The one and only 2016 VW Polo Gti 6C

The one and only 2016 VW Polo Gti 6C

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tonyb1968

1,156 posts

146 months

Tuesday 18th October 2016
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JoeMarano said:
They only do a 45 profile in the Cup 2's. Think they do a 40 in supersports or PS3

My mate keeps telling me to get Federal semi slicks.
I don't think i would choose the Cup 2's or the 595's if you want to use the tyres on the car all year round, the PS4's are a good compromise and are an improvement on the PS3's (which seem to wear extremely quickly frown ) and don't change the size unless you change the wheel size as it will add to your speedo and could give you less accurate readings.

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

103 months

Tuesday 18th October 2016
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I can see why you call the thread 'the one and only' it seems like the best car there is available. I am amazed that everyone doesn't own one!

JoeMarano

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1,042 posts

100 months

Tuesday 18th October 2016
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Maybe you could compose the soundtrack for it?

MuZiZZle

680 posts

190 months

Tuesday 18th October 2016
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johnwilliams77 said:
I can see why you call the thread 'the one and only' it seems like the best car there is available. I am amazed that everyone doesn't own one!
My nan has one.

J4CKO

41,562 posts

200 months

Tuesday 18th October 2016
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johnwilliams77 said:
I can see why you call the thread 'the one and only' it seems like the best car there is available. I am amazed that everyone doesn't own one!
They all have Fiesta ST's, thats what happens when something always wins all the group tests and is cheaper to buy, nothing wrong with the Polo but its an expensive also ran.

Biker's Nemesis

38,658 posts

208 months

Tuesday 18th October 2016
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JoeMarano said:
Maybe you could compose the soundtrack for it?
Chesney Hawkes.

JoeMarano

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100 months

Tuesday 18th October 2016
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The Clio 200 cup and Megane won all their group tests but they didn't actually sell too many of them. So it's purely based on the public and Ford has a good image in the UK.

Car magazine had this to say about the Ibiza Cupra (identical mechanically to the Polo Gti)

"Fiesta ST for outright thrills, this for everything else"

Edited by JoeMarano on Tuesday 18th October 13:00

Hitch

6,106 posts

194 months

Tuesday 18th October 2016
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Does it being mechanically identical not then mean that your car is no longer the one and only?

JoeMarano

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1,042 posts

100 months

Tuesday 18th October 2016
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Do you always have your thoughts hard wired to a keyboard?

_dobbo_

14,379 posts

248 months

Tuesday 18th October 2016
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"I'm not going to get into an argument about the car."

argues relentlessly about the car

"Good job I give exactly no fks to anything you say then isn't it?"

threatens to have thread deleted.

JoeMarano said:
Do you always have your thoughts hard wired to a keyboard?
Irony-ception.


SirSquidalot

4,042 posts

165 months

Tuesday 18th October 2016
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This thread just keeps on giving! laugh


Biker's Nemesis

38,658 posts

208 months

Tuesday 18th October 2016
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Comeon guys, leave him alone.

All he is doing is posting about his own car, he has also posted links to his own channel so he isn't a faceless troll.

Some of the posters on here need to take a good hard look at themselves.

JoeMarano

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1,042 posts

100 months

Tuesday 18th October 2016
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I've just looked into the Javelin Sprint series and am thinking of getting a standard saxo/clio etc to compete with in production class next year. Anyone here know anyone that's clued up with it?

Just chatting to an R32 GTR owner that was running around 400 bhp with ohlins suspension cup 2 tyres etc that I managed to keep behind me for a while on youtube.

Feels good knowing I had half the HP and standard everything lol

Edited by JoeMarano on Tuesday 18th October 15:59

Hedgehogfromhell

2,072 posts

179 months

Tuesday 18th October 2016
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From the Regulations off their Website:

Javelin Trackdays Sprint Series said:
1 - Entry
1.1 - Drivers must have a full, valid driving licence.
1.2 - A Competition Licence is required for every entrant; this can be purchased on the day, £5 per event or £15 for the year.
1.3 - Entries will close at 17:00 on the Friday before each event. Entry after this time will not be permitted.
1.4 - Each event will cost £139 per entry until one week before entries close after which time the entry fee will increase to £159 per entry for the final week.

2 – Class Structure
Classes are kept intentionally simple so they are assigned on a 'best fit' basis rather than an extensive technical list.

Class
Class A Pro Modified Vehicles - Cars heavily modified for sprint, track, race and rally competition level.
Class B Specialist Vehicles - Lotus Seven & kit car style vehicles, single seaters, Radicals, etc.
Class C Modified Production Vehicles - Production vehicles that have been modified with performance upgrades, your average trackday car basically.
Class D Standard Production Vehicles - Standard road vehicles, cosmetic upgrades and a few minor performance enhancements are permitted.

Subclass
1 - Max Power, Turbo or 2000cc+ 4WD vehicles
2 – High Power, Turbo or 2000cc+ 2WD vehicles
3 – Medium Power, NA Vehicles between 1600cc – 2000cc or equivalent
4 – Low Power, Most vehicles under 1600cc

Javelin Trackdays decision on assigned class is final and all vehicles will be inspected at scrutineering to make sure they are assigned correctly. If you are unsure of which class applies to your vehicle then please call to confirm.

Subclasses are designed to be open to interpretation as the wide range of vehicles and possible modifications can create a huge range of potential performances from similar vehicles. We’ve provided some basic guidelines above and also in the form of the Class Guide (Link) to give you the impressions of what should be in each class.

Extra classes for single make & championship can be added, call Javelin to discuss.

3 - Trophies, Championship & Points
3.1 -Trophies will be presented to the fastest 3 drivers overall.
3.2 - If a class has 2 or more entries then the class winner will receive a trophy, if a class has 4 or more entrants then the runner up will also qualify for a trophy, if a class has 6 or more entrants then the 2nd runner up will receive a trophy.
3.3 - Championship points will be awarded with 100 Points for 1st, 99 for 2nd, 98 for 3rd, etc
3.4 - Event awards will be presented at the end of the individual event, championship awards will be presented at an end of season presentation at the final round. Trophies are only available to collect from the awards presentation, they will not be available after the event.
3.5 - Competitors may change their class and retain their points however all points will be applied to the highest class entered at any point of the series.
3.6 - Competitors are only eligible to score points in the vehicle they have registered for the day.
3.7 - Competitors entered into all 6 rounds will be awarded 30 bonus points at the end of the year.

4 - Vehicles
4.1 - Vehicles are not required to have an MOT but must be of at least an equal standard, safe and mechanically sound. Road tax is not required.
4.2 - All vehicles will be subject to scrutineering and should be fit for purpose. The driver is responsible for ensuring the car fully complies with the regulations – being passed by the scrutineer is not a guarantee that it is fault free – every detail cannot be checked every time.
4.3 - It is the drivers responsibility to ensure that the vehicle is both safe and mechanically sound both before and during the event.
4.4 - All competing vehicles will be provided with and will need a VSD (Vehicle Safety Declaration) which you will be required to sign before competing.
4.5 - Vehicles must have sufficient practical roll over protection where required.
a). Convertible and open top vehicles in all classes must have sufficient practical roll over protection in the form of roll hoops or a roll cage or be fitted with a hard top.
b). Class A&B Vehicles – Must be fitted with a roll cage or have suitable roll over and impact structures in place in the case of single seater & specialist production type vehicles.
c). Class C Vehicles – Must comply with 4.5a but in the case of closed roof vehicles the fitting of a roll cage is not required although it is recommended where suitable.
d). Class D Vehicles – Must comply with 4.5a.

5 - Tyres
5.1 - Class C & D - Tyres must be road legal and have a minimum of 1.6mm tread depth throughout the event. Tyres marked “competition use only” or “Not for highway use” are not permitted. Only E marked radial tyres will be allowed.
5.2 - Class A, B - Slick & competition tyres are permitted providing the vehicle is
a). Fitted with a roll cage or has suitable roll over and impact structures in place in the case of single seater type vehicles
b). Suspension and brake components have been sufficiently upgraded to handle the stress such tyres would put on the vehicle.
5.3 - Warming of tyres prior to the start of each run is not permitted.

6 - Noise
6.1 - Vehicles must pass and conform to the noise requirements set out below, vehicles failing these tests will be subject to exclusion from the event.
a). STATIC TEST – A maximum of 105dB at ¾ maximum revs measured 0.5m from the end of the exhaust pipe at an angle of 45 degrees. If we suspect that mechanical noise is giving a false reading then we will perform a test at 2m from the vehicle at 90 degrees from the centre.
b). DRIVEBY TEST - A maximum of 92dB at 20m trackside.
6.2 - Any vehicle persistently back firing will be excluded.
6.3 - Anti-Lag Systems are not permitted.
6.4 - Launch Control is permitted providing it is under the noise limit.

7 - In Car Cameras
7.1 - Video and photographic equipment is allowed in car, but the installation must be securely mechanically mounted and checked by an official.
7.2 - No handheld equipment is allowed.

8 - Results, Timing & Runs
8.1 - Results will be posted in a central location approximately 15 minutes after each run has been completed by all competitors.
8.2 - Results are final after 15 minutes, unless a protest is officially lodged with an event steward.
8.3 - Any competitor who deviates from the course by more than 2 wheels or as set out in the morning briefing will be awarded a void run and no time will be recorded
8.4 - Any competitor who hits any of the course equipment i.e. cones/blocks will be awarded a void run and no time will be recorded. Persistent offenders will be warned and may forfeit further runs if they continue to disrupt the event.
8.5 - Competitors that have been deemed to have been held up on track due to an incident or catching another competitor will be awarded a rerun, determining whether one is needed is solely down to the discretion of the organisers based on marshals reports.
8.6 - Competitors are required to participate in their runs in order, if a competitor does not take part in a run then that run if forfeit.
8.7 - Competitors will participate in 1 untimed practice run and then up to 8 timed runs (subject to course length, entry levels and any incidents on the day).
8.8 - If a run is not completed by all eligible competitors before 16:30 on the day due to an incident causing delay then the times for that run will not be counted for the purpose of results.
8.9 - Competitors are required to take part in each run in alphabetical class order unless otherwise instructed by the event organisers, it is the drivers responsibility to prepare for each run on time.
8.10 - Warming the tyres or brakes either inside or outside of the paddock is not permitted and anyone found to be doing so may forfeit runs.

9 - Safety Equipment
9.1 - All participants are required to have their arms and legs covered when in the vehicle, flameproof overalls are mandatory for single seater vehicles.
9.2 - Harnesses must be fitted according to the manufacturer’s instructions and must be in a good, safe condition.
9.3 - Helmets must be suitable for the activity and in a good, safe condition.
9.4 - Drivers of any open top vehicle are permitted to wear full face helmets only
9.5 - Only the driver is permitted in the vehicle during a run, passengers are only permitted during the sighting laps and only in the front seats.

General Notes
Groundsheets to be used for servicing vehicles
It is essential to work safely, especially when refuelling.
No Smoking whilst refuelling is taking place.
Petrol must be stored in suitably marked containers.
Oil spillages – must be cleaned up and we advise the use of drip trays.
The jacking up of vehicles must be carried out proficiently and axle stands should be used at all times.
Rubbish – must be placed in bins or taken home with you at the end of the day. We aim to leave the paddock in a better condition than when we arrived.
You must obey speed limits in pit areas usually 10mph.
No testing, wheel spinning, doughnuts, showing off etc in the pit area
Failure to adhere to the above may get you excluded from the event.


Javelin Trackdays reserves the right to amend or change these regulations as needed to ensure the fair running of the series.
Additionally regarding class based groupings:

Javelin Trackdays Sprint Series said:
Class Guide
Javelin Trackdays decision on assigned class is final and all vehicles will be inspected at scrutineering to make sure they are assigned correctly. Some vehicles will not be an obvious fit for any particular class so if you are unsure then please contact us to discuss it.

Subclasses are designed to be open to interpretation as the wide range of vehicles and possible modifications can create a huge range of potential performances from similar vehicles. It is intended that the majority of entrants will be in subclasses 2-3 with 1 & 4 providing an upper and lower limit on performance so that they are not unfairly competing with others or being forced to compete with much more powerful vehivles themselves. We’ve provided some basic guidelines below to give you the impressions of what we intend should be in each class.

Javelin Trackdays reserves the right to move entrants into a different class at will if we feel it is a better fit to the series
Class A Pro Modfied Vehicles - Cars heavily modified for sprint, track, race and rally competition.
Subclass
1 - Max Power, Turbo or 2000cc+ 4WD vehicles
2 – High Power, Turbo or 2000cc+ 2WD vehicles
3 – Medium Power, NA Vehicles between 1600cc – 2000cc
4 – Low Power, Most vehicles under 1600cc

Class B Specialist Vehicles - Lotus Seven & kit car style vehicles, single seaters, Radicals, etc.
Subclass
1 - Max Power, Radicals, Atoms & High Performance Aero type vehicles
2 – High Power, High performance vehicles, high capacity car or bike engined, minor aero
3 – Medium Power, The average Lotus Seven type vehicle or lower spec single seater
4 – Low Power, Generally vehicles with the smaller engines.

Class C Modified Production Vehicles - Production vehicles that have been modified with performance upgrades, your average trackday car basically.
Subclass
1 - Max Power, Turbo or 2000cc+ 4WD vehicles
2 – High Power, Turbo or 2000cc+ 2WD vehicles
3 – Medium Power, NA Vehicles between 1600cc – 2000cc
4 – Low Power, Most vehicles under 1600cc

Class D Standard Production Vehicles - Standard road vehicles, cosmetic upgrades and a few minor performance enhancements are permitted.
Subclass
1 - Max Power, Turbo or 2000cc+ 4WD vehicles, vehicles over 3200cc
2 – High Power, Turbo or 2000cc-3200cc 2WD vehicles
3 – Medium Power, NA Vehicles between 1600cc – 2000cc
4 – Low Power, Most vehicles under 1600cc
http://www.javelinsprintdays.co.uk/JTSS/

JoeMarano

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1,042 posts

100 months

Tuesday 18th October 2016
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I think a Saxo would fit in quite nicely smile

Just need to find a standard one.....uhm.

andymc

7,356 posts

207 months

Tuesday 18th October 2016
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JoeMarano said:
I've just looked into the Javelin Sprint series and am thinking of getting a standard saxo/clio etc to compete with in production class next year. Anyone here know anyone that's clued up with it?

Just chatting to an R32 GTR owner that was running around 400 bhp with ohlins suspension cup 2 tyres etc that I managed to keep behind me for a while on youtube.

Feels good knowing I had half the HP and standard everything lol

Edited by JoeMarano on Tuesday 18th October 15:59
really?? did he realise

JoeMarano

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1,042 posts

100 months

Tuesday 18th October 2016
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Yeah I just told him lol

I wasn't faster than him but I kept him and the Leon Cupra behind me for quite some time as soon as I saw them coming in the rear view while I was supposed to be on a cool down lap but wanted to see how fast the revo badged Cupra was (bd almost had me turn in on him as he followed a Caterham that I let through a corner)

HustleRussell

24,701 posts

160 months

Tuesday 18th October 2016
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JoeMarano said:
Yeah I just told him lol

I wasn't faster than him but I kept him and the Leon Cupra behind me for quite some time as soon as I saw them coming in the rear view while I was supposed to be on a cool down lap but wanted to see how fast the revo badged Cupra was (bd almost had me turn in on him as he followed a Caterham that I let through a corner)
So they caught up with you in clean air (faster than you then) and you decided to 'keep them behind you for quite some time'- and you're surprised they got impatient and forced the issue? Sounds like poor trackday etiquette at best.

JoeMarano

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1,042 posts

100 months

Tuesday 18th October 2016
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HustleRussell said:
So they caught up with you in clean air (faster than you then) and you decided to 'keep them behind you for quite some time'- and you're surprised they got impatient and forced the issue? Sounds like poor trackday etiquette at best.
Unfortunately I don't have the rear cam footage as proof. You'll just have to watch the video as. But I'm near the esses and I can see them coming down the straight so I postpone my cool down lap and see how fast they are. You can clearly hear me saying down the Senna straight that the Cupra isn't catching me.

Later on a Caterham wants to pass so I take a wide line so I can swing back tight and not lose too much momentum and let him. Then the Cupra takes this as an opportunity to get through too.

So no not bad etiquette at all. If anything the etiquette was bad from the faster cars there not the slower ones like mine. So many examples of me lifting and indicating from all my videos so sir, you are wrong!

The last few mins of this video is what you want

https://youtu.be/84pWcC_Z0kU



Edited by JoeMarano on Tuesday 18th October 16:59

C70R

17,596 posts

104 months

Tuesday 18th October 2016
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JoeMarano said:
Just chatting to an R32 GTR owner that was running around 400 bhp with ohlins suspension cup 2 tyres etc that I managed to keep behind me for a while on youtube.

Feels good knowing I had half the HP and standard everything lol
Cringe! paperbag

I'm actually coming around to thinking that this is excellent trolling to help drive views to your YT channel.