600bhp 1 Series
Discussion
ScoobyChris said:
rasto said:
Not true, I don't have electric seats and definitely do have the tilt feature.
Iirc either speccing folding mirrors or electrically adjustable seats installs the necessary module required for tilt.Chris
rasto said:
JakeT said:
Dimming door mirrors are handy. Also they lighten up again in reverse. The tilt down in reverse is only available when paired with electric seats, also.
Not true, I don't have electric seats and definitely do have the tilt feature.Great thread this. Have read it from start to finish as I’m looking for a nice M140i / M135i having just sold on my S3. I’ve found a lovely 2017 M140i in black but it’s got very few options on it; it’s got heated seats and tinted glass and that’s about it! It’s a manual, 7k miles, 11 months old from a main dealer. I think the main option I’d miss is the park sensors which it doesn’t have. I’m happy enough with a manual, I know it’s not the nicest manual box but I like the extra involvement.
I guess my question is, am I likely to regret getting such a low spec example when I come to sell in a few years? It’s significantly cheaper than one with more spec so I’m happy I’m not overpaying but I do wonder if the low spec will start to niggle away at me once the novelty of that engine wears off?!
I guess my question is, am I likely to regret getting such a low spec example when I come to sell in a few years? It’s significantly cheaper than one with more spec so I’m happy I’m not overpaying but I do wonder if the low spec will start to niggle away at me once the novelty of that engine wears off?!
Rear visibility isn't great on them, but it's good enough. Sensors and CC were part of the very cheap Comfort Pack and it's actually quite hard to find cars that don't have them.
Spec is quite mix and match. Some have almost no options, some are loaded up to the hilt. Most are a bit mix and match, but demand is quite high and I wouldn't get too hung up on the spec.
Spec is quite mix and match. Some have almost no options, some are loaded up to the hilt. Most are a bit mix and match, but demand is quite high and I wouldn't get too hung up on the spec.
ManOpener said:
Rear visibility isn't great on them, but it's good enough. Sensors and CC were part of the very cheap Comfort Pack and it's actually quite hard to find cars that don't have them.
Spec is quite mix and match. Some have almost no options, some are loaded up to the hilt. Most are a bit mix and match, but demand is quite high and I wouldn't get too hung up on the spec.
Yeah they vary quite a lot. The one I’ve found I can get for <22k with 7k miles and less than a year old so it’s a good price, I assume because of the low spec. Spec is quite mix and match. Some have almost no options, some are loaded up to the hilt. Most are a bit mix and match, but demand is quite high and I wouldn't get too hung up on the spec.
custardkid said:
I'l make sure it has the Lumber support option.
so many people forget to tick it on a BMW and then complain of back ache !
(heated seat, cruise control and adaptive suspension are also must haves in my book)
Agree on all counts. It might also be worth getting electric seats too, I didn't because I'm pretty much the only one who drives my car. However it went into the garage for some warranty work and they changed so the seat position so much that I've still not got it back to a fully comfortable setting. It's very difficult to get just the right seating position.so many people forget to tick it on a BMW and then complain of back ache !
(heated seat, cruise control and adaptive suspension are also must haves in my book)
custardkid said:
I'l make sure it has the Lumber support option.
so many people forget to tick it on a BMW and then complain of back ache !
(heated seat, cruise control and adaptive suspension are also must haves in my book)
Agree on the heated seats but I’ve had cruise on my last three cars and never used it! I just don’t do motorway miles. I’ve tried a few M135is so far, all of which had Adaptive and I’m not convinced it’s as important as people say, I could quite happily have left it in Sport all day every day.so many people forget to tick it on a BMW and then complain of back ache !
(heated seat, cruise control and adaptive suspension are also must haves in my book)
Basically I’ve got a max budget of £22k and I’d like to buy an AUC car if I can (I’m possibly naively assuming it’ll be a better quality/more thoroughly checked used buy) and for that money I can get a loaded M135i that’s a few years old or an almost new but low spec M140i. Current thinking is leaning towards the latter, rightly or wrongly.
I think rear sensors are essential but fronts not so much. I managed to live without after having 3 cars in a row with them fitted prior to my M135i. It didn't have Cruise either which I also didn't miss.
HK Audio, Pro Nav and Adaptive Suspension are the most desirable options along with the Auto 'box.
HK Audio, Pro Nav and Adaptive Suspension are the most desirable options along with the Auto 'box.
Edited by va1o on Sunday 18th February 20:26
va1o said:
I think rear sensors are essential but fronts not so much. I managed to live without after having 3 cars in a row with them fitted prior to my M135i. It didn't have Cruise either which I also didn't miss.
HK Audi, Pro Nav and Adaptive Suspension are the most desirable options along with the Auto 'box.
Yeah I’m not bothered about a fronts at all. Pro nav would be nice but not essential. HK Audi, Pro Nav and Adaptive Suspension are the most desirable options along with the Auto 'box.
ManOpener said:
I didn't think Adaptive was that we'll resolved in any of the mode. I actually prefer the standard suspension.
I test drove both and ordered adaptive. Until they improve the road quality, I need all the help I can get.The difference between Sport and comfort is very noticeable although from what had been said on babybmw, if you are planning on lots of track time then a modified passive system is probably a better option.
ManOpener said:
I didn't think Adaptive was that well resolved in any of the mode. I actually prefer the standard suspension. It is a desirable option though.
I have the use of a 3 series at work with adaptive and I’ve had the benefit of driving it pretty hard for many miles and for that model at least, id be inclined to agree with you! The 135is that I’ve driven have also felt much the same (albeit I’ve only had relatively brief test drives) so I suspect a standard setup with a different set of springs may make for a better vehicle point to point. OP
i'd probably wait a month or 2 for a car that comes up that you want - with the right spec and pay the extra £500, there are plenty out there
or phone all the dealers with cars you like, and ask how much they will do it for, February should be a relatively quiet month so some may be more flexible as the month draws to a close
i'd probably wait a month or 2 for a car that comes up that you want - with the right spec and pay the extra £500, there are plenty out there
or phone all the dealers with cars you like, and ask how much they will do it for, February should be a relatively quiet month so some may be more flexible as the month draws to a close
custardkid said:
OP
i'd probably wait a month or 2 for a car that comes up that you want - with the right spec and pay the extra £500, there are plenty out there
or phone all the dealers with cars you like, and ask how much they will do it for, February should be a relatively quiet month so some may be more flexible as the month draws to a close
Thanks. That’s probably exactly what I’ll do. The dealer I’ve spoken to was able to knock £550 which isn’t bad for a main dealer IME. i'd probably wait a month or 2 for a car that comes up that you want - with the right spec and pay the extra £500, there are plenty out there
or phone all the dealers with cars you like, and ask how much they will do it for, February should be a relatively quiet month so some may be more flexible as the month draws to a close
One of the things pushing me to get a car sooner is the fact that I’ve now sold on my S3 and I’m driving around in a 2005 Kia Picanto that I was given FOC and it’s terrible!! Still, I’m sure it’s more sensible to just be patient
Lovely looking M.
I've been following all your projects especially your P38.
Hopefully i'll get mine close to the standard yours was.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
I've been following all your projects especially your P38.
Hopefully i'll get mine close to the standard yours was.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
Well then, update time I guess. I'm nearing the 20,000 miles mark now, and the car has had an oil change that I carried out, and it's first official BMW Service.
It hasn't all been plain sailing, but that's no fault of the car.
First off, the recommended oil change interval is around 20,000 miles. For those who are simply leasing and returning that's probably fine, but it's still my intention to keep the car, so I chose to change the oil around the 10k mark myself. I bought OE sump plug washers from BMW, and oil from Opie, and up she went:
The procedure is nice and simple, there's a small access flap in the undertray for the sump plug, draining is easy as the oil is so thin. The top up procedure is a bit scary though
Basically, there is no physical dipstick on the engine, (thanks BMW) only a digital check, so when you've drained all the oil, you refill with 6.5L and then have to start the car up to check the oil level is correct, except the car has to be warm for the oil check to be available, so you have to wait for the oil to warm through as well. All was well though.
After this, I decided I hadn't wasted any cash on frivolous rubbish for at least a week, and bought some 'black gel' plates for the car.
Almost immediately, the car rewarded me with the dreaded backbox rattle that appears to be a common fault:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zob1v1WMnCA
I raised this with BMW UK, and ultimately everything was resolved to my satisfaction. I had to sign a non-disclosure agreement which prohibits me discussing exactly what they agreed to do to rectify the problem, which seemed a bit shady, however on the plus side....
One M Performance Exhaust system.
This is a throatier back box basically, which has no valve, and so can't rattle again. There are 2 choices of tailpipe trim, both of which are predictably horrendous. There are the chrome tips, which I opted for, or they also do a "carbon" tip which is basically the chrome tip, with a carbon fibre sleeve over it with a slight cut out so you can still see the //M logo on the tip. Ghastly on all counts really. I'll come back to this.
I did give it a proper wash and wax, and a chap I know who is better with picture things than I am took these:
Plenty of fodder for the terrible parking thread there. The chrome rear pipes stuck out like a sore thumb, and didn't really gel at all with the "under the radar" 116d badge, so around this time I pulled that off.
I then drove it lots more as I've just bought a house, so car times have been few and far between recently. Then as I was trundling along behind a wagon, a large rubber tile flew off the back and landed squarely on the edge of my bonnet, leaving it looking rather sorry for itself:
It turned out to be fairly superficial, and after some time with 3M's finest compounds, it's looking like this:
I then got round to de-chroming it. You unfortunately can't use the stock tailpipe trims on the M Performance back box as the tailpipe diameter is larger. They are however, exactly the same size in diameter as the 640d tailpipes, and the M Sport models come with some rather familiar looking trims...
As I'm still a massive child, I've also rebadged it again, this time as a 114i. I might grow up one day, but it wasn't this day.
Also, on a recent european jaunt, it walloped it's way up to this remarkably quickly and easily in 6th, with 2 gears to go. The limiter definitely works, it was like hitting a wall
So all in all, things with the M140i are still very very good. It always puts a daft grin on my face, and it's fantastic to drive. The exhaust now makes a deeper noise and burbles away very nicely, especially on the overrun or upshift. I'm still on my original set of tyres, but I'll need new rears before long as they're nearing the markers. Brakes still appear fine.
It hasn't all been plain sailing, but that's no fault of the car.
First off, the recommended oil change interval is around 20,000 miles. For those who are simply leasing and returning that's probably fine, but it's still my intention to keep the car, so I chose to change the oil around the 10k mark myself. I bought OE sump plug washers from BMW, and oil from Opie, and up she went:
The procedure is nice and simple, there's a small access flap in the undertray for the sump plug, draining is easy as the oil is so thin. The top up procedure is a bit scary though
Basically, there is no physical dipstick on the engine, (thanks BMW) only a digital check, so when you've drained all the oil, you refill with 6.5L and then have to start the car up to check the oil level is correct, except the car has to be warm for the oil check to be available, so you have to wait for the oil to warm through as well. All was well though.
After this, I decided I hadn't wasted any cash on frivolous rubbish for at least a week, and bought some 'black gel' plates for the car.
Almost immediately, the car rewarded me with the dreaded backbox rattle that appears to be a common fault:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zob1v1WMnCA
I raised this with BMW UK, and ultimately everything was resolved to my satisfaction. I had to sign a non-disclosure agreement which prohibits me discussing exactly what they agreed to do to rectify the problem, which seemed a bit shady, however on the plus side....
One M Performance Exhaust system.
This is a throatier back box basically, which has no valve, and so can't rattle again. There are 2 choices of tailpipe trim, both of which are predictably horrendous. There are the chrome tips, which I opted for, or they also do a "carbon" tip which is basically the chrome tip, with a carbon fibre sleeve over it with a slight cut out so you can still see the //M logo on the tip. Ghastly on all counts really. I'll come back to this.
I did give it a proper wash and wax, and a chap I know who is better with picture things than I am took these:
Plenty of fodder for the terrible parking thread there. The chrome rear pipes stuck out like a sore thumb, and didn't really gel at all with the "under the radar" 116d badge, so around this time I pulled that off.
I then drove it lots more as I've just bought a house, so car times have been few and far between recently. Then as I was trundling along behind a wagon, a large rubber tile flew off the back and landed squarely on the edge of my bonnet, leaving it looking rather sorry for itself:
It turned out to be fairly superficial, and after some time with 3M's finest compounds, it's looking like this:
I then got round to de-chroming it. You unfortunately can't use the stock tailpipe trims on the M Performance back box as the tailpipe diameter is larger. They are however, exactly the same size in diameter as the 640d tailpipes, and the M Sport models come with some rather familiar looking trims...
As I'm still a massive child, I've also rebadged it again, this time as a 114i. I might grow up one day, but it wasn't this day.
Also, on a recent european jaunt, it walloped it's way up to this remarkably quickly and easily in 6th, with 2 gears to go. The limiter definitely works, it was like hitting a wall
So all in all, things with the M140i are still very very good. It always puts a daft grin on my face, and it's fantastic to drive. The exhaust now makes a deeper noise and burbles away very nicely, especially on the overrun or upshift. I'm still on my original set of tyres, but I'll need new rears before long as they're nearing the markers. Brakes still appear fine.
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