
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It's fair to say the car hasn't been the cheapest thing to run, and to be honest thoughts of selling did crop into my head. They often do when faced with expenditure. Why? I fancied changing the big-end bearings.

But why did I want to do that? That is pretty simple really. The way I see it, two things can finish off an M3, well, write one off:

1) A boot floor cracked badly enough to warrant a new RACP; About £5k no matter where you go
2) The Rod Bearings; If these go and the crank is marked/scored there is a question mark over whether the crankshaft can be saved; They are tuftrided from the factory and it is said generally reground cranks aren't as strong as original items. A shame as a new crank is over £2k from BMW, and even the S54 engines are £3k secondhand! That is before fitting!

Yes, head gaskets, VANOS & SMG pumps can go, but generally, the expense is much smaller and easier to spot without generally writing the car off. In those cases, cheaper and potentially longer lasting solutions have been found too in the case of the VANOS & SMG gubbins.

With that in mind I dropped the car off to Autobahn in Halesowen.



Given that Rob was known to colleagues of mine in addition to him racing E46 M3s I figured the car would be in safe hands.

All was going well! I dropped the car off on a Saturday, and then went to the Restoration show at the NEC. That was until Tuesday. I had a phonecall to say that one of my rod bearing bolts was being stubborn.

It was fair to say that I was slightly anxious at this point! But how would it all go? Would this really be a big stalling point?

Wilksy288

102 posts

109 months

Thursday 29th March 2018
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Awesome thread and makes me want to get one even more. But cliffhanger! haha i hope it goes ok.

helix402

7,875 posts

183 months

Thursday 29th March 2018
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And?............... We need an update!

e30m3Mark

16,205 posts

174 months

Thursday 29th March 2018
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I always enjoy seeing / reading about properly maintained M3's. I still hope to own an E46 version someday but good ones are getting tough to find and expensive when you do.

Any plans for it?

SebringMan

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Thursday 29th March 2018
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helix402 said:
And?............... We need an update!
Patience but you seem to be like many a PHer like me :P.

I'll be honest, I wanted the phone to ring ASAP with good news after that!

So there I was, sat at work worrying about the engine. I was hoping that welding a bolt onto the bolt would free it. In short, it did! My relief, however, did not come until I came back home and I had a text stating the car was ready to be picked up! Without hesitating, I arranged some transport at short notice and got down to Autobahn. There Rob talked me through what he had done. Then he showed me partly what I wanted to know; the state of the bearings that came out. With 138k on the clock were they beyond gone? The answer?

Rod Bearings by Charlieboy, on Flickr

One was(ish) on the limit but the rest were not too terrible. A few were scuffed as you can tell. But compared to others I have seen removed with less mileage mine were in a pretty decent state! Some would argue I should have left them in! But at least I have the confidence to drive my M3 as intended smile.

Maybe this maintenance has had the wrong effect on me. Only time will tell, however.

e30m3Mark said:
I always enjoy seeing/reading about properly maintained M3's. I still hope to own an E46 version someday but good ones are getting tough to find and expensive when you do.

Any plans for it?
I'll be honest. I almost sacked off the search for an M3 for what I was willing to spend. I did hit a point where I thought "Why have I done this" and like the Pet Shop Boys wonder what had I done to deserve this. But it comes part and parcel no doubt. It's also the most complete package I've had from a car with plenty of fun smile.

My plans? That depends on what you mean. Prior to the rod bearing change, I did debate selling it again. But I've had a few painful lessons along the way. I partly sold my 944 for financial reasons; it did want front discs @£180 each thanks to them being Big Blacks, and a minor amount of bodywork. I've probably spent that on cars after it anyway which negates all of those points. Like most, I see the short term at times, however.

My plans are all over the place. The Sony HU was a moment of weakness but it really has made the car easier to live with, like the CSL SMG update, the cupholders and the aforementioned Sony HU. A trip in this car is fun but it feels like 2 hours in comparison to the 4 hours you took! The Spain trip really helped me trust the car alot more and truly enjoy it for what it is.

My plans are to tidy the remaining parts and maintain it. Some will be pricey like the wings; they're bubbling again. If I have any spare cash other bits will come. Those would include things like a CSL airbox and brakes. Wheels would be an interesting one; I continuously flirtate with the idea of CSL copies in 18" guise, but there is something about the stock items. If I were really pushing the boat out, some recliner Recaro PP style seats would be spot on smile. I've seen it with a Grey interior before and it really does work! But of course, it is always down to what one is willing to spend.

Spa may well be on the cards now, as well as Bedford Autodrome for track trips.

Edited by SebringMan on Thursday 29th March 22:49

SebringMan

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187 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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So, the E46 M3. Hailed as a modern classic in the making, combining old school thrills with newer technology to making one tempting package for many! Combined with its excellent practicality this can be a gift and a curse? How I hear you ask? Let me explain.

M3 Wheels by Charlieboy, on Flickr

It's funny. There you are sticking to your guns about being sensible about your spend on your car. Yet somehow you go all weak and succomb to that 'For sale' sign? Who was that mug? Yours truly.

There I was at the Wonderful Bicester Heritage this weekend enjoying the sights at the Sunday Scramble. The only budget I bargained for that day was for buying overpriced coffees and meals. This would soon change upon stepping into the wonderful Historit Building, and boy, was it a great place to see what they do, even if everything was under covers! It's lovely seeing a number of F40s etc. under the covers, even if one or two of them had the odd flat tyre!



So what caught my attention there? That's easy. A set of E46 M3 wheels but in 18" guise, asking to look for a bloke called Ferg. Well, I did that and saw the wheels! Before I knew it I was haggling said Ferg hard! Before I knew it, I agreed a deal for a set of wheels with money I didn't really have and with wheels I don't really have a use for!

M3 Wheels by Charlieboy, on Flickr

M3 Wheels by Charlieboy, on Flickr

But check out that dish!

M3 Wheels by Charlieboy, on Flickr

Here is a rough mockup of them on the car. I do think I like the look! It' strange as for ages I wanted the 19s over these:

M3 Wheels by Charlieboy, on Flickr

But then people do say M3s do handle best on 18s with much improved ride comfort. Of course, there is only one way for me to find out. Drive the car.

But which looks best to you folks? The 18s that earlier M3s came with or what became the factory fit 19s as on my car now?

M3 Wheels by Charlieboy, on Flickr
M3 Wheels by Charlieboy, on Flickr

So do I have a plan for those 18s? In short, yes wink.

I plan to drive about of them briefly over the summer to see if they are for me. Seeing as my 19s are on fresh Michelin Pilot Sport 4S and 4s I am expecting a drop in grip. However, you never know, I may well stick with these and with time change the tyres. They can always become a set of rims for track tyres like the Federal 595RSR or AD08R. But of course, I may just think the 19s are worth sticking with! We shall see.

Talk me out of the madness!

JakeT

5,438 posts

121 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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Much prefer the 18 inch wheels. They don't get lacquer issues like the diamond cut 19 inch ones do, I would imaging they are lighter, and allow for more compliance on British (read: shocking) roads. I also prefer the look of them. The dish is cooler.

shalmaneser

5,936 posts

196 months

Thursday 26th April 2018
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I always thought that the E46 needs to 19" rims but recently I reckon they look a bit blingy, especially with the rather small standard discs behind them.

18's look much smarter and the extra tyre makes the M3 look tougher somehow?

Definitely need spacers front and rear to push them out a touch tho.