600bhp 1 Series

[M1C]

Looks great. Spaces never dont help, do they!

Great stuff!

[D4MJT]

p1stonhead said:

Personally I will be buying one. I just need to make the numbers work. I do 20k a year so leasing is impossible.

Im waiting for Shadow Editions (or fully optioned examples) to hit say £20k.

I do 20k a year too, and I’m on a 20k PCP.

I’ll fire you some numbers if you want buddy

[p1stonhead]

D4MJT said:

p1stonhead said:

Personally I will be buying one. I just need to make the numbers work. I do 20k a year so leasing is impossible.

Im waiting for Shadow Editions (or fully optioned examples) to hit say £20k.

I do 20k a year too, and I’m on a 20k PCP.

I’ll fire you some numbers if you want buddy

Nice one. Ive always found numbers on such to be ludicrous at 20k but if some people are doing it there must be some deals out there.

To be honest I havent looked overly hard yet. Problem with my wants too is that I have a 3 series now with all the toys and quite stupidly (for getting value for money) I want all of the same in the 140.....

[Henry_b]

Looks cool with da stance!!

Oh and With her being new there's no rusty nuts to worry about!!


Whats next on ya Modz list?

[bitchstewie]

Should be picking mine up mid-week

Anything I really need to know other than common sense stuff like letting it warm up and not pushing it too hard for the first couple of thousand miles?

I know, RTFM but I don't have it yet

[Scobblelotcher]

bhstewie said:

Should be picking mine up mid-week

Anything I really need to know other than common sense stuff like letting it warm up and not pushing it too hard for the first couple of thousand miles?

I know, RTFM but I don't have it yet

You could learn about all the modes especially if it’s an auto.

See here: http://www.babybmw.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=71296

[rasto]

Scobblelotcher said:

bhstewie said:

Should be picking mine up mid-week

Anything I really need to know other than common sense stuff like letting it warm up and not pushing it too hard for the first couple of thousand miles?

I know, RTFM but I don't have it yet

You could learn about all the modes especially if it’s an auto.

See here: http://www.babybmw.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=71296

This. Also, re: warming up - the guage on the dash shows a combined water & oil temperature, I tend to wait for mine to reach just under the half way mark before 'having fun'. Sport+, on dry roads only, is insane fun

[bitchstewie]

rasto said:

This. Also, re: warming up - the guage on the dash shows a combined water & oil temperature, I tend to wait for mine to reach just under the half way mark before 'having fun'. Sport+, on dry roads only, is insane fun

Thank you both, that graphic of all the "modes" is fking insane

What sort of time does it usually take to get up to temperature? The daily commute is around 20 miles mostly A roads but I don't tend to rag it.

[D4MJT]

bhstewie said:

Should be picking mine up mid-week

Anything I really need to know other than common sense stuff like letting it warm up and not pushing it too hard for the first couple of thousand miles?

I know, RTFM but I don't have it yet

There's a world of differing opinions to be honest.

The official line from BMW is that the engine should be ran in for 1200 miles during which period you ideally keep it under 4,500rpm and avoid full hard acceleration.

The majority of the internet and some BMW salesmen seem to advise ignoring this and saying that it's pointless.

I personally chose to follow the 1200 mile run-in. My car has been brilliant and uses no oil at all, however that's not to say it wouldn't have been exactly the same if I'd thrashed it from day one, people have on the owners group and state theirs are also fine.

Eco-Pro really dampens down the throttle response, and allows the gearbox to be disengaged and the car to coast, which helps with the fuel economy.

Sport gives you a far more aggressive throttle map on the pedal, and retains traction control to keep things generally pointing the right way.

Sport+ allows a degree of silliness. I find this is still very easy to catch and allows you to get some fairly decent slip but still makes it fairly easy to pull back into line, however be aware that it will allow you to get the car far more sideways and the Traction Control is less intrusive, although still present.

If you hold the "Traction" button you eventually get DSC OFF and full silliness, should you wish.

What spec did you end up going for? I bet you can't wait to collect it, trust me you'll love it.

[D4MJT]

On the subject of the Eibach springs and spacers I've fitted...

I've had a few days to drive the car now and I've started to get a few more miles in and a bit of a feel for the new setup.

Whilst it's good overall, these are my thoughts. I paid significantly less than retail for the springs and spacers, due to them being fitted to a friends car, him deciding to trade in less than 4 weeks later, and me removing them and refitting his standard parts as part of the deal. If I'd paid the £440 retail for the parts, I think I'd be considering whether or not it would be worth spending more for a set of coilovers, or at least some dampers.

The car doesn't feel massively different driving around normally, it definitely doesn't feel as if it's silly low, there is far less evident body roll on roundabouts, or longer curved slip roads etc where you can pick up speed. It's also firmer than it was, however this now does a good job of highlighting that the standard dampers are on the soft side, at 80mph or thereabouts, it can feel a little bouncy on uneven roads / uneven motorway stretches.

On reflection, it's a good kit, it looks the part, and the vast majority of the time it's an improvement over the standard setup. For the money you can't really complain, however the more you press on, the more imperfections are exposed and it starts to feel less together than a decent set of coilovers would do.

That said, it's also a lot cheaper than KW's for instance. I think down the line I may look at the Birds springs and damper combo, depending on how I get on with it over the summer.

[ScoobyChris]

bhstewie said:

Should be picking mine up mid-week

Anything I really need to know other than common sense stuff like letting it warm up and not pushing it too hard for the first couple of thousand miles?

I know, RTFM but I don't have it yet

You can get the BMW driver’s guide app if you have the VIN if you want to read the manual... you’ll also want to order a vgate2 and your favourite coding app so you can code in some options

Chris

[bitchstewie]

D4MJT said:

There's a world of differing opinions to be honest.

The official line from BMW is that the engine should be ran in for 1200 miles during which period you ideally keep it under 4,500rpm and avoid full hard acceleration.

The majority of the internet and some BMW salesmen seem to advise ignoring this and saying that it's pointless.

I personally chose to follow the 1200 mile run-in. My car has been brilliant and uses no oil at all, however that's not to say it wouldn't have been exactly the same if I'd thrashed it from day one, people have on the owners group and state theirs are also fine.

Eco-Pro really dampens down the throttle response, and allows the gearbox to be disengaged and the car to coast, which helps with the fuel economy.

Sport gives you a far more aggressive throttle map on the pedal, and retains traction control to keep things generally pointing the right way.

Sport+ allows a degree of silliness. I find this is still very easy to catch and allows you to get some fairly decent slip but still makes it fairly easy to pull back into line, however be aware that it will allow you to get the car far more sideways and the Traction Control is less intrusive, although still present.

If you hold the "Traction" button you eventually get DSC OFF and full silliness, should you wish.

What spec did you end up going for? I bet you can't wait to collect it, trust me you'll love it.

Honestly I'd be surprised if I ever push it even close to its capabilities.

Spec I went for was:

3 door shadow auto
719M alloys
Media pack - Professional
Speed limit display
Adaptive M Sports suspension
Heated front seats
Front and rear park sensors
Folding mirrors (believe you need this to get dimming mirrors)

If there is run in details in the manual I'll follow it. When I had my Boxster it never used a drop of oil and as you say whilst you'll never be sure, the manual is there for a reason and is presumably written by the people who know the product best.

[rasto]

bhstewie said:

Thank you both, that graphic of all the "modes" is fking insane

What sort of time does it usually take to get up to temperature? The daily commute is around 20 miles mostly A roads but I don't tend to rag it.

Depends on the weather, with the cold mornings it has usually only just warmed up by the time I get to work which is a journey of about 20 minutes in 30/40 limit roads. In the warmer weather it's much quicker, around 5 minutes.

I tend to leave mine in Sport mode most of the time unless it is icy/slippery. Eco mode was good when icy as it cuts so much power.

[D4MJT]

bhstewie said:

Spec I went for was:

3 door shadow auto
719M alloys
Media pack - Professional
Speed limit display
Adaptive M Sports suspension
Heated front seats
Front and rear park sensors
Folding mirrors (believe you need this to get dimming mirrors)

The media pack is an excellent choice imo, the larger widescreen lifts the interior nicely, similarly the heated seats are excellent, I use mine all the time.

I somehow managed to forget to spec folding mirrors which annoys me everytime I lock the car

[p1stonhead]

D4MJT said:

bhstewie said:

Spec I went for was:

3 door shadow auto
719M alloys
Media pack - Professional
Speed limit display
Adaptive M Sports suspension
Heated front seats
Front and rear park sensors
Folding mirrors (believe you need this to get dimming mirrors)

The media pack is an excellent choice imo, the larger widescreen lifts the interior nicely, similarly the heated seats are excellent, I use mine all the time.

I somehow managed to forget to spec folding mirrors which annoys me everytime I lock the car

I can’t believe the amount of cars I have seen on my brief search that only have the small screen. It’s just wrong on a top of the range car. Loads don’t even have navigation on the small screen. Who can buy a 140i but not go for the bigger screen?!

And as a side note, if it’s anything like the 3 series, the mirrors don’t auto fold and unfold when locking! It’s annoying! I believe you can code them to do it though.

Edited by p1stonhead on Sunday 25th March 10:15

[ScoobyChris]

p1stonhead said:

D4MJT said:

bhstewie said:

Spec I went for was:

3 door shadow auto
719M alloys
Media pack - Professional
Speed limit display
Adaptive M Sports suspension
Heated front seats
Front and rear park sensors
Folding mirrors (believe you need this to get dimming mirrors)

The media pack is an excellent choice imo, the larger widescreen lifts the interior nicely, similarly the heated seats are excellent, I use mine all the time.

I somehow managed to forget to spec folding mirrors which annoys me everytime I lock the car

I can’t believe the amount of cars I have seen on my brief search that only have the small screen. It’s just wrong on a top of the range car. Loads don’t even have navigation on the small screen. Who can buy a 140i but not go for the bigger screen?!

And as a side note, if it’s anything like the 3 series, the mirrors don’t auto fold and unfold when locking! It’s annoying! I believe you can code them to do it though.

Edited by p1stonhead on Sunday 25th March 10:15

I couldn’t justify spending more on the big screen as it didn’t really add anything for me and the standard one is decent resolution and nav was standard anyway. I also didn’t spec the HK either as it really didn’t sound much better over standard for the additional cost.

You can code the mirrors to fold and/or unfold by reducing the standard delay time on the keyfob button press. One of first changes I made!

Chris

[D4MJT]

ScoobyChris said:

You can code the mirrors to fold and/or unfold by reducing the standard delay time on the keyfob button press. One of first changes I made!

You can if you're not a massive numpty who forgot to spec them in the first place

[Scobblelotcher]

ScoobyChris said:

p1stonhead said:

D4MJT said:

bhstewie said:

Spec I went for was:

3 door shadow auto
719M alloys
Media pack - Professional
Speed limit display
Adaptive M Sports suspension
Heated front seats
Front and rear park sensors
Folding mirrors (believe you need this to get dimming mirrors)

The media pack is an excellent choice imo, the larger widescreen lifts the interior nicely, similarly the heated seats are excellent, I use mine all the time.

I somehow managed to forget to spec folding mirrors which annoys me everytime I lock the car

I can’t believe the amount of cars I have seen on my brief search that only have the small screen. It’s just wrong on a top of the range car. Loads don’t even have navigation on the small screen. Who can buy a 140i but not go for the bigger screen?!

And as a side note, if it’s anything like the 3 series, the mirrors don’t auto fold and unfold when locking! It’s annoying! I believe you can code them to do it though.

Edited by p1stonhead on Sunday 25th March 10:15

I couldn’t justify spending more on the big screen as it didn’t really add anything for me and the standard one is decent resolution and nav was standard anyway. I also didn’t spec the HK either as it really didn’t sound much better over standard for the additional cost.

You can code the mirrors to fold and/or unfold by reducing the standard delay time on the keyfob button press. One of first changes I made!

Chris

My car also has the smaller screen but with HK. I’ve used both and it makes absolutely no difference in my opinion.

I didn’t think you could buy a M140 without nav?

[bitchstewie]

D4MJT said:

The media pack is an excellent choice imo, the larger widescreen lifts the interior nicely, similarly the heated seats are excellent, I use mine all the time.

I somehow managed to forget to spec folding mirrors which annoys me everytime I lock the car

Don't get me wrong, it annoys me massively what car makers charge for nav but given the prominence of the media system in the car I just figured that over 4 years it's a bit of a no-brainer compared to some of the other options.

Plus I think it's touchscreen on the new models so make a bit more sense to have the biggest screen possible.

[D4MJT]

Scobblelotcher said:

My car also has the smaller screen but with HK. I’ve used both and it makes absolutely no difference in my opinion.

I didn’t think you could buy a M140 without nav?

I don't "think" you can now.

I think re the nav it's horses for courses really. Some people will inevitably buy these cars as a cheap way to get a lot of performance, and won't do anything like the miles I cover, being more worried about how the car drives and performs over creature comforts.

For me personally, the larger screen and better resolution is nice for the navigation and maps, and the different aspect ratio of the screen allows for more information, I can have media information on the right and split the screen with the nav, it allows video playback, basically I'm a massive soft arse. The performance aspect is lovely and I enjoy driving the car on a weekend, but sadly I haven't covered 20k in 10 months of wonderful country roads and mountain passes, I've spent most of it sat in traffic in a heated seat, arsing around with the entertainment system