1994 UMM 4x4 Alter II Phase 3 2.5D

[RC1807]

I take my hat off to you, sir.... you are bonkers!
You knew the 75 hp model was slow, and you bought one. Bravo!

[anonymous-user]

The purchase was a bit of a whim. I have other cars that go fast. This is a truck, for short range trips. I would still, however, havea turbo engine put into the UMM it if this could be done at a reasonable cost.

[anonymous-user]

brrapp said:

Have you been out and about in yours much yet? I seem to remember that the best thing about the UMM was it's economy, far superior to the (petrol) landrovers. We filled it once a week from the farm red diesel tank while the landrovers doing the same work needed a visit to the local petrol station every day or two. It gave you an extra half hour in bed if you could get hold of the UMM key the night before.

I have been out and about a bit, and off road once. I have not done a careful check of consumption yet, but think that I might be getting about 30 MPG. The truck is very heavy. The relatively smooth Series Land Rover petrol engine (a 50s Rover engine with heavy pistons and a long stroke) is, I think, a good engine, and when I had a Landy MPG was not a big deal as I used it only for short journeys.

I hate diesel as a fuel (and have done so for years, long before the recent diesel hoo hah started). I might consider a Peugeot V6 petrol engine for the UMM, but only if that could be done sensibly. I do not know if the V6 would fit.

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 24th May 23:34

[anonymous-user]

My kid brother has gone full Portuguese hill billy -

[MarshPhantom]

They are very cool, saw a few knocking around Lisbon when we were there a couple of years ago. Hardly surprising as that was where they were built.

[williamp]

interesting. Quality-wise, where is it on the BL scale?? Up there with the Sd1, S2 XJ6 etc or down there with the Allegro et al??

[anonymous-user]

The quality seems good so far. Solid, decent interior (for a truck), everything seems chunky and quite well screwed together. The engines and gearboxes are said to be long lived.

I love Landies. This is better than a Landy.

[darkyoung1000]

Excellent, always nice to find another car you didn't know existed.... It looks like a vehicle that is comfortable in a range of applications, but could be extremely uncomfortable out of them!

Presumably, given the nature of the engine, it will run quite happily on waste vegetable oil if you decide to stick with diesel?

Cheers,
Tom

[anonymous-user]

I must research the veg option.

This UMM is a bummer to start if you leave the lights on and flatten the battery, as I did. A great big booster pack, fully charged, and still a faff to get going.

[anonymous-user]

Brakes still dire, BTW. I have been too busy to do anything about them.

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 13th June 08:18

[jamiebae]

It looks like fun, in a masochistic kind of way. Surely given the relatively basic engineering it's not going to be a huge job to drop any old-ish engine in there? Bell housing adaptor and you're away, as soon as you've got hold of a simple enough RWD donor (rotten E36 318i, Merc C200 from the late 90s or similar)? I guess a decent Peugeot V6 is hard to find unless you mean the later DOHC 200BHP version.

[gforceg]

Or it could be enjoyed for what it is.

The good thing about dire brakes is that they prevent you trying to enjoy the "performance" too much.

I learned this driving my father's 1300 Gt Junior. Goes nicely. Nooooooo brakes.

[anonymous-user]

I once drove an Alfa GT Junior 1300 that had brakes. Possibly the best car that I have ever driven.

I agree that keeping the UMM as it is would probably be the best idea. It is a slow truck that can go through mud and over knobbly bits. I have other cars that can go fast.

[anonymous-user]

What is orange, comes from Portugal, and makes you happy?

[Usget]

Breadvan72 said:

What is orange, comes from Portugal, and makes you happy?

Christiano Ronaldo? He's scored some absolute pearlers in his time.

[anonymous-user]

... is the correct answer, but if you're watching Portuguese footie in a Portuguese cafe on the South Lambeth Road you should be glugging Vinho Verde, if not Sagres.

[toobusy]

We used to have one, bought from a local dealer and sold after about 5 or 6 years. Used for holidays, travelled round the Picos in Spain in it, round Ireland etc. Never missed a beat, decent mpg and fairly comfortable - much better than Landys I had. Gear lever was "quirky"....
Have considered getting another one, or an earlier one. I had a reference list of the Peugeot parts to help keep the costs down.

[anonymous-user]

Loss of storage facilities dictates a fleet reduction, alas. Anyone wanna buy an UMM?

[RC1807]

"umm, no."

[anonymous-user]

Ummm, OK.