Discussion
RC1807 said:
OP: handling must be fun with 300 gee-gees!
My standard ST will always light up the traction control lights when it's booted, and it's standard.
Having had an S-Max 2.5T with 365bhp, I gave up funding the local tyre places a few years ago
Now that'd a dad-mobile we can approve of!My standard ST will always light up the traction control lights when it's booted, and it's standard.
Having had an S-Max 2.5T with 365bhp, I gave up funding the local tyre places a few years ago
The stock car was great quick and not too harsh TBH .
All late 2015 reg cars came with the ST 200 suspension so are less harsh and handle better .
All late 2015 reg cars came with the ST 200 suspension so are less harsh and handle better .
Otispunkmeyer said:
f
k sake
My "new car" list has gone round and round the houses these past few weeks....
ST was originally on it, because why not. But then I thought its perhaps a bit too focused on the B-road blasting to be used for other duties like touring europe. So then that moved on to a 208GTi which from reading is nicer inside, nicer to cruise in, not quite so nice to drive. Then I decided these things bit too run of the mill.... cue looking at RCZs, and 595 Turismos. Then I catch wind of coking problems on DI petrol engines so swung back to some older school metal, Focus ST MK2 and Volvo C30 T5. All the while I secretly would like an MX-5 but I am too tall for it to be a comfortable daily prospect.... and then I come in here and see a lovely blue ST and I am back to square one again.
This is why my current car is 11 years old. I cannot bloody decide!
Awesome car by the way OP. Bet that is a complete riot with 300 ponies!
Can someone just tell me what these things are like, stock on normal roads.... is it as harsh and bouncy as all the reviews make out? I have driven one, though it was only a short drive and on decent roads. You don't really get time to notice harsh ride when your first port of call is seeing how fast it goes hahaha.
k sakeMy "new car" list has gone round and round the houses these past few weeks....
ST was originally on it, because why not. But then I thought its perhaps a bit too focused on the B-road blasting to be used for other duties like touring europe. So then that moved on to a 208GTi which from reading is nicer inside, nicer to cruise in, not quite so nice to drive. Then I decided these things bit too run of the mill.... cue looking at RCZs, and 595 Turismos. Then I catch wind of coking problems on DI petrol engines so swung back to some older school metal, Focus ST MK2 and Volvo C30 T5. All the while I secretly would like an MX-5 but I am too tall for it to be a comfortable daily prospect.... and then I come in here and see a lovely blue ST and I am back to square one again.
This is why my current car is 11 years old. I cannot bloody decide!
Awesome car by the way OP. Bet that is a complete riot with 300 ponies!
Can someone just tell me what these things are like, stock on normal roads.... is it as harsh and bouncy as all the reviews make out? I have driven one, though it was only a short drive and on decent roads. You don't really get time to notice harsh ride when your first port of call is seeing how fast it goes hahaha.
Edited by Otispunkmeyer on Thursday 8th June 14:58
kaveney said:
The stock car was great quick and not too harsh TBH .
All late 2015 reg cars came with the ST 200 suspension so are less harsh and handle better .
Ahhh thanks for that little bit of info. I was looking for 2015 on because I wanted something newish still. So 65 plates on?All late 2015 reg cars came with the ST 200 suspension so are less harsh and handle better .
Otispunkmeyer said:
fk sake
My "new car" list has gone round and round the houses these past few weeks....
ST was originally on it, because why not. But then I thought its perhaps a bit too focused on the B-road blasting to be used for other duties like touring europe. So then that moved on to a 208GTi which from reading is nicer inside, nicer to cruise in, not quite so nice to drive. Then I decided these things bit too run of the mill.... cue looking at RCZs, and 595 Turismos. Then I catch wind of coking problems on DI petrol engines so swung back to some older school metal, Focus ST MK2 and Volvo C30 T5. All the while I secretly would like an MX-5 but I am too tall for it to be a comfortable daily prospect.... and then I come in here and see a lovely blue ST and I am back to square one again.
This is why my current car is 11 years old. I cannot bloody decide!
Awesome car by the way OP. Bet that is a complete riot with 300 ponies!
Can someone just tell me what these things are like, stock on normal roads.... is it as harsh and bouncy as all the reviews make out? I have driven one, though it was only a short drive and on decent roads. You don't really get time to notice harsh ride when your first port of call is seeing how fast it goes hahaha.
k sakeMy "new car" list has gone round and round the houses these past few weeks....
ST was originally on it, because why not. But then I thought its perhaps a bit too focused on the B-road blasting to be used for other duties like touring europe. So then that moved on to a 208GTi which from reading is nicer inside, nicer to cruise in, not quite so nice to drive. Then I decided these things bit too run of the mill.... cue looking at RCZs, and 595 Turismos. Then I catch wind of coking problems on DI petrol engines so swung back to some older school metal, Focus ST MK2 and Volvo C30 T5. All the while I secretly would like an MX-5 but I am too tall for it to be a comfortable daily prospect.... and then I come in here and see a lovely blue ST and I am back to square one again.
This is why my current car is 11 years old. I cannot bloody decide!
Awesome car by the way OP. Bet that is a complete riot with 300 ponies!
Can someone just tell me what these things are like, stock on normal roads.... is it as harsh and bouncy as all the reviews make out? I have driven one, though it was only a short drive and on decent roads. You don't really get time to notice harsh ride when your first port of call is seeing how fast it goes hahaha.
Edited by Otispunkmeyer on Thursday 8th June 14:58
If you get a 16 plate or newer (might even be 65 plate I can't remember) they have the revised suspension settings from the ST200 which is supposed to improve the ride slightly. I don't have an issue with mine, but haven't compared it to an older one to see if there's any noticeable difference.
Yes late 2015 September I think
"Apparently It seems there was some concern that the back of the ST was too aggressive, so Ford has stiffened the rear torsion beam by 27%, fitted a thicker front anti-roll bar (21mm instead of 19mm), and recalibrated the steering to match.
These alterations then allowed the engineers to reduce the spring and damper rate by using new front springs and dampers and new rear dampers (using the same springs) making the ST softer, and better able to deal with sudden bumps and camber changes."
Apparently, as Ford couldnt justify the expense of sending two different chassis setups down the production line, it started to put the suspension changes onto the standard ST last year (apparently from 13/8/15) without telling anyone, as it didnt want to ruin the ST200 surprise. The shorter final drive is unique to the ST200, though.
"Apparently It seems there was some concern that the back of the ST was too aggressive, so Ford has stiffened the rear torsion beam by 27%, fitted a thicker front anti-roll bar (21mm instead of 19mm), and recalibrated the steering to match.
These alterations then allowed the engineers to reduce the spring and damper rate by using new front springs and dampers and new rear dampers (using the same springs) making the ST softer, and better able to deal with sudden bumps and camber changes."
Apparently, as Ford couldnt justify the expense of sending two different chassis setups down the production line, it started to put the suspension changes onto the standard ST last year (apparently from 13/8/15) without telling anyone, as it didnt want to ruin the ST200 surprise. The shorter final drive is unique to the ST200, though.
Otispunkmeyer said:
Ahhh thanks for that little bit of info. I was looking for 2015 on because I wanted something newish still. So 65 plates on?
Otispunkmeyer said:
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Can someone just tell me what these things are like, stock on normal roads.... is it as harsh and bouncy as all the reviews make out? I have driven one, though it was only a short drive and on decent roads. You don't really get time to notice harsh ride when your first port of call is seeing how fast it goes hahaha.
I don't find my 3y.o harsh or crashy on the suspension, and I do have some long drives (Lux to Le Mans is ~600km (6hours), Lux to "home" in the UK is ~750km (8 hours) ). Can someone just tell me what these things are like, stock on normal roads.... is it as harsh and bouncy as all the reviews make out? I have driven one, though it was only a short drive and on decent roads. You don't really get time to notice harsh ride when your first port of call is seeing how fast it goes hahaha.
I have got it on 3 wheels on more than one occasion during a spirited drive....
Small update I received my Mountune oil cap today .
From Mountune this is £ 65.00 but I got one new off a forum member for £ 25.00 .
I have a few more bits to get before it is finished that include a Mountune short shifter , Mountune brake lines , and a Quaife ATB LSD that will be later this year .
From Mountune this is £ 65.00 but I got one new off a forum member for £ 25.00 .
I have a few more bits to get before it is finished that include a Mountune short shifter , Mountune brake lines , and a Quaife ATB LSD that will be later this year .
Otispunkmeyer said:
fk sake
My "new car" list has gone round and round the houses these past few weeks....
ST was originally on it, because why not. But then I thought its perhaps a bit too focused on the B-road blasting to be used for other duties like touring europe. So then that moved on to a 208GTi which from reading is nicer inside, nicer to cruise in, not quite so nice to drive. Then I decided these things bit too run of the mill.... cue looking at RCZs, and 595 Turismos. Then I catch wind of coking problems on DI petrol engines so swung back to some older school metal, Focus ST MK2 and Volvo C30 T5. All the while I secretly would like an MX-5 but I am too tall for it to be a comfortable daily prospect.... and then I come in here and see a lovely blue ST and I am back to square one again.
This is why my current car is 11 years old. I cannot bloody decide!
Awesome car by the way OP. Bet that is a complete riot with 300 ponies!
Can someone just tell me what these things are like, stock on normal roads.... is it as harsh and bouncy as all the reviews make out? I have driven one, though it was only a short drive and on decent roads. You don't really get time to notice harsh ride when your first port of call is seeing how fast it goes hahaha.
its a hard choice!k sakeMy "new car" list has gone round and round the houses these past few weeks....
ST was originally on it, because why not. But then I thought its perhaps a bit too focused on the B-road blasting to be used for other duties like touring europe. So then that moved on to a 208GTi which from reading is nicer inside, nicer to cruise in, not quite so nice to drive. Then I decided these things bit too run of the mill.... cue looking at RCZs, and 595 Turismos. Then I catch wind of coking problems on DI petrol engines so swung back to some older school metal, Focus ST MK2 and Volvo C30 T5. All the while I secretly would like an MX-5 but I am too tall for it to be a comfortable daily prospect.... and then I come in here and see a lovely blue ST and I am back to square one again.
This is why my current car is 11 years old. I cannot bloody decide!
Awesome car by the way OP. Bet that is a complete riot with 300 ponies!
Can someone just tell me what these things are like, stock on normal roads.... is it as harsh and bouncy as all the reviews make out? I have driven one, though it was only a short drive and on decent roads. You don't really get time to notice harsh ride when your first port of call is seeing how fast it goes hahaha.
Edited by Otispunkmeyer on Thursday 8th June 14:58
Look at the 308 GTI 270 if you want to be different, RCZ's are a good car but you wont want a 156, so either a 200 or R (R's are going for Fiesta ST money and on the rise so....) where as 308 GTI's can be had for a bit of a bargain as the face lifted model is out shortly and dealers will want rid of stock
Damn you photobucket! 
Symposer delete, I went for Boomba Racing's version - because I could get it cheaper in the U.S (I'm in Illinois near where Boomba are based 4 or 5 times/year) and it imporved the inside feeling hugely!
How tricky or easy was the shortshifter to fit? Noticeable difference?
Symposer delete, I went for Boomba Racing's version - because I could get it cheaper in the U.S (I'm in Illinois near where Boomba are based 4 or 5 times/year) and it imporved the inside feeling hugely!
How tricky or easy was the shortshifter to fit? Noticeable difference?
Tight and fiddley to install the Mountune unit is 
Shift feels amazing now and is one of the best things I have done to the car .
Shift feels amazing now and is one of the best things I have done to the car .
RC1807 said:
Damn you photobucket!
Symposer delete, I went for Boomba Racing's version - because I could get it cheaper in the U.S (I'm in Illinois near where Boomba are based 4 or 5 times/year) and it imporved the inside feeling hugely!
How tricky or easy was the shortshifter to fit? Noticeable difference?
Symposer delete, I went for Boomba Racing's version - because I could get it cheaper in the U.S (I'm in Illinois near where Boomba are based 4 or 5 times/year) and it imporved the inside feeling hugely!
How tricky or easy was the shortshifter to fit? Noticeable difference?
At the weekend I installed my Mountune braided brake line kit along with some other parts .
First up was to check the rear brake pin sliders as I have read that that they can cause uneven were on the rear discs if they are not moving correctly .
The NSR were ok but I re greased anyway but the OSR were dry as a bone and looks like they never had any grease in them from new as my car is only a year old .
WP_20170708_14_04_05_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
WP_20170708_14_03_57_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
All re greased up and sliding well again
WP_20170708_14_06_00_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
Then I installed the front and rear Mountune braided brake lines
WP_20170708_12_52_14_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
WP_20170708_12_52_20_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
WP_20170708_14_35_39_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
WP_20170708_14_35_43_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
Then to finish off a flush of the brake fluid and change to Motul RBF 600 brake fluid
WP_20170527_11_37_52_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
First up was to check the rear brake pin sliders as I have read that that they can cause uneven were on the rear discs if they are not moving correctly .
The NSR were ok but I re greased anyway but the OSR were dry as a bone and looks like they never had any grease in them from new as my car is only a year old .
WP_20170708_14_04_05_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on FlickrWP_20170708_14_03_57_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on FlickrAll re greased up and sliding well again
WP_20170708_14_06_00_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on FlickrThen I installed the front and rear Mountune braided brake lines
WP_20170708_12_52_14_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on FlickrWP_20170708_12_52_20_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on FlickrWP_20170708_14_35_39_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on FlickrWP_20170708_14_35_43_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on FlickrThen to finish off a flush of the brake fluid and change to Motul RBF 600 brake fluid
WP_20170527_11_37_52_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on FlickrI gave the car a wash at the weekend and took the car for a good long drive and its reminded me just how good this little thing is now .
The one and last thing it will need will be the LSD as this will make the car perfect and will allow all of the extra power to be deployed all of the time .
WP_20171015_17_54_43_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
WP_20171015_17_00_09_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
WP_20171015_17_00_00_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
The one and last thing it will need will be the LSD as this will make the car perfect and will allow all of the extra power to be deployed all of the time .
WP_20171015_17_54_43_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on FlickrWP_20171015_17_00_09_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on FlickrWP_20171015_17_00_00_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on FlickrI took my car along to Surry rolling road for a Cliosport day on Saturday and put my Fiesta ST with the Collins CP4X on the rollers .
A few pics of the car on the rollers .
WP_20171021_10_57_13_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
WP_20171021_10_58_53_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
And the print outs .
269 BHP
269 LB/FT
WP_20171022_12_09_29_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
WP_20171022_12_09_48_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
There was a good mix of cars and it was a great day .
Some pics of the other cars on the day and what each car made .
WP_20171021_13_37_33_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
WP_20171021_13_36_55_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
WP_20171021_13_26_54_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
WP_20171021_13_14_53_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
WP_20171021_13_04_10_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
WP_20171021_12_53_10_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
WP_20171021_12_37_45_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
WP_20171021_12_20_57_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
WP_20171021_12_12_44_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
WP_20171021_11_59_19_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
WP_20171021_11_55_47_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
WP_20171021_11_40_10_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
WP_20171021_11_30_54_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on Flickr
A few pics of the car on the rollers .
WP_20171021_10_57_13_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on FlickrWP_20171021_10_58_53_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on FlickrAnd the print outs .
269 BHP
269 LB/FT
WP_20171022_12_09_29_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on FlickrWP_20171022_12_09_48_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on FlickrThere was a good mix of cars and it was a great day .
Some pics of the other cars on the day and what each car made .
WP_20171021_13_37_33_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on FlickrWP_20171021_13_36_55_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on FlickrWP_20171021_13_26_54_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on FlickrWP_20171021_13_14_53_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on FlickrWP_20171021_13_04_10_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on FlickrWP_20171021_12_53_10_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on FlickrWP_20171021_12_37_45_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on FlickrWP_20171021_12_20_57_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on FlickrWP_20171021_12_12_44_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on FlickrWP_20171021_11_59_19_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on FlickrWP_20171021_11_55_47_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on FlickrWP_20171021_11_40_10_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on FlickrWP_20171021_11_30_54_Pro[1] by Alan Kaveney, on FlickrOver the Christmas holidays I managed to get a few more things done on the car and do some service work .
The car has just come up to 12000 miles .
First up was to clean the ITG air filter as it has not been cleaned in over a year .
Old dirty looking filter
Clean and oiled ready to go back in
Then a quick engine flush and an oil and filter change
I replaced the spark plugs for new ones
With this little lot done I started on installing some new bits on the car
First up was a Mountune Roll restrictor
New vs old
Then I set about changing the boost pipes for some Mishimoto large boar ones .
The Hot side pip is a one part unit so less chance of boost leeks and is much larger at 2.5 inch
The cold side is again larger at 2.5 inch
Installed
I wrapped the cross over pipe with heat reflect tape as this sits just over the turbo and does heat soak and gets warm to the touch .
Then on to the last job fitting the Boomba inlet manifold and throttle body spacers .
With the Inlet manifold off this was a good chance to have a look at the valves .
The car has done 12000 miles and they have a fair bit of gunk on them so I gave them a clean ( I have done this on my old 208 GTI so have a few techniques for this )
12000 miles of build up
Much cleaner
It’s by no means perfect but much cleaner than they were and not bad with just some simple tools .
Inlet manifold spacer installed with some extra sealant on the ports just to be on the safe side .
Throttle body spacer installed
Everything installed and put back together .
The car has just come up to 12000 miles .
First up was to clean the ITG air filter as it has not been cleaned in over a year .
Old dirty looking filter
Clean and oiled ready to go back in
Then a quick engine flush and an oil and filter change
I replaced the spark plugs for new ones
With this little lot done I started on installing some new bits on the car
First up was a Mountune Roll restrictor
New vs old
Then I set about changing the boost pipes for some Mishimoto large boar ones .
The Hot side pip is a one part unit so less chance of boost leeks and is much larger at 2.5 inch
The cold side is again larger at 2.5 inch
Installed
I wrapped the cross over pipe with heat reflect tape as this sits just over the turbo and does heat soak and gets warm to the touch .
Then on to the last job fitting the Boomba inlet manifold and throttle body spacers .
With the Inlet manifold off this was a good chance to have a look at the valves .
The car has done 12000 miles and they have a fair bit of gunk on them so I gave them a clean ( I have done this on my old 208 GTI so have a few techniques for this )
12000 miles of build up
Much cleaner
It’s by no means perfect but much cleaner than they were and not bad with just some simple tools .
Inlet manifold spacer installed with some extra sealant on the ports just to be on the safe side .
Throttle body spacer installed
Everything installed and put back together .
Any difference with the spacers?
I do like the qulaity of Boomba stuff. I must pay a visit to them next time In in Illinois; I'm about 30mi away from them 4 or 5 times/year!
Just noticed you questioned me last July about the shortshifter fitting, but I think it was in error. I used Boomba's symposer delete. I'm not brave enough to do ANYTHING that needs spannering, so no shortshifter on my ST.
I do like the qulaity of Boomba stuff. I must pay a visit to them next time In in Illinois; I'm about 30mi away from them 4 or 5 times/year!
Just noticed you questioned me last July about the shortshifter fitting, but I think it was in error. I used Boomba's symposer delete. I'm not brave enough to do ANYTHING that needs spannering, so no shortshifter on my ST.
I have not taken if for a long dive yet but I will update with the findings .
The Mountune short shifter was one of the best things I have done to the car .
The Mountune short shifter was one of the best things I have done to the car .
RC1807 said:
Any difference with the spacers?
I do like the qulaity of Boomba stuff. I must pay a visit to them next time In in Illinois; I'm about 30mi away from them 4 or 5 times/year!
Just noticed you questioned me last July about the shortshifter fitting, but I think it was in error. I used Boomba's symposer delete. I'm not brave enough to do ANYTHING that needs spannering, so no shortshifter on my ST.
I do like the qulaity of Boomba stuff. I must pay a visit to them next time In in Illinois; I'm about 30mi away from them 4 or 5 times/year!
Just noticed you questioned me last July about the shortshifter fitting, but I think it was in error. I used Boomba's symposer delete. I'm not brave enough to do ANYTHING that needs spannering, so no shortshifter on my ST.
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