The one and only 2016 VW Polo Gti 6C
Discussion
HustleRussell said:
OP also appears to be one of those who confuses trackdays with racing / competition... sees who he can 'beat' and then scuttles home to upload the evidence and make self congratulatory comments on the Internet.
If you watched the videos you would see I'm not the one with racing behaviour!I'm simply proud because I have not been able to do trackdays in years and in a relatively short time I have managed to get my driving to a reasonable standard with no instruction/help or mummy and daddy's money.
Not because I'm treating it like a race. I'm sure you can understand that.
Edited by JoeMarano on Monday 17th October 20:52
Maty said:
I think you might have turned it into a ''touchy subject' all on your own.
Can't you just be happy that the Polo GTi is a fantastic car and given how rare they are bask in your own self glory that no one else realises?
Honestly I dont think anyone cares that you can get your car to 60 1/2 a second quicker than VW can or that it's just as good as its competition.
FYI the Octavia VRS is much better and it's got a proper boot and it costs significantly less, I know because I bought one
What the car that's 8 grand more expensive than the Polo and more competition for the Golf? lolCan't you just be happy that the Polo GTi is a fantastic car and given how rare they are bask in your own self glory that no one else realises?
Honestly I dont think anyone cares that you can get your car to 60 1/2 a second quicker than VW can or that it's just as good as its competition.
FYI the Octavia VRS is much better and it's got a proper boot and it costs significantly less, I know because I bought one
I saw a Polo GTI today, and as I glanced over I was already imagining the owner arguing over .2 of a second and pointing out in every aspect of how the car is somehow superior to everything else.....like some kind of demented game of top trumps!
So well done, you've singlehandedly tarnished Polo GTI's for me.
So well done, you've singlehandedly tarnished Polo GTI's for me.
Is that the 300 configuration? I spy at least one shot that's identical placement of the photographer!
CH_160505_SN_Cars_1472 by Simon Cox, on Flickr
Nice cars these, but i do share the sentiment of dull, but most modern hatches are dull identikit platform cars unless a manufacturer has gone utterly bonkers - certainly with Revo upgrades (pricey intercooler, remap, exhaust etc) they're a solid performer but with the price difference once fitted a GTI is a better investment to begin with. Regarding the GTI being slower i'd like to see back to back runs with the same driver in each car (best of three) as there really is no more control in that test than 18yr olds racing Corsas outside McDonalds!
That being said it's all to a budget and clearly yours is fulfilled with the Polo. Having bought BBK many times in the past i've come to the conclusion that the reason my brakes fade in the most parts is primarily because of the lack of consistent cooling.
Before you splash out and get them for your Polo i'd suggest playing with some ducting to behind the disc from the front grille. Worked wonders on my Ford Focus RS Mk2 i had before the Evora - and planning on recreating on the Evora too (or buying a set of GT4 ducts). Also reducing your unsprung mass whilst paring it with some hefty rubber works wonders... Have a look at Team Dynamics Pro Race, or a set of lightweight forged wheels with R888 on them if you're serious about the track days. Plus side for you is that can carry all your own stuff to the track and back!
CH_160505_SN_Cars_1472 by Simon Cox, on Flickr
Nice cars these, but i do share the sentiment of dull, but most modern hatches are dull identikit platform cars unless a manufacturer has gone utterly bonkers - certainly with Revo upgrades (pricey intercooler, remap, exhaust etc) they're a solid performer but with the price difference once fitted a GTI is a better investment to begin with. Regarding the GTI being slower i'd like to see back to back runs with the same driver in each car (best of three) as there really is no more control in that test than 18yr olds racing Corsas outside McDonalds!
That being said it's all to a budget and clearly yours is fulfilled with the Polo. Having bought BBK many times in the past i've come to the conclusion that the reason my brakes fade in the most parts is primarily because of the lack of consistent cooling.
Before you splash out and get them for your Polo i'd suggest playing with some ducting to behind the disc from the front grille. Worked wonders on my Ford Focus RS Mk2 i had before the Evora - and planning on recreating on the Evora too (or buying a set of GT4 ducts). Also reducing your unsprung mass whilst paring it with some hefty rubber works wonders... Have a look at Team Dynamics Pro Race, or a set of lightweight forged wheels with R888 on them if you're serious about the track days. Plus side for you is that can carry all your own stuff to the track and back!
Edited by Hedgehogfromhell on Monday 17th October 22:13
Yep 300 Circuit! Just timed a 2:29 lap in the videos somewhere using rough marker points and I'd like to get that down to 2:20ish (around the same sort of area as my mates 435bhp ep3)
Yeah the Gti (if PP) is probably a better starting point but then you could argue an R is and so on and so on.
If I'm doing more track days (in my own car) then I think the biggest shout is wheels and tyres like you say and I think an LSD (if they even do them yet) would work wonders!
Nice Evora! That was my car of choice in forza for years!
Tried (and failed) to stay with a red one! Though traffic helped him out lol
Yeah the Gti (if PP) is probably a better starting point but then you could argue an R is and so on and so on.
If I'm doing more track days (in my own car) then I think the biggest shout is wheels and tyres like you say and I think an LSD (if they even do them yet) would work wonders!
Nice Evora! That was my car of choice in forza for years!
Tried (and failed) to stay with a red one! Though traffic helped him out lolJoeMarano said:
Yep 300 Circuit! Just timed a 2:29 lap in the videos somewhere using rough marker points and I'd like to get that down to 2:20ish (around the same sort of area as my mates 435bhp ep3)
Yeah the Gti (if PP) is probably a better starting point but then you could argue an R is and so on and so on.
If I'm doing more track days (in my own car) then I think the biggest shout is wheels and tyres like you say and I think an LSD (if they even do them yet) would work wonders!
Nice Evora! That was my car of choice in forza for years! Tried (and failed) to stay with a red one! Though traffic helped him out lol
And the fact the chassis is like something alien Yeah the Gti (if PP) is probably a better starting point but then you could argue an R is and so on and so on.
If I'm doing more track days (in my own car) then I think the biggest shout is wheels and tyres like you say and I think an LSD (if they even do them yet) would work wonders!
Nice Evora! That was my car of choice in forza for years!
Tried (and failed) to stay with a red one! Though traffic helped him out lol
....It grips far longer and allows you to put in the power far earlier than i have the balls to run it to currently! Although i did better on Silverstone GP.... Every trackday helps As i mentioned in the FWD RWD, LSD thread in General Gassing... I've run open diff and Quaife on tracks in two FWD Hot Hatches before and tbh didn't really find much to shout about difference wise. Hopefully you have a different experience.
What power is this running at and what are your plans medium term then?
Edited by Hedgehogfromhell on Monday 17th October 22:18
Oh okay. All the current "super hatches" have LSD's as well as some of the superminis (208 30th, corsa vxr PP) so assumed they are sort of a requirement. I do struggle in some 2nd gear corners to get the power down (mainly in the wet to be honest)
Standard power at the minute which is 189 bhp (book figures) but they seem to dyno at 200-215bhp
Torque is book figure of 236/lb/ft which seems to be about spot on on the dyno.
I'm thinking of Pilot Sport Cup 2 in 215/45/17
(Standard is potenza s001 in 215/40/17)
Standard power at the minute which is 189 bhp (book figures) but they seem to dyno at 200-215bhp
Torque is book figure of 236/lb/ft which seems to be about spot on on the dyno.
I'm thinking of Pilot Sport Cup 2 in 215/45/17
(Standard is potenza s001 in 215/40/17)
JoeMarano said:
I do struggle in some 2nd gear corners to get the power down (mainly in the wet to be honest)
One gear up, let the turbo do the work of feeding in the power and ride the lightning through. Alternatively feed the power slower... Worked a treat in the Astra VXR (and the Focus RS which behaved weirdly in the wet), but did require a slightly higher entry and mid corner speed than you'd normally go for (except in the wet where lower speeds dictated the fact). At that point geometry, tyres, wheels, steering/throttle input and your position on track really come into play to counter the understeer to ride on through. Wet weather is the bane of every FWD car. One gear up and/or gentle application of the throttle to feed in the power of a lower gear was always my go to solution for track work.
TBH its not much better in a RWD car... Especially MR, where the back end wants to swing.
Edited by Hedgehogfromhell on Monday 17th October 22:30
Rise above the keyboard warriors in a bid to prove there wit and exhibit themselves as king of the one liners to peeps they don't know.
Plenty of R soles on here who like to nit pick, personally i like cars, I also like to read about them and as such this is something different than the masses.
One point though - Regarding Nicole's finest Clio 172 , i suppose its aided by its ridiculously low purchase price . Have seen ropey ones for under £900 these days. Hence the popularity.
Lets all get along.
Col.
Plenty of R soles on here who like to nit pick, personally i like cars, I also like to read about them and as such this is something different than the masses.
One point though - Regarding Nicole's finest Clio 172 , i suppose its aided by its ridiculously low purchase price . Have seen ropey ones for under £900 these days. Hence the popularity.
Lets all get along.
Col.
You can see in all the videos I experimented with 2nd and 3rd gear. Second seemed to work best unless it was wet. It's geared quite long which is why I can get caught out by slower cars with shorter gearing but keep up with some of the faster cars if I'm in the right gear (it's a weird one)
colinevan said:
Rise above the keyboard warriors in a bid to prove there wit and exhibit themselves as king of the one liners to peeps they don't know.
Plenty of R soles on here who like to nit pick, personally i like cars, I also like to read about them and as such this is something different than the masses.
One point though - Regarding Nicole's finest Clio 172 , i suppose its aided by its ridiculously low purchase price . Have seen ropey ones for under £900 these days. Hence the popularity.
Lets all get along.
Col.
I sold my decent one for £700!Plenty of R soles on here who like to nit pick, personally i like cars, I also like to read about them and as such this is something different than the masses.
One point though - Regarding Nicole's finest Clio 172 , i suppose its aided by its ridiculously low purchase price . Have seen ropey ones for under £900 these days. Hence the popularity.
Lets all get along.
Col.
JoeMarano said:
You can see in all the videos I experimented with 2nd and 3rd gear. Second seemed to work best unless it was wet. It's geared quite long which is why I can get caught out by slower cars with shorter gearing but keep up with some of the faster cars if I'm in the right gear (it's a weird one)
If it's too long in the leg, don't put taller tyres on it as you are proposing as you'll make it worse.Last video uploaded.
Stuck behind a BMW Compact that doesn't want to let me past so he keeps effing up in an attempt to stay in front
https://youtu.be/5YMy44C6Vuk
Stuck behind a BMW Compact that doesn't want to let me past so he keeps effing up in an attempt to stay in front
https://youtu.be/5YMy44C6Vuk
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