Knackered old Porsche with loads of miles - 996 content

[B'stard Child]

Mr Tidy said:

Megaflow said:

I wouldn't have thought they were anymore likely to come undo than wheel bolts, which incidentally I think are the stupidest thing ever.

I realise it's off-topic, but wheel bolts really are a PITA!

I've had BMWs for the last 15 years or so and fit winter tyres each year and every time I swap wheels I get reminded how crap they are.

That was one benefit of old Fords.

BMW wheel bolts are 12 x 1.5

Buy a long shanked bolt in that thread size and cut the hex head off and either cut a slot in the non threaded end or grind a hex head onto it

Turn the hub to get one hole at the top - screw in the bolt place wheel over the bolt fit the other 4 wheel bolts before removing the placement bolt

Makes life really easy and it fits inside the tool kit

[Filibuster]

B'stard Child said:

Mr Tidy said:

Megaflow said:

I wouldn't have thought they were anymore likely to come undo than wheel bolts, which incidentally I think are the stupidest thing ever.

I realise it's off-topic, but wheel bolts really are a PITA!

I've had BMWs for the last 15 years or so and fit winter tyres each year and every time I swap wheels I get reminded how cr*p they are.

That was one benefit of old Fords.

BMW wheel bolts are 12 x 1.5

Buy a long shanked bolt in that thread size and cut the hex head off and either cut a slot in the non threaded end or grind a hex head onto it

Turn the hub to get one hole at the top - screw in the bolt place wheel over the bolt fit the other 4 wheel bolts before removing the placement bolt

Makes life really easy and it fits inside the tool kit

Thanks for reminding me to buy some guide bolts this year!
Changing to winter tyres/wheels each year I know the pita, especially with those heavy and large 305 section summer wheels .....

Porsche recommends using one and even insists you use two per wheel if you have ceramic brakes (997).

I just bought these two off ebay:

[ferrisbueller]

B'stard Child said:

Mr Tidy said:

Megaflow said:

I wouldn't have thought they were anymore likely to come undo than wheel bolts, which incidentally I think are the stupidest thing ever.

I realise it's off-topic, but wheel bolts really are a PITA!

I've had BMWs for the last 15 years or so and fit winter tyres each year and every time I swap wheels I get reminded how cr*p they are.

That was one benefit of old Fords.

BMW wheel bolts are 12 x 1.5

Buy a long shanked bolt in that thread size and cut the hex head off and either cut a slot in the non threaded end or grind a hex head onto it

Turn the hub to get one hole at the top - screw in the bolt place wheel over the bolt fit the other 4 wheel bolts before removing the placement bolt

Makes life really easy and it fits inside the tool kit

You can buy ready made tools for about a fiver.

[tr7v8]

Filibuster said:

Thanks for reminding me to buy some guide bolts this year!
Changing to winter tyres/wheels each year I know the pita, especially with those heavy and large 305 section summer wheels .....

Porsche recommends using one and even insists you use two per wheel if you have ceramic brakes (997).

I just bought these two off ebay:

Mine came with one in the tool kit (Cayenne 955)

[B'stard Child]

ferrisbueller said:

B'stard Child said:

Mr Tidy said:

Megaflow said:

I wouldn't have thought they were anymore likely to come undo than wheel bolts, which incidentally I think are the stupidest thing ever.

I realise it's off-topic, but wheel bolts really are a PITA!

I've had BMWs for the last 15 years or so and fit winter tyres each year and every time I swap wheels I get reminded how cr*p they are.

That was one benefit of old Fords.

BMW wheel bolts are 12 x 1.5

Buy a long shanked bolt in that thread size and cut the hex head off and either cut a slot in the non threaded end or grind a hex head onto it

Turn the hub to get one hole at the top - screw in the bolt place wheel over the bolt fit the other 4 wheel bolts before removing the placement bolt

Makes life really easy and it fits inside the tool kit

You can buy ready made tools for about a fiver.

Where the heck is the fun in that - plus when I made one 30 years ago no amount of searching found me one

[zestyfesty]

I'm only at page 18 but this is the best thread I've ever read on PH! What a fabulous car and story PPBB. So refreshing to see a car being used heavily, modified for a specific purpose. So evocative. Concerned this may drive up prices of early 996s given the educational value of your contributions.

[Zarco]

Filibuster said:

Thanks for reminding me to buy some guide bolts this year!
Changing to winter tyres/wheels each year I know the pita, especially with those heavy and large 305 section summer wheels .....

Porsche recommends using one and even insists you use two per wheel if you have ceramic brakes (997).

I just bought these two off ebay:

I'm getting some of these. Had no idea such a thing existed. Thought we all just struggled!

[Paynewright]

Zarco - there should be one in your tool kit. Its alloy - I’d get a steel one if I planned doing lots of wheel changes!

[eltax91]

zestyfesty said:

I'm only at page 18 but this is the best thread I've ever read on PH! What a fabulous car and story PPBB. So refreshing to see a car being used heavily, modified for a specific purpose. So evocative. Concerned this may drive up prices of early 996s given the educational value of your contributions.

I’m not concerned. I’ve got one (thanks principally to this thread!£

[Hugo Stiglitz]

Whats the current mileage

[PushedDover]

Filibuster said:

Thanks for reminding me to buy some guide bolts this year!
Changing to winter tyres/wheels each year I know the pita, especially with those heavy and large 305 section summer wheels .....

Porsche recommends using one and even insists you use two per wheel if you have ceramic brakes (997).

I just bought these two off ebay:

Linky??

[Filibuster]

PushedDover said:

Filibuster said:

Thanks for reminding me to buy some guide bolts this year!
Changing to winter tyres/wheels each year I know the pita, especially with those heavy and large 305 section summer wheels .....

Porsche recommends using one and even insists you use two per wheel if you have ceramic brakes (997).

I just bought these two off ebay:

Linky??

I bought them on ebay Germany:

https://www.ebay.de/itm/2x-Radmontagehilfe-M14x1-5...

They arrived just two days later (here in Switzerland) and are of very good quality, although I have yet to try them out.
Just search for "wheel alignment fitting tool" or something along these lines.

Porsche 9x6/7 have M14x1.5 bolts.

[snotrag]

Every car I've ever had that uses wheel bolts rather than studs (Porsche, Mercedes, Citroen, Vauxhall) had a guide pin or guide stud like that in the tool kit I think.

Particularly on my E-class, the wheels are so bloody heavy it really is needed. I cannot imagine what it must be like doing it on a big SUV wheel (22" Cayenne Turbo wheel and tyre anyone!?)

[tr7v8]

snotrag said:

Every car I've ever had that uses wheel bolts rather than studs (Porsche, Mercedes, Citroen, Vauxhall) had a guide pin or guide stud like that in the tool kit I think.

Particularly on my E-class, the wheels are so bloody heavy it really is needed. I cannot imagine what it must be like doing it on a big SUV wheel (22" Cayenne Turbo wheel and tyre anyone!?)

Even my 19" on the Cayenne are bloody heavy. I'd guess 30kg or so. I end up knackered after swapping winters or summers over twice a year. I have one alloy pin in the toolkit but worth getting two.

[Jonmx]

tr7v8 said:

snotrag said:

Every car I've ever had that uses wheel bolts rather than studs (Porsche, Mercedes, Citroen, Vauxhall) had a guide pin or guide stud like that in the tool kit I think.

Particularly on my E-class, the wheels are so bloody heavy it really is needed. I cannot imagine what it must be like doing it on a big SUV wheel (22" Cayenne Turbo wheel and tyre anyone!?)

Even my 19" on the Cayenne are bloody heavy. I'd guess 30kg or so. I end up knackered after swapping winters or summers over twice a year. I have one alloy pin in the toolkit but worth getting two.

Stud conversion kits are a thing. Whilst I'd be confident running a kit on a run around kind of vehicle (not the knackered old daily in this thread....) I'm not sure how confident I'd be in running it in anything with a fair bit of power. The Japanese have definitely got it right with wheel nuts, but even then you have 1.25 thread on some manufacturers and 1.5 on others.

[Jimmy Recard]

Jonmx said:

Stud conversion kits are a thing. Whilst I'd be confident running a kit on a run around kind of vehicle (not the knackered old daily in this thread....) I'm not sure how confident I'd be in running it in anything with a fair bit of power. The Japanese have definitely got it right with wheel nuts, but even then you have 1.25 thread on some manufacturers and 1.5 on others.

The power shouldn't make a difference. The studs/bolts don't transfer the power. It's transferred through the faces that they clamp, like a clutch

[PushedDover]

snotrag said:

Every car I've ever had that uses wheel bolts rather than studs (Porsche, Mercedes, Citroen, Vauxhall) had a guide pin or guide stud like that in the tool kit I think.

Particularly on my E-class, the wheels are so bloody heavy it really is needed. I cannot imagine what it must be like doing it on a big SUV wheel (22" Cayenne Turbo wheel and tyre anyone!?)

I only mention it as we did my mates 718 at the weekend with heavy 20"rims.... they would have helped

[JakeT]

snotrag said:

Every car I've ever had that uses wheel bolts rather than studs (Porsche, Mercedes, Citroen, Vauxhall) had a guide pin or guide stud like that in the tool kit I think.

Particularly on my E-class, the wheels are so bloody heavy it really is needed. I cannot imagine what it must be like doing it on a big SUV wheel (22" Cayenne Turbo wheel and tyre anyone!?)

Dealers will now have wheel lifting apparatus, also because carbon ceramic discs can be chipped when removing wheels which is big money to replace. I'm sure they don't want techs lifting silly heavy wheels all day.


Old BMWs used to come with a wheel guide in the toolkit, too. After some practice it's not awfully difficult to get them on straight enough.

[alpgta]

Or the unusual approach that Alpine took with the GTA of having 1 stud and 3 bolts.

[vaud]

poppopbangbang said:

It has done at various points but not necessarily for F1 related bits. I'm retired from F1 now so the Porsche has become much more about my enjoyment of it over the past few months than needing to be a working car..... working as in for a living not operational

Poppopbangbang,

Apologies for crashing the thread... I tried to PM you but it wouldn't work.

With your knowledge of F1 historic machinery there was a debate on this thread in light of the F1 accident at the weekend

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

About when F1 cars stopped having air bottles for the drivers - and if they were used (and did you used to restore them or were they just for regs)

I saw it and thought of you.

Many thanks and apologies for thread diversion. Nice Porsche (love the 996)