1994 UMM 4x4 Alter II Phase 3 2.5D

1994 UMM 4x4 Alter II Phase 3 2.5D

Author
Discussion

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
quotequote all
UMM.... what comes from Portugal? Port wine, of course. Salt cod, stylish football, Camoes, Primrose Revolutions, a seven hundred year alliance with the UK, Sagres beer, Fado singing. Also ... UMMS.

French engineer Monsieur Cournil adapted the Willy's Jeeps that the US Army abandoned in France after WW2. The jeeps had been pressed into service by French farmers. M Cournil made a French 4x4, the Cournil, using French mainstream car mechanicals and a body of his own devising. The car was OK, but M. Cournil still went bust in the mid 70s.

UMM - Union Metalica Mecanico- a Portuguese metal working outfit - bought the car from the Receivers, devised an UMM transfer box to go along with Peugeot 505 diesel engines and five speed gearboxes, bought axles in from GKN in the UK, and welded 2mm steel body panels to 4mm steel chassis members. Interior - French parts bin, including a Renault 4 heater sat on the engine, which lives mostly in the cab. Suspended on leaf springs with Volvo 740 brakes, and available with a NA 2.5 diesel (75 BHP ish - sloooow), or a 2.5 turbo diesel (110 BHP ish - reasonable), the UMM became a big hit with Portuguese farmers, with the Portuguese army, and with regular and guerrilla forces in Portuguese Africa, where it makes a good technical or a squad carrier. It also aced the Paris-Dakar, and frequently beat leaf and coil Landies in 4x4 contests.

I bought this UMM last week from a very pleasant banger racer and off roader guy in Harlow, Essex. He wanted £1000 and refused to accept more, throwing in five Suzuki Vitara alloys with road tyres. We sealed the deal with a pint and a chat.

This one is a LWB version that has been cut down by a fair chunk at the back. The rear end, and the rear lights (round and not square, with mega bright reverser and rear fog)), are non standard. Ex breakdown recovery truck, perhaps? Airfield fire tender? Probably not, as the UMM was mid-dark blue until recently. Orange is a very UMM, colour. Civilian UMMs are often orange. Military ones are dark green, and may have .50 cals or AA weapons on the back.

This big heavy pick up truck drives like a big heavy pick up truck. It is sloooooow. This one has no turbo, so you really have to work the gears and maintain momentum to drive A roads at 50-60. It does not like hills very much. On the motorway it will eventually wind up to 70 and a tiny tad more, and can elephant race its way past big lorries. NOISE. The power steering is over assisted, but that is good for parking. The UMM wanders a bit, but not as much as a Landy does. Noisy as Hell. Good views out all around, three cool dangly wipers (very effective), good heating and ventilation. Roomy cabin, comfortable tweed covered seats. Selectable 4WD, hi-lo ratios. Freewheeling front hubs. NOISY. Also, did I mention the noise? I am sorry, I can't hear you.

I was missing the very good 1976 SWB petrol Landy that I stupidly sold last year. I miss the Landy no longer!














Shaw Tarse

31,543 posts

203 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
quotequote all
Looks sad

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
quotequote all
Here is the UMM next to the 1981 Austin-Morris Sherpa Autosleeper that I picked up for Festival duty the other week (two litre O Series petrol, single SU, four speed non overdrive manual, discs front , drums rear, pop up roof, sleeps four) . That might merit its own thread, if I CBA.

Also some UMM brochure shots and press blurb.









anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
quotequote all
Shaw Tarse said:
Looks sad
Looks sad, is happy.

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

137 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
quotequote all
that needs a winch on the front bumper for winching yummy mummys out of ditches during the winter school run.

and just cos everyone needs a winch (but not orange beacons and walty rescue stickers)

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
quotequote all
Here's the UMM showing a yummy mum truck what's what at the station car park. Also hanging out with a Series 2a, and proving that the transfer box works.






anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
quotequote all
Shonky heater, fancy levers.


MarshPhantom

9,658 posts

137 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
quotequote all
Very nice, always thought they looked great.

samoht

5,715 posts

146 months

Monday 22nd May 2017
quotequote all

Thanks, interesting to hear the story and see how the set-back engine contributes to the, er, distinctive bonnet line.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
quotequote all
That sloped bonnet is great for aiming the heap when off road. The pic below shows how little engine there is in the engine bay. The cabin contains a fair bit of engine heat. Noise, too!

The radiator etc are covered in mud - the previous owner had taken the UMM swimming.

Rust? Some apparent at the rear corners. Otherwise not too bad. The MoT runs until October.



Usget

5,426 posts

211 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
quotequote all
Took me a while to clock the M-plate, I assumed it must have been from the mid-1970s!

Definitely a curio. I'm glad it exists, I'm glad you're having fun with it, but very much Do Not Want!

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

100 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
quotequote all
A holiday that I had in Spain about 12 years ago we were in an villa type complex. I am fairly certain that this is what the maintenance manager was driving around in, but I never knew what it was at the time.

Whatever it was, it sounded rather unpleasant and smelt even worse, can't imagine it was in the best state of repair.

Definitely a good tick in the "rare and a bit quirky" box

RussH91

363 posts

160 months

Tuesday 23rd May 2017
quotequote all
It pains me to admit, that dad has two of these parked up in a shed. Looking and feeling rather sorry for themselves. Have many memories of rallying them across the fields on the farm.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
quotequote all
There is a small but enthusiastic UK UMM World, so if your dad wants to sell his UMMs, he could probably do so via an advert on one of the UMM Facebook Groups. If they are too knackered to revive, but one of them has a turbo engine, please let me know as I would buy that engine and also other spares.

Re: the M plate etc - UMMs look seventies (being based on the sixties/seventies Cournil), and the early ones have very basic interiors, like sixties vans and tractors, but the later ones have more car-like eighties style interiors.






RussH91

363 posts

160 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
quotequote all
Just had a look on the Facebook and Umm World, seems to be a lot more information now then there was 10+ years ago when they were being used daily.
Regarding engines, I know one had been boiled and the other had hydrauliced. They are both turbo's though.

brrapp

3,701 posts

162 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
quotequote all
I remember working on a government owned farm in the early eighties. They had an earlier model UMM which had the 2.1 Peugeot diesel out of the old 504 pickup. It was very basic but super tough, far better than the series Landrovers we ran alongside it although it couldn't match the extreme offroad stuff that we got up to in the Landrovers. I think I'll have a look on that UMM site, I'm sure I could find a use for one of these nowadays.

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
quotequote all
RussH91 said:
Just had a look on the Facebook and Umm World, seems to be a lot more information now then there was 10+ years ago when they were being used daily.
Regarding engines, I know one had been boiled and the other had hydrauliced. They are both turbo's though.
I might buy one or both engines if the car are breakers. I shall send you a PM.


Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 24th May 09:07

anonymous-user

Original Poster:

54 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
quotequote all
brrapp said:
I remember working on a government owned farm in the early eighties. They had an earlier model UMM which had the 2.1 Peugeot diesel out of the old 504 pickup. It was very basic but super tough, far better than the series Landrovers we ran alongside it although it couldn't match the extreme offroad stuff that we got up to in the Landrovers. I think I'll have a look on that UMM site, I'm sure I could find a use for one of these nowadays.
There are one or two UMMs for sale on eBay at present IIRC. Much cheaper than Landies.

The early ones (Transcats) are said to be mega crude. The later ones (Alters) are hardly refined, but have a bit more in the way of creature comforts.

brrapp

3,701 posts

162 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
quotequote all
Breadvan72 said:
brrapp said:
I remember working on a government owned farm in the early eighties. They had an earlier model UMM which had the 2.1 Peugeot diesel out of the old 504 pickup. It was very basic but super tough, far better than the series Landrovers we ran alongside it although it couldn't match the extreme offroad stuff that we got up to in the Landrovers. I think I'll have a look on that UMM site, I'm sure I could find a use for one of these nowadays.
There are one or two UMMs for sale on eBay at present IIRC. Much cheaper than Landies.

The early ones (Transcats) are said to be mega crude. The later ones (Alters) are hardly refined, but have a bit more in the way of creature comforts.
Have you been out and about in yours much yet? I seem to remember that the best thing about the UMM was it's economy, far superior to the (petrol) landrovers. We filled it once a week from the farm red diesel tank while the landrovers doing the same work needed a visit to the local petrol station every day or two. It gave you an extra half hour in bed if you could get hold of the UMM key the night before.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Wednesday 24th May 2017
quotequote all
Bloody gorgeous. The village garage just down the road from my parents (Derbyshire) sold them in the late '80s, early '90s.